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Part of Epstein autopsy released

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The leaked autopsy indicated broken bones in neck more consistent with homicide rather than suicide. So who got to him, the Clintons or some one in the Washington swamp I wonder what that killing cost?
 
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Conspiracy Theories is a few floors down.
 
Logical1 said:
The leaked autopsy indicated broken bones in neck more consistent with homicide rather than suicide. So who got to him, the Clintons or some one in the Washington swamp that got to him. I wonder what that killing cost?
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...but also possible that it's still suicide. More info needs to come out before any conclusions are jumped to.
 
How could it be suicide when his clothes and sheets were made out of weak paper?
 
Logical1 said:
The leaked autopsy indicated broken bones in neck more consistent with homicide rather than suicide. So who got to him, the Clintons or some one in the Washington swamp I wonder what that killing cost?
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Logical1 said:
How could it be suicide when his clothes and sheets were made out of weak paper?
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Lots of posts from you that never seem to have links or proof. Why is that? Are you too embarrassed to provide your sources or something?
 
Logical1 said:
The leaked autopsy indicated broken bones in neck more consistent with homicide rather than suicide. So who got to him, the Clintons or some one in the Washington swamp I wonder what that killing cost?
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And, where did you get the information that a broken bone in the neck is more consistent with homicide than suicide? Please show your source.
 
Logical1 said:
The leaked autopsy indicated broken bones in neck more consistent with homicide rather than suicide. So who got to him, the Clintons or some one in the Washington swamp I wonder what that killing cost?
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It was Trump, he didn't want his dealings with Epstein to come to light.
 
Logical1 said:
How could it be suicide when his clothes and sheets were made out of weak paper?
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I don't know that those are actual facts. Even if they are, that also doesn't automatically mean it's a suicide. We aren't privy to the details of the case so there's no reason to immediately jump to conclusions about things we don't know.
 
Logical1 said:
The leaked autopsy indicated broken bones in neck more consistent with homicide rather than suicide. So who got to him, the Clintons or some one in the Washington swamp I wonder what that killing cost?
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Colonel Mustard, in the cell with his kung-fu neck breaking technique. Estimated assassination fee: lifetime supply of Trump Ties.
 
poweRob said:
Lots of posts from you that never seem to have links or proof. Why is that? Are you too embarrassed to provide your sources or something?
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Are you questioning the O' Wise One? Blasphemy!
 
Logical1 said:
The leaked autopsy indicated broken bones in neck more consistent with homicide rather than suicide. So who got to him, the Clintons or some one in the Washington swamp I wonder what that killing cost?
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Since Barr is in charge, one would think it's not the Clintons. One might guess...you know.
 
Logical1 said:
The leaked autopsy indicated broken bones in neck more consistent with homicide rather than suicide. So who got to him, the Clintons or some one in the Washington swamp I wonder what that killing cost?
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Hmmm That's not what I read this morning...

An autopsy performed on Jeffrey Epstein showed he "sustained multiple breaks in his neck bones," the Washington Post reported Wednesday.

People familiar with the autopsy report told the newspaper the bones broken in Epstein's neck included the hyoid bone, which is near the Adam's apple.

This sort of break can happen when a person hangs themselves or dies by strangulation, forensics experts told the Post.
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Jeffrey Epstein autopsy finds broken bones in his neck: report - CNN
 
Ikari said:
It was Trump, he didn't want his dealings with Epstein to come to light.
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Trump banning Epstein from Mar-a-lago for being a creeper is already public knowledge
 
Airyaman said:
Since Barr is in charge, one would think it's not the Clintons. One might guess...you know.
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And Barr's father had connections into Epstein too you know.
 
poweRob said:
There's a reason he never posts links to back up what he's saying. I'm just trying to find out where he's getting his infowarmation from.
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;) haha

I put the o/p wording into a search browser and this was the first source that matched....

An autopsy following the “apparent suicide” of Jeffrey Epstein revealed that the convicted sex offender and disgraced financier had broken bones in his neck at the time of his death. That includes the hyoid bone, which when broken is more consistent with victims of strangulation than hangings, the Washington Post reports.
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Cause of death is pending...

Jeffrey Epstein Autopsy Finds Broken Bones in Neck – Rolling Stone
 
Logical1 said:
How could it be suicide when his clothes and sheets were made out of weak paper?
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No they were not.
He was not on suicide watch at the time. he had regular sheets and bedding.
 
Logician Man said:
That's because 'cause' of death and 'manner' of death are two very different things. If you don't know the difference, google again for edification.
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Prove I don't know the difference....

This should be fun to watch you do.

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trixare4kids said:
;) haha

I put the o/p wording into a search browser and this was the first source that matched....



Cause of death is pending...

Jeffrey Epstein Autopsy Finds Broken Bones in Neck – Rolling Stone
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OF course, then what is being avoided is

While the broken hyoid bone is more common in strangulations than hangings, it doesn’t prove truth to claims by conspiracy theorists (like the president) that Epstein was somehow murdered behind bars.

The Washington Post noted that middle-aged men were more likely to break the hyoid bone during suicide by hanging — one in four men, a study found — than younger men who hanged themselves. Because the hyoid bone, located near the Adam’s apple, hardens with age, it makes it more susceptible to fracture in the event of a hanging. Epstein’s weight and method of hanging likely also played a part in the hyoid bone breaking.
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RAMOSS said:
OF course, then what is being avoided is
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You'll get no argument from me.

I'm waiting for the investigation to be completed, after viewing all the information.
 
An autopsy found that financier Jeffrey Epstein suffered multiple breaks in his neck bones, according to two people familiar with the findings, deepening the mystery about the circumstances around his death.

Among the bones broken in Epstein’s neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adam’s apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older, according to forensics experts and studies on the subject. But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation, the experts said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...63ace636af08_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1


This omits the most important piece of information: how much more common?

"more common" can be 50.1% vs. 49.9%....or 80/20, etc. They mention some studies but it doesn't sound like they paid attention to age/weight/method of hanging/etc



RAMOSS said:
OF course, then what is being avoided is
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This sounds like it's about the same study:

A handful of studies conducted over the past decade have produced conflicting results about the likelihood of a hyoid break in a suicide. In a study of 20 suicidal hangings in Thailand, published in 2010, one-fourth of the men who hanged themselves had broken hyoids. In a larger study of suicidal hangings of young adults and middle-aged people in India, conducted from 2010 to 2013, hyoid damage was found in just 16 of 264 cases, or 6 percent. The study addressed the discrepancies in academic reviews, saying wide variations in findings of hyoid breaks are “possibly due to factors like age of the victim, weight of the victim, type of suspension and height of suspension.”

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Of course....a sample size of 20 renders it pretty much meaningless.
 
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