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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    Lmao. In your hubris you completely ignore jill Stein, who completely accounts for the difference in my state, pa, between trump and hrc.

    Like I said we can do this all day. But I also told you we need to move beyond this. If we dont were ****ed. So drop it. You need to get the **** over it.
    Don't tell me, tell the butthurt Bernie supporters who will say he got cheated again. I will vote for ANYONE who the Democrats nominate. That should be what all the candidates are saying.
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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    Listen, at some point, the HRC backers need to get the **** over it and back the candidate who excites the base. Hrc cant excite a teen boy on prom night.
    The only Donk candidate who excites the base isn't running.
    Bernie or Bang / Go Vote for Yang / Tulsi - Just Dang!

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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3leftsdoo View Post
    Luckily, the voting for Trump thing is just a Hillbot fantasy.

    But Hillary was a monster long before her disgusting use of super PACs - I'll concede that.

    The data shows that Bernie supporters who voted for Trump made the difference in the 3 Blue states that gave Trump the electoral college win. Sorry but that is a fact. They were targeted by the Russian trolls and fell for it hook line and sinker. We need voters with convictions not personality whores.
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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Who got 3 million more votes than Trump but where she needed votes most it was Bernie supporters that let her down. They betrayed Bernie and their convictions to do it too. I have no patience for them.
    Complete nonsense.
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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3leftsdoo View Post
    The only Donk candidate who excites the base isn't running.
    Who may that be? And please dont say michelle obama. Or aoc.
    #BDS

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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    There is no one better on policy than Bernie. Warren is probably next.
    Bernie's strength is as a demagogue, riling people up and reminding folks who to be mad at. When it starts getting into policy details he loses steam pretty quickly.

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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    Bernie's strength is as a demagogue, riling people up and reminding folks who to be mad at. When it starts getting into policy details he loses steam pretty quickly.
    In your notably erroneous and unsupported opinion. How's your boy Delaney doing? Or are you still sold on the candidate who is rapidly losing his sense of temporal awareness and making racist gaffes?


    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The data shows that Bernie supporters who voted for Trump made the difference in the 3 Blue states that gave Trump the electoral college win. Sorry but that is a fact. They were targeted by the Russian trolls and fell for it hook line and sinker. We need voters with convictions not personality whores.
    It should be noted that a solid majority of defecting Bernie voters (about 60%) had tenuous or no ties to the Democratic party in the first place, and either had a very weak Democratic lean (around 5%) were independents or had a republican lean (the remaining 55%). Another 35% or so had a middling or weak Democrat lean. That means a mere 10% were people who could be said to have betrayed their convictions, and even then they probably did it on the basis of disgust with the corrupt political process and want of an outsider (though IMO, there are few picks worse than Trump to demonstrate such displeasure with).

    Of those that did not vote at all, less than 40% had a strong Democrat lean.
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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3leftsdoo View Post
    Some good points.

    Except for the fickle/lazy stuff.
    Young voters have yet to establish the habit of voting. There is a lot that seems to be of higher priority than showing up and casting that ballot. The correlation between generation/ age and actual turnout to the polls is well established and the percentage of 18-25 that either register or cast ballots is consistently lower than any other age group and most any other demographic.. Candidates that are depending on them to put them over the top, better have a plan B.

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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Hochbaum View Post
    Bernie and Busters make up about 8% of the total democratic voter base, according to 538.

    Does anyone else feel this way about these rabid Bernie fans?

    "Why do I continually plead with Bernie or Busters to vote for other progressive candidates if they win the primary? There are many reasons:

    Migrant children dying, concentration camps, racism, xenophobia, possible nuclear war, worsening climate change, worsening air quality, LGBTQ rights, supreme court nominations, deregulation and outright defunding of many necessary federal agencies/programs, increased partisan divisiveness, increased hate crimes on minorities, lack of accountability in the government, cozying up to rogue nations lead by brutal dictators, destruction of relationships with allies, destruction of peace agreements and treaties. This list can likely go on and on, and will likely be edited in the future as more is uncovered."

    I like Bernie but Iím not a fan of the Bernie or Busters. | Heretical Druthers
    Kamala then Warren for me. Bernie is not even on the list. Biden would be about four notches below Liz. I like the Castro Twin the best of the men. Buttigieg above Joe. Beto falls somewhere between the women and him.
    Donald Trump is a stupid man's idea of a smart man, a poor man's idea of a rich man and a weak man's idea of a strong man. --Meme of the Year nominee

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    Re: I am voting for Bernie but can't stand some of Bernies supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Over more than a few of us dead bodies.
    Less strong an opposition that much of the country has to Republicans. Communism isn't the threat to America, plutocrats are.

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