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    Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

    Quote Originally Posted by 3leftsdoo View Post
    I think I misread your post.
    All good, it happens.

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    Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

    Here's my rules, and they haven't changed over the decades. Protest public figures when they are in the business of doing their public work. Don't heckle in a restaurant, or a baseball game or on their way to visit their dying aunt, or at their dentist or in front of their home. This goes for Mitch McConnell, or Cuomo, or Sarah Huckibee Sanders, or Dan Cathey, or Colin Kaepernick. Protest in front of their office, in front of their business ( ceo), or when they are making a public appearance themselves in an official capacity. We need good competent people to serve in politically sensitive and controversial posts, and we need them to be willing to take lower pay than they might otherwise and we need them to be able to sell the idea to their wives, parents and kids! Its not supposed to be hell 24/7 for everyone they come near for 4 years!

    Never try to impede their ability to communicate with their audience with repetitious and obnoxious heckling because their audience came to hear their ideas not yours, they took their time, drove to the destination and bought tickets , and they deserve access to what and who they did all that work to listen to, just like any consumer who deserves to get the product advertised and promoted, not your substitute! I want to hear my speaker express his ideas, so I intend to respect other speakers as they express theirs.

    If the idea behind what you are doing is to harass them to force them out of their jobs, its a bad idea. That is what you mean to do if you don't respect personal boundaries. If your idea is to express opposition to a stance of theirs in an official capacity, then target their official conduct.
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    Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    This is an interesting op ed.

    Don't heckle people in their private lives, not even Chris Cuomo

    Basically the author makes the point that we should ignore the fact that the left does not condemn public harassment of people on the right, but that we should be the bigger people by giving cumo a pass.

    I dont think i agree that Cumo should get a pass. I dont think the double standard will end that way. I think tje right should treat this exactly as the left treat its when the roles are reversed, with extreme indifference and offerimgs of free speech defenses.

    Why should cumo or anyone ne free of the consequences of the things they encourage.

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    The right murders people, so which side is doing the heckling definitely makes a difference.

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    Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

    Quote Originally Posted by btthegreat View Post
    Here's my rules, and they haven't changed over the decades. Protest public figures when they are in the business of doing their public work. Don't heckle in a restaurant, or a baseball game or on their way to visit their dying aunt, or at their dentist or in front of their home. This goes for Mitch McConnell, or Cuomo, or Sarah Huckibee Sanders, or Dan Cathey, or Colin Kaepernick. Protest in front of their office, in front of their business ( ceo), or when they are making a public appearance themselves in an official capacity. We need good competent people to serve in politically sensitive and controversial posts, and we need them to be willing to take lower pay than they might otherwise and we need them to be able to sell the idea to their wives, parents and kids! Its not supposed to be hell 24/7 for everyone they come near for 4 years!

    Never try to impede their ability to communicate with their audience with repetitious and obnoxious heckling because their audience came to hear their ideas not yours, they took their time, drove to the destination and bought tickets , and they deserve access to what and who they did all that work to listen to, just like any consumer who deserves to get the product advertised and promoted, not your substitute! I want to hear my speaker express his ideas, so I intend to respect other speakers as they express theirs.

    If the idea behind what you are doing is to harass them to force them out of their jobs, its a bad idea. That is what you mean to do if you don't respect personal boundaries. If your idea is to express opposition to a stance of theirs in an official capacity, then target their official conduct.
    I think it pretty much depends.

    Being a public figure comes with certain baggage and responsibility.

    Literal heckling of, say, a musician or actors in a play is generally unacceptable.

    But if a punk show, or a one-man show mounted by a rapist extolling the virtues thereof?

    I say heckle away.

    Throw stuff even.

    As to politicians, they need WAY more heckled.

    WAY more.

    But the primary image connoted by heckling is comedians, AKA G*d's lowest creation. (Though jugglers, poets and mimes certainly give them a run for their money.)

    I'd rather hear a >good comedian< heckled by a drunken idiot than be subjected to the torture of them doing a 20 minute bit about airline peanuts uninterrupted.

    Remember Daniel Tosh?

    He was heckled during a rape-joke routine, and responded by suggesting the heckler - a woman - should be gang-raped; that this would be funny.

    There was value in this, because anyone who didn't know what a disgusting sociopath Tosh was before he was heckled sure as Hell knew afterward.

    Louis CK rushed to Tosh's defense. (Then later lied and said he didn't.)

    That raised some red flags with me, so when we learned what old Louis had been up to himself, no surprise.

    So heckling can be cool.

    But again, it pretty much depends.

    When Bush II passes away, would I be upset if his funeral were heckled with cries of "War criminal!" or some such?

    I would not.

    It depends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Sure. When will you do it?
    Right after the left does

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Is that a call for violence? I thought you were considering taking the high road?
    Is this an admission that the lefts behavior is violent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    I think the Left excels and some things where those on the Right are still lacking. When it comes to their violent rhetoric, targeting, doxxing, harassing, and generally following the marching order of Maxine Waters, I don't want any part of that. However, I do think the Right can follow their lead when it comes to being on the same page and having a unified voice to drive the narrative. We also need to be more grass roots to engage voters and be those "community organizers".
    Wadr, i disagree with you. The left is playing a dangerous game right now. They keep ratching up the tension and claim its nonviolent 1st amendment rights. There comes a time to put an end to it. Turning the other cheek isnt working.

    Remember what obama said after he was elected
    "They bring a knife, we bring a gun"
    When thats the mentality you're up against, you have to punch back. They need to feel the pain they are inflicting on others.

    Why do you think they hate Trump so much. Its because he punches back. He calls them all the same nasty things that they call him. They dont like being treated how they treat others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by btthegreat View Post
    Here's my rules, and they haven't changed over the decades. Protest public figures when they are in the business of doing their public work. Don't heckle in a restaurant, or a baseball game or on their way to visit their dying aunt, or at their dentist or in front of their home. This goes for Mitch McConnell, or Cuomo, or Sarah Huckibee Sanders, or Dan Cathey, or Colin Kaepernick. Protest in front of their office, in front of their business ( ceo), or when they are making a public appearance themselves in an official capacity. We need good competent people to serve in politically sensitive and controversial posts, and we need them to be willing to take lower pay than they might otherwise and we need them to be able to sell the idea to their wives, parents and kids! Its not supposed to be hell 24/7 for everyone they come near for 4 years!

    Never try to impede their ability to communicate with their audience with repetitious and obnoxious heckling because their audience came to hear their ideas not yours, they took their time, drove to the destination and bought tickets , and they deserve access to what and who they did all that work to listen to, just like any consumer who deserves to get the product advertised and promoted, not your substitute! I want to hear my speaker express his ideas, so I intend to respect other speakers as they express theirs.

    If the idea behind what you are doing is to harass them to force them out of their jobs, its a bad idea. That is what you mean to do if you don't respect personal boundaries. If your idea is to express opposition to a stance of theirs in an official capacity, then target their official conduct.
    I liked your post because i agree with you but when ine side does not respect that rule on a large scale it becomes time for another rule
    Do unto others as they do unto you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The right murders people, so which side is doing the heckling definitely makes a difference.
    If thats what you wsnt to hang your hat on to justify the lefts antics, be my guest. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences

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    Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If thats what you wsnt to hang your hat on to justify the lefts antics, be my guest. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences

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    The consequences of what?

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