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Are Hispanics Going Trump/Republican ?

I have "heard" the following:
1. Hispanic people are on path to becoming the majority ethnicity in this country.
2. Hispanic people are, generally speaking, culturally conservative.
3. The Dems are currently culturally liberal.
4. In the future, it is possible that many Hispanic people will vote Republican.
5. The Dems in the future cannot take the Hispanic vote for granted, as it currently does.
One of the big problems with this is that multi-generational Hispanics tend to self identify as white. From wiki, sourced to census:

Hispanic and Latino Americans are the largest ethnic minority, comprising an estimated 17.8% of the population.[8] The White, non-Hispanic or Latino population make up 61.3% of the nation's total, with the total White population (including White Hispanics and Latinos) being 76.9%.[9]​

Saying Hispanic community is like saying American politics--there is a big divide.

I don't think much has changed among Hispanics since the election. Trump received 27% of the Hispanic vote in 2016. Today 31% of Hispanics have a favorable view of Trump, 61% unfavorable. Question 74A.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/hash0nbry8/econTabReport.pdf

Back on election day when Trump received 27% of the Hispanic vote, 26% of Hispanics viewed him favorably, 72% unfavorably. Question 11.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

Those are basically close to the same numbers with the biggest drop in the percentage of Hispanic's who view Trump unfavorably, a 11 point drop there. 30%, plus or minus is the historical average of Hispanic's voting Republican. The big exception was G.W. Bush who received 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. Personally, I think that historical average will hold up in 2020. Whether it goes up a couple of points or drops a couple of points that depends on whom the Democrats nominate.

Just using your numbers, that is a big shift. You say that it isn't but the numbers say otherwise.
 
But it also backs up what I said, in that it is a purple state with Republicans gaining a few net votes over Democrats every year - Democrats are losing more ground every year than Republicans are. In just the last year you start off with a purple state where Democrats lost 20,000 registered voters to 2,000 registered Republican voters.


And at that rate we will both be long gone fore them to even be equaled(LOL)


I also don't think this is some kind of trend


But it's independents are the ones really gaining?

Also, Democrats gain more on a General election day/year

Notice your graph doesn't go back to 2016?

I did
 
And at that rate we will both be long gone fore them to even be equaled(LOL)


I also don't think this is some kind of trend


But it's independents are the ones really gaining?

Also, Democrats gain more on a General election day/year

Notice your graph doesn't go back to 2016?

I did

All I said is that Florida is a purple state and that Republicans have been gaining a few votes over Democrats every year recently. No matter how you try to spin it, Republicans aren't losing as much as Democrats are in registered voters, giving them a few additional votes every year.
 
All I said is that Florida is a purple state and that Republicans have been gaining a few votes over Democrats every year recently. No matter how you try to spin it, Republicans aren't losing as much as Democrats are in registered voters, giving them a few additional votes every year.

Going back a few years and in non presidential election years isn't going to cut it

Now there is some spinning!(LOL)
 
Going back a few years and in non presidential election years isn't going to cut it

Now there is some spinning!(LOL)

In other words, you're going to stick to your biased view, no matter what the evidence is.
 
And yet we still do not know how future Hispanics will vote,
I say they will vote like all the other Americans!

And yet we still do not know how future Hispanics will vote,


" I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past"

- Patrick Henry
 
I decided to start a thread on this. I am sick of hearing that Hispanics are supporting Trump/Republicans in droves.


Other than Cuban's in Florida, I don't see Hispanics supporting Trump/Repub's


Let's go back to only about 7 months ago during the 2018 midterms to the state of New Mexico where there is the highest % of Hispanics of any other state. The DEMOCRAT senator won big time.

The Dem senator got a "D" rating from NumbersUSA on immigration.

I have been hearing for years that the Hispanics in New Mexico were against illegal immigration etc(Rolling eyes).

What a bunch of BS

In my opinion, its less likely that Hispanics will largely break conservative. However, I suspect that when conservatism becomes popular again (Right now conservatives are largely starting to die off due to most of them being quite old) will be due to the left going too far on identity politics and alienating people from that direction. We see a little bit of that trend in the conservative party right now, but its taking a bad light due to their white supremecist problem and it being very hard to separate the two narratives, at least from any sort of marketing perspective.

But I see a danger in the current liberal approach in terms of racial and gender politics and a lot of people going "dude, stop lecturing me!" and I hope we liberals can pull back that rhetoric enough that society has time to mature vs being alienated by being pushed too fast. I may hope, but our track record is our track record.
 
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I decided to start a thread on this. I am sick of hearing that Hispanics are supporting Trump/Republicans in droves.


Other than Cuban's in Florida, I don't see Hispanics supporting Trump/Repub's


Let's go back to only about 7 months ago during the 2018 midterms to the state of New Mexico where there is the highest % of Hispanics of any other state. The DEMOCRAT senator won big time.

The Dem senator got a "D" rating from NumbersUSA on immigration.

I have been hearing for years that the Hispanics in New Mexico were against illegal immigration etc(Rolling eyes).

What a bunch of BS

I saw yesterday hispanics for trump held a little get-together. It was packed, packed full of empty seats.
 
I saw yesterday hispanics for trump held a little get-together. It was packed, packed full of empty seats.

Yes, this 1 couldn't make it(LOL)


 
I decided to start a thread on this. I am sick of hearing that Hispanics are supporting Trump/Republicans in droves.


Other than Cuban's in Florida, I don't see Hispanics supporting Trump/Repub's


Let's go back to only about 7 months ago during the 2018 midterms to the state of New Mexico where there is the highest % of Hispanics of any other state. The DEMOCRAT senator won big time.

The Dem senator got a "D" rating from NumbersUSA on immigration.

I have been hearing for years that the Hispanics in New Mexico were against illegal immigration etc(Rolling eyes).

What a bunch of BS

Illegals who vote generally vote democrat. Democrat politicians know this but generally lie about it for crooked political reasons.
 
Illegals who vote generally vote democrat. Democrat politicians know this but generally lie about it for crooked political reasons.

And you really believe that "Illegals" vote in any substantial numbers?
 
DUDE.... Again, New Mexico has the Highest % of Hispanics of any other state

Pray tell why the Republican got his ass kicked so bad in the 2018 midterms?

Well, it was obviously a fluke.
 
Illegals who vote generally vote democrat. Democrat politicians know this but generally lie about it for crooked political reasons.

Mark

If you really want to fear something, fear our double what it should be "Legal immigration"

You get real voters that way
 
The older generation is more culturally conservative. The older generations are dying off.

Well, if I may, I think this goes for any select population of the country, not just Hispanics.
 
What I think is BS, is assuming all Hispanics support illegal immigration.

Especially since they followed the many, many, many rules and regulations to get here legally and more especially for those that then attained citizenship
 
I would say the difference is that states such as Florida who have legal Cubans living in the state, favor Trump more than the states who have a bunch of illegals living in the state. By the way, in case you didn't know, Florida is very rich in electoral votes and has a few more than New Mexico does.

Pure uncut bull****. People who are not here legally don't get to vote. No matter how much you boogeyman it.
There are no non-immigrant people voting in Florida or New Mexico.
 
Pure uncut bull****. People who are not here legally don't get to vote. No matter how much you boogeyman it.
There are no non-immigrant people voting in Florida or New Mexico.

Where on Earth did I say that?
 
And you really believe that "Illegals" vote in any substantial numbers?

You cannot prove two things:

1. That illegals cannot vote illegally without being detected.
2. That illegals do not vote in large numbers which are not detected by superficial observation.
 
You cannot prove two things:

1. That illegals cannot vote illegally without being detected.
2. That illegals do not vote in large numbers which are not detected by superficial observation.

They dont vote really at all, since they cant. It's a right wing mythology
 
I decided to start a thread on this. I am sick of hearing that Hispanics are supporting Trump/Republicans in droves.
Other than Cuban's in Florida, I don't see Hispanics supporting Trump/Repub's
Let's go back to only about 7 months ago during the 2018 midterms to the state of New Mexico where there is the highest % of Hispanics of any other state. The DEMOCRAT senator won big time.
The Dem senator got a "D" rating from NumbersUSA on immigration.
I have been hearing for years that the Hispanics in New Mexico were against illegal immigration etc(Rolling eyes).
What a bunch of BS

I think the GOP is leaving low hanging fruit on the table here.

My understanding is that this demographic (generally speaking) is church going, values hard work, and is opposed to abortion.

Seems like a natural fit.
:shrug:
 
They dont vote really at all, since they cant. It's a right wing mythology

Some claim to have voted. They could vote without getting caught under present voting practices. Hardly anyone ever checks to see if illegals have voted, but most democrats claim illegals don't vote. Why do democrats resist changes in laws to insure illegals can't vote, instead of leaving things the way they are and claiming without proof that illegals don't vote?
 
You cannot prove two things:

1. That illegals cannot vote illegally without being detected.
2. That illegals do not vote in large numbers which are not detected by superficial observation.



I can prove this with just commonsense

Illegal's are getting all they want here and right now which is $MONEY$

That is why they're here in the first place

Voting in mass numbers simply jeopardizes that $money$ they make

This would impair the money they send home to their country of origin which many there depend on(Hello)

So no, they're Not voting in any significant numbers, they're getting all they want right now


Again, if you want to fear something, fear the vain politicians poo pooing our twice as much legal immigration as we should have

You see, these are legal voters
 
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