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ICE Nearly Twice As Favorable As The Squad

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Leftists are doing a wonderful job. Keep up the good work.

Overall, about 42 percent of Americans have a favorable opinion of the ICE agency — which Ocasio-Cortez has advocated for abolishing altogether. Meanwhile, Omar holds a favorability of only 25 percent, Ocasio-Cortez a favorability of only 33 percent, Tlaib a favorability of only 24 percent, and Pressley a favorability of only 22 percent.
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I sincerely hope the Squad leads the rest of the New Democratic Socialist Party for the reminder of this election cycle. San Fran Nan has obviously lost control and is yesterday's news.

How can the Squad make themselves more visible in the eyes of the country?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...nearly-twice-as-favorable-as-left-wing-squad/
 
DamnYankee said:
Leftists are doing a wonderful job. Keep up the good work.



I sincerely hope the Squad leads the rest of the New Democratic Socialist Party for the reminder of this election cycle. San Fran Nan has obviously lost control and is yesterday's news.

How can the Squad make themselves more visible in the eyes of the country?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...nearly-twice-as-favorable-as-left-wing-squad/
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Play-out Trump's fake news as you desire, but the country will be voting for Biden/Harris/Warren, not Trump's figments of imagination.
 
Chomsky said:
Play-out Trump's fake news as you desire, but the country will be voting for Biden/Harris/Warren, not Trump's figments of imagination.
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I think the left is doing a great job. I hope they keep pushing their agenda. Hell, I'm on your side. :)
 
DamnYankee said:
I think the left is doing a great job. I hope they keep pushing their agenda. Hell, I'm on your side. :)
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If I thought you were sincere, I'd welcome you in & buy you a beer.

Actually, I'll still send a round your way - just to keep the door open! ;)
 
Chomsky said:
Play-out Trump's fake news as you desire, but the country will be voting for Biden/Harris/Warren, not Trump's figments of imagination.
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true dat. Trump can try and brand those as the 'face' of the democratic party all he wants but the only people that scares are the ones he already had in the bag (or was that a basket...?).

The election will be fought between Trump and a democratic presidential nominee, none of whom are in the squad. His attacks on them will be relegated to side bars and rally chants; millennials will care about voting for once because they want that sh!t stopped.
 
uptower said:
true dat. Trump can try and brand those as the 'face' of the democratic party all he wants but the only people that scares are the ones he already had in the bag (or was that a basket...?).

The election will be fought between Trump and a democratic presidential nominee, none of whom are in the squad. His attacks on them will be relegated to side bars and rally chants; millennials will care about voting for once because they want that sh!t stopped.
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Ouch! :mrgreen:
 
Chomsky said:
Play-out Trump's fake news as you desire, but the country will be voting for Biden/Harris/Warren, not Trump's figments of imagination.
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Don’t count your chickens before they hatched.

Once the right wing machine has ravaged whoever gets the democratic nomination, plus perhaps their own incompetence, many may once again view Trump as the lesser of two evils as crazy as it is.

America is more progressive than Conservatives believe it is, but geographical spread and perhaps another bout of liberal voter apathy could once again carry the day for him.
 
All the Dem candidates already side with The Squad. Poor old Joe couldn't lay on the self abasement thick enough or reverse his long held positions fast enough in order to please them. Of course, the party powers don't want Biden and will sink him one way or the other. They know he can't possibly beat Trump.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Don’t count your chickens before they hatched.

Once the right wing machine has ravaged whoever gets the democratic nomination, plus perhaps their own incompetence, many may once again view Trump as the lesser of two evils as crazy as it is.

America is more progressive than Conservatives believe it is, but geographical spread and perhaps another bout of liberal voter apathy could once again carry the day for him.
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I was speaking to the difference between the eventual Dem nominee, and the women Trump attacked. In the end, the vote will be for-or-against the nominee.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Don’t count your chickens before they hatched. Once the right wing machine has ravaged whoever gets the democratic nomination, plus perhaps their own incompetence, many may once again view Trump as the lesser of two evils as crazy as it is. America is more progressive than Conservatives believe it is, but geographical spread and perhaps another bout of liberal voter apathy could once again carry the day for him.
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That's right, plus an October surprise from Russia, possibly one from team Trump, and if they are lucky again, one from a bumbling FBI director or something random. Their media/messaging machine is state of the art, best money can buy, if there is a weakness they will find it.
 
veritas1 said:
All the Dem candidates already side with The Squad. Poor old Joe couldn't lay on the self abasement thick enough or reverse his long held positions fast enough in order to please them. Of course, the party powers don't want Biden and will sink him one way or the other. They know he can't possibly beat Trump.
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There isn't much the New Democratic Socialist Party can run on. Lies, deceit, hate, socialism is about it. But I hope they keep it up though.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Don’t count your chickens before they hatched.

Once the right wing machine has ravaged whoever gets the democratic nomination, plus perhaps their own incompetence, many may once again view Trump as the lesser of two evils as crazy as it is.

America is more progressive than Conservatives believe it is, but geographical spread and perhaps another bout of liberal voter apathy could once again carry the day for him.
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Good point, he could still win. But even if he scrapes thru the EC with the same race-baiting tactics (amplified this time) he'll lose the popular vote by an even bigger margin, calling his legitimacy into greater question
 
man, what's that thing you guys always say to us when we point out that a majority of people support something you don't like? oh yeah, this isn't a democracy, and no one cares that an over-sampling of old, white people aren't super fond of left-wing representatives from different states.
 
So in a hypothetical election match up ICE would poll ahead of The Squad...?
 
Chomsky said:
Play-out Trump's fake news as you desire, but the country will be voting for Biden/Harris/Warren, not Trump's figments of imagination.
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three losers. Biden's stupid and washed up. Lieyawatha's DNA debacle will sink her. Harris slutting her way into office, that will go over well too.
 
Chomsky said:
Play-out Trump's fake news as you desire, but the country will be voting for Biden/Harris/Warren, not Trump's figments of imagination.
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If any democrat has a chance it would have to be Harris. Biden is done. He will never be the nominee now. Way to many back flips, comments about China, and his (oh, I ran out of time) debacle, the racism thing, his inability to think on his feet, and not left enough for the party. Warren was never even a consideration. She burned up whatever credibility she had long ago.

Harris is smart, and a go for the jugular kind of gal. She is (and can be) scrappy when she needs to be but she has some baggage that I don't think is sell-able. She wants to get rid of ICE, she will be pushing for tax payer funded free medical for Illegals, and the Kavanaugh fiasco isn't going to gander her any favor from the right or independent voters.

Coupled with running against (if it stays in place) a raging economy, unemployment numbers, stock market numbers, new job numbers, and if Trump gets a success with his China deal or Barr investigation into the FISA warrants I think it will be a bridge to far.

But what the hell do I know. My guess is as good as anyone elses.
 
1. No surprise that the Silent Majority favors ICE over the Squad.

2, ICE is being asked to perform an impossible job, totally overwhelmed by (1) the number of people crossing the border and (2) being hindered by self-serving officials in the sanctuary cities.

3. Meanwhile those individuals in the Squad go around criticizing everything and did NOT even vote for money to improve conditions in those "concentration camps."

4. The Silent Majority is NOT stupid. They see the difference between ICE that is worn out dealing with incredible numbers of lawbreakers and the Squad, four individuals who are enjoying their extended 15 minutes of fame for all that it is worth.
 
Condor060 said:
If any democrat has a chance it would have to be Harris. Biden is done. He will never be the nominee now. Way to many back flips, comments about China, and his (oh, I ran out of time) debacle, the racism thing, his inability to think on his feet, and not left enough for the party. Warren was never even a consideration. She burned up whatever credibility she had long ago.

Harris is smart, and a go for the jugular kind of gal. She is (and can be) scrappy when she needs to be but she has some baggage that I don't think is sell-able. She wants to get rid of ICE, she will be pushing for tax payer funded free medical for Illegals, and the Kavanaugh fiasco isn't going to gander her any favor from the right or independent voters.

Coupled with running against (if it stays in place) a raging economy, unemployment numbers, stock market numbers, new job numbers, and if Trump gets a success with his China deal or Barr investigation into the FISA warrants I think it will be a bridge to far.

But what the hell do I know. My guess is as good as anyone elses.
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This is an excellent post - IMHO - and I very much agree.

I think Harris is the best and most likely to succeed against Trump. She will no doubt clean-up the debate stage with him. But as you stated, she has to back-off on some of these extreme positions. It's one thing to be a medicare for all proponent, but quite another to get rid of private insurance companies! Yish! And abolish ICE? Yow!

You'd think as an lifetime States Attorney culminating in A.G., that she'd have more pragmatic sensibilities. It seems Cali States Attorneys are a breed unto themselves!
 
TurtleDude said:
three losers. Biden's stupid and washed up. Lieyawatha's DNA debacle will sink her. Harris slutting her way into office, that will go over well too.
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I agree on Biden, but we've touched on this before. There's no way I see Trump playing a moral high-ground card to any effect. I do see Harris as stronger than Warren. And quite frankly, I would like to see the effect of the Orange One going after Harris for "sleeping around". It would be a ruckus!
 
Jetboogieman said:
Don’t count your chickens before they hatched.

Once the right wing machine has ravaged whoever gets the democratic nomination, plus perhaps their own incompetence, many may once again view Trump as the lesser of two evils as crazy as it is.

America is more progressive than Conservatives believe it is, but geographical spread and perhaps another bout of liberal voter apathy could once again carry the day for him.
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I just hope that any liberal or left-leaning independent who stays home has the decency to not criticize a single thing the GOP does from that point on.
 
Very interesting poll... Did you read all the questions and answers? Here is one I liked...

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Chomsky said:
This is an excellent post - IMHO - and I very much agree.

I think Harris is the best and most likely to succeed against Trump. She will no doubt clean-up the debate stage with him. But as you stated, she has to back-off on some of these extreme positions. It's one thing to be a medicare for all proponent, but quite another to get rid of private insurance companies! Yish! And abolish ICE? Yow!

You'd think as an lifetime States Attorney culminating in A.G., that she'd have more pragmatic sensibilities. It seems Cali States Attorneys are a breed unto themselves!
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I'm not sure about her cleaning up the stage with Trump. She is a scrapper but how does she do under pressure? We will see. I wouldn't underestimate Trumps ability to think on his feet. You have to remember, he will have had almost 4 years of public s**t slinging contest and about 40 years in the media spotlight.

He is not impervious by any account but she will be taking on a media monster and he doesn't let anything slip by. Less we forget how he turned questions around on the providers about calling women fat pigs and his answer was only Rosie O'Donald or his comment with Hillary about he'd put her in jail.

I think she has some fight in her but it will be a monumental task for her to defend any of the Democrat debate declarations with Trump on the stage.

I will tell you this, If they make it pay per view, I'll buy a ticket. Its going to be no holds barred knock down drag out eye gouging grandmaw slappin fight. You can take that to the bank.
 
Chomsky said:
This is an excellent post - IMHO - and I very much agree.

I think Harris is the best and most likely to succeed against Trump. She will no doubt clean-up the debate stage with him. But as you stated, she has to back-off on some of these extreme positions. It's one thing to be a medicare for all proponent, but quite another to get rid of private insurance companies! Yish! And abolish ICE? Yow!

You'd think as an lifetime States Attorney culminating in A.G., that she'd have more pragmatic sensibilities. It seems Cali States Attorneys are a breed unto themselves!
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I know I've beat this drum before, but Clinton wiped the stage with Trump during every debate. But that didn't make up for the fact that a lot of people didn't find her particularly likeable anyway.

I mean, don't get me wrong; the Democratic candidate should absolutely be required to be able to beat Trump in a debate. But when you're dealing with populism, that ain't enough.

As far as getting rid of private insurance, it's over a year out from the general election, and I see that position more as a sounding-board idea than anything. If the public gives a thumbs down to the idea, then she'll abandon it.
 
Condor060 said:
I'm not sure about her cleaning up the stage with Trump. She is a scrapper but how does she do under pressure? We will see. I wouldn't underestimate Trumps ability to think on his feet. You have to remember, he will have had almost 4 years of public s**t slinging contest and about 40 years in the media spotlight.
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Harris has proved herself as being capable under pressure a zillion and a half times already. Nobody who's watched her honestly worries that she's going to choke under pressure.

He is not impervious by any account but she will be taking on a media monster and he doesn't let anything slip by. Less we forget how he turned questions around on the providers about calling women fat pigs and his answer was only Rosie O'Donald or his comment with Hillary about he'd put her in jail.
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That's not turning anything around on anybody. That his supporters liked those comments is just populism in action, nothing more.
 
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