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    Re: Victims of Epstein upset???

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    You must understand victim mentality in terms of sexual assault and rape, you would be hard pressed to find any sexual assault victim given his circumstances who would want him dead, in jail yes but dead no. Seriously when we think sticking a penis in someone against their will should equal death then we have fallen to soviet style punishment mentality.

    In a democracy like we have justice should be served and the punishment should fit the crime, not go leaps and bounds ahead of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    The problem is though people like you are assuming what victims feel and not letting victims speak for themselves. Even then rape is not equal to death, and finding death fitting is overkill for the crime.

    You donít know a rape victim.
    if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.

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    Re: Victims of Epstein upset???

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    You must understand victim mentality in terms of sexual assault and rape, you would be hard pressed to find any sexual assault victim given his circumstances who would want him dead, in jail yes but dead no. Seriously when we think sticking a penis in someone against their will should equal death then we have fallen to soviet style punishment mentality.

    In a democracy like we have justice should be served and the punishment should fit the crime, not go leaps and bounds ahead of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    Whoa there. A victim of rape has a "victim mentality"? It isn't just "oh, there was a penis in me that I didn't like." It's dehumanizing in a way that being beaten to a pulp isn't. Unless we dive into morbid torture scenarios, it's one of the worse things that can be done to a person, and it isn't the kind of thing people get over.
    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    The problem is though people like you are assuming what victims feel and not letting victims speak for themselves.
    What the hell is that supposed to mean?

    Seriously, think about what you just said. You attack rape victims by saying they suffer from a "victim mentality." I point out that that's ****ed. And your response is to.....

    ....to tell me that I'm the one making assumptions and not letting people speak for themselves? I'm basing that on what victims of rape have said, which I have read, over the course of my life. I honestly am baffled by what your motive in this might be.




    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    Even then rape is not equal to death, and finding death fitting is overkill for the crime.
    Where did I say that rape is equal to death?

    My response has nothing to do with that part of your post, which you aimed at plutonium not Mr. Person, when he spouted off about how wanting to see your attacker dead is just dandy.

    My response is about how ****ed it is to start going on about victims of rape having a "victim mentality".



    I repeat: that's ****ed up. I wondered if maybe I misunderstood you but I guess not.

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    Re: Victims of Epstein upset???

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    What the hell is that supposed to mean?

    Seriously, think about what you just said. You attack rape victims by saying they suffer from a "victim mentality." I point out that that's ****ed. And your response is to.....

    ....to tell me that I'm the one making assumptions and not letting people speak for themselves? I'm basing that on what victims of rape have said, which I have read, over the course of my life. I honestly am baffled by what your motive in this might be.






    Where did I say that rape is equal to death?

    My response has nothing to do with that part of your post, which you aimed at plutonium not Mr. Person, when he spouted off about how wanting to see your attacker dead is just dandy.

    My response is about how ****ed it is to start going on about victims of rape having a "victim mentality".



    I repeat: that's ****ed up. I wondered if maybe I misunderstood you but I guess not.
    Victim mentality is just that, the mentality of a victim, unkess you are a victim you can not claim to understand them or represent them. I watched enough with my time across the world to know opinions are different. experiences are different, and the world does not revolve arounde what people think others should believe but actually what others believe.
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    Re: Victims of Epstein upset???

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    You don’t know a rape victim.
    Do you? name a rape victim calling for someones death, I double dare you.
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    Re: Victims of Epstein upset???

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    Do you? name a rape victim calling for someones death, I double dare you.
    I do, and I won’t. She’s dead now, from an overdose. She was raped by two men for hours. It destroyed her life. She was my sister.
    if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.

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    Re: Victims of Epstein upset???

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    Victim mentality is just that, the mentality of a victim, unkess you are a victim you can not claim to understand them or represent them. I watched enough with my time across the world to know opinions are different. experiences are different, and the world does not revolve arounde what people think others should believe but actually what others believe.
    It's quite the ****ed up thing to say or think.

    Completely ****ed.

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    Re: Victims of Epstein upset???

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    i always thought the greatest payback of a person that hurt you is that he is dead!!!......
    You may find this hard to believe but some people (even victims of horrible violence) never wish physical harm upon others.

    Besides, wouldn't he be worth more (information wise) alive than dead. Like supposedly there are potentially unsolved crimes and or other criminals (yet unknown to authorities) involved with him.

    Even if he was put to death by the government many years later, he would have been given the chance to make a deathbed confession.

    "Dead men tell no tales"
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    Re: Victims of Epstein upset???

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    You may find this hard to believe but some people (even victims of horrible violence) never wish physical harm upon others.

    Besides, wouldn't he be worth more (information wise) alive than dead. Like supposedly there are potentially unsolved crimes and or other criminals (yet unknown to authorities) involved with him.

    Even if he was put to death by the government many years later, he would have been given the chance to make a deathbed confession.

    "Dead men tell no tales"
    I agree with your statement, he was part of human trafficking, he likely has many connections, many underage girls used as sex slaves and prostitutes, and him talking to uncover such a network would have been the most valuable thing of all, not just sitting trial for his crimes but also helping to stop much bigger crimes as well, being dead though he can not stand trial nor ever provide evidence on other trafficking networks he may have used or known.
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