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White America

Do you want to keep America White?

  • I want to keep America White

    Votes: 6 10.2%

  • I am happy with the present mix

    Votes: 10 16.9%

  • I am not opposed to the present trend toward ethnicity

    Votes: 43 72.9%
  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
ecofarm said:
Context is global. America is only a beginning.
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We get it, you hate white people. You don't have to hide behind euphemisms.
 
ecofarm said:
Context is global. America is only a beginning.
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It could be claimed that only people with demigod delusions have envisioned the perfect world empire, starting with themselves as the ringleader. I suppose that is how empires are built, ie war.
 
phattonez said:
Or we could have kept our immigration laws, not allowed our companies to exploit cheap foreign labor, and kept our demographics.
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Kept which immigration laws?

“Not allowed our companies to exploit cheap foreign labor”? How? You do realize that cheap foreign labor has played, and continues to play a very important role in the success of American businesses, right?

“And kept our demographics”? That’s most ridiculously untethered to reality line in your entire post. :lamo
 
Ahlevah said:
I didn't vote in the poll, but I'll play, Rob!

I wish had a dollar for every time I've been called a bigot (or worse) in this forum. I think you've even called me one, probably more than once. :lol: Among other things, I, along with almost 63 million other Americans, have been called a bigot just because I held my nose and voted for The Donald instead of Hillary. :lol: So I might as well be called one for saying I favor--get ready! Western Civilization! That's the thing that used to be a core class requirement in almost every college in the country. Now it's apparently code for white supremacy, and adherents are, um, bigots. :doh So I guess I'm guilty because I LOVE Western Civilization! I love its values and institutions. I love Burke, Plato, Aristotle, Montesquieu, Locke, Cicero, Madison, Lincoln, Jesus, Kant, Aquinas, and the political philosophy of that bigot of all bigots, the slave-owing rapist, Thomas Jefferson! I love things like the separation of powers, the rule of law, the idea of the primary purpose of civil government being to secure the natural rights of man, democracy (the real kind, not the "one man, one vote--once" kind), adherence to belief in a higher power, self-reliance, industriousness, entrepreneurship and capitalism--freedom!

None of this is to say non-Western societies can't prosper or serve the needs of their citizens. Obviously, they can. But I like a prosperous nation that sees two sides of a coin: freedom and duty. Individualism and collective responsibility.

Tell me, Rob. Are these "white" values? Why am I classed a bigot among many of your brethren in the Left for believing in them? :confused:
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:lol:

So you want me to be the voice of all I never said to you. It is incredibly sad that you do not realize how stupid of a request that is. If you want to know why someone called you something... go ask them.

Until then, go fly your fake, fabricated victim flag somewhere else.
 
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joko104 said:
It could be claimed that only people with demigod delusions have envisioned the perfect world empire, starting with themselves as the ringleader. I suppose that is how empires are built, ie war.
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Make no mistake. The claims of diversity and tolerance are a cover. They mean this as punishment against whites. Notice how little we ever hear about diversity in Japan.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Kept which immigration laws?
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Emergency Quota Act

“Not allowed our companies to exploit cheap foreign labor”? How? You do realize that cheap foreign labor has played, and continues to play a very important role in the success of American businesses, right?
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Don't allow companies to sell here unless they follow our labor laws.
 
Grandpappy said:
I'm a strong Trump supporter. I live in a multi-ethnic neighborhood in which whites are a minority. It a middle to upper middle class area. I could care less what race my neighbors are. I care a great deal about the content of their character, though.
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Fact: If you cared about character, you wouldn’t be a “strong Trump supporter”.
 
phattonez said:
Looks like lots of things need to be shared. Thanks for making my point.

And yes, language would be important in establishing those things.
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And few of them limited by race or ethnicity. All of them in common with all people afaik. It seems you agree then that race and ethnicity would not be a serious barrier to any of those things, correct?

And as I wrote, a commitment to learning languages is a key, but not a barrier. Dont you agree? Isnt a commitment to get to know *any* person key to understanding them and developing a relationship?
 
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phattonez said:
What if we had our own nations? Then we wouldn't have to worry about it. Blacks would have their representation.
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What about those of us that like diversity and different cultures and learning and sharing cultural aspects of different communities?

If you think I want to live in an exclusively white country, that would be NUTS. If I had to be trapped with the neo-nazis, the fundie Christians, the red-necks, the boring white-bread set, the rigid, close-minded Conservatives only? Screw that! I hate to imagine how prevalent such demographics would be when you got done with your ethnic and racial 'cleansing.'

I love color, change, art, music, food, new ideas, different ways to do things, old traditions that still work, old customs for treating people fairly that are new to me, etc. The 'food of my people' is boring as hell (the UK and Germany/Austria)....
 
phattonez said:
Emergency Quota Act
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It was a temporary measure that served it's purpose and was replaced when the need changed.

phattonez said:
Don't allow companies to sell here unless they follow our labor laws.
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You mean the same companies whose lobbyists line the pockets of politicians to pass legislation in their favor? Those companies? C’mon, I know you’re smarter than that.
 
phattonez said:
You have it completely wrong. What's going on is that we are sending foreign aid to third world nations, most dangerously in the form of food and clothing. These countries thus cannot start their own industries and develop their economies, leaving them in poverty. This is why they come here.

The solution is simple. Close our borders and help these nations build their economies instead of keeping them dependent on ours.

Mitumba (clothing) - Wikipedia
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I really wish you would get better informed when responding to the post given that in this case you are making the mistake of assuming that most of the immigrants are coming from Latin America.

Here is some information for you to digest

What is the racial makeup of immigrants?

Forty-six percent of immigrants in 2017 reported their race as single-race White, 27 percent as Asian, 9 percent as Black, and 16 percent as some other race. About 2 percent reported having two or more races.

How many immigrants are Hispanic or Latino?

In 2017, 44 percent of U.S. immigrants (19.7 million people) reported having Hispanic or Latino origins.
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and...

Where do immigrants come from?
Mexico, China and India are top birthplaces for immigrants in the U.S.Mexico is the top origin country of the U.S. immigrant population. In 2017, 11.2 million immigrants living in the U.S. were from there, accounting for 25% of all U.S. immigrants. The next largest origin groups were those from China (6%), India (6%), the Philippines (5%) and El Salvador (3%).

By region of birth, immigrants from South and East Asia combined accounted for 27% of all immigrants, close to the share of immigrants from Mexico (25%). Other regions make up smaller shares: Europe/Canada (13%), the Caribbean (10%), Central America (8%), South America (7%), the Middle East (4%) and sub-Saharan Africa (4%).
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As you can see, helping under developed countries would help but is not "the" solution as there are as many immigrants coming from Asia, Europe, Canada as there are from the Latin undeveloped countries.
 
phattonez said:
Make no mistake. The claims of diversity and tolerance are a cover. They mean this as punishment against whites. Notice how little we ever hear about diversity in Japan.
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Why would we want to punish ourselves? Just because you fear and dont value diversity doesnt mean everyone does.
 
Lursa said:
What about those of us that like diversity and different cultures and learning and sharing cultural aspects of different communities?

If you think I want to live in an exclusively white country, that would be NUTS. If I had to be trapped with the neo-nazis, the fundie Christians, the red-necks, the boring white-bread set, the rigid, close-minded Conservatives only? Screw that! I hate to imagine how prevalent such demographics would be when you got done with your ethnic and racial 'cleansing.'

I love color, change, art, music, food, new ideas, different ways to do things, old traditions that still work, old customs for treating people fairly that are new to me, etc. The 'food of my people' is boring as hell (the UK and Germany/Austria)....
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This is why freedom of association is important. No one should not be forced to interact with those they do not want to interact with.
 
Luckyone said:
I really wish you would get better informed when responding to the post given that in this case you are making the mistake of assuming that most of the immigrants are coming from Latin America.

Here is some information for you to digest



and...



As you can see, helping under developed countries would help but is not "the" solution as there are as many immigrants coming from Asia, Europe, Canada as there are from the Latin undeveloped countries.
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Where did I assume that? Mitumba isn't a Spanish word.
 
phattonez said:
This is why freedom of association is important. No one should not be forced to interact with those they do not want to interact with.
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You aren’t forced. Like Trump says, if you don’t like here, leave. ;)
 
RaleBulgarian said:
You aren’t forced. Like Trump says, if you don’t like here, leave. ;)
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Americans were lied to when the 1965 Immigration Act was passed. Yet you already know that and don't care.
 
phattonez said:
This is why freedom of association is important. No one should not be forced to interact with those they do not want to interact with.
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So then if white color is what's important to you, there are several countries for you to choose from. You could be free to associate with all the white people you want.

I think that alot of white people would be shocked as hell in an all-white country...all their failures would be illuminated as *not* the fault of some other race or ethnicity...their excuses would be very very limited for why they couldnt get a good job, a good husband or wife, get farther ahead in life, afford a nice house, etc etc etc.

I mean...who would they blame then?

(Another thing to keep in mind, nearly all mostly white nations lean heavily towards socialism. Better think about that one.)
 
phattonez said:
Americans were lied to when the 1965 Immigration Act was passed. Yet you already know that and don't care.
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Don’t misunderstand my position on immigration. We need limits and we need them humanely enforced. Having said that, I very firmly believe that diversity is our greatest strength.
 
joko104 said:
I can not think of any non-white majority country anywhere on earth I would want to live. I wish the USA would stay a white majority, but it won't. The Democratic Party open war on white people by unlimited opposition to BOTH diversity and white people assures it.

Understand that the Democratic Party RADICALLY opposed diversity. Our legal immigration system is for diversity, meaning quotas of people from all over the world to assure diversity. The DEMOCRATIC PARTY furiously opposes diversity in immigration. They do NOT want anyone BUT Latinos. You NEVER hear ANY Democratic official ranting for increasing legal immigration quotas from AROUND THE WORLD. The ONLY rant on behalf of those coming across the Southern border as illegal immigrants.

Why? The Democratic Party is RACIST - and Latinos are considered somewhat closer to being white. The CORE of the Democratic Party has always been and is racism. Second, they want desperately poor, uneducated Latino men - as cheap immigrant labor for their corporate super rich fascist owners, so they can still have their inferior servants and foreign slaves since they can no longer directly OWN slaves due to losing their attempt to create a Democratic Party slave-nation, and because poor, uneducated non-Americans are easier to sell corporate-fascism to politically.
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:2rofll:
 
phattonez said:
This is why freedom of association is important. No one should not be forced to interact with those they do not want to interact with.
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That's fine as long as you realize that your "all white haven" wont be America, since so many of us are happy to associate with a diverse population.

I dont think that's really an answer for this tho:

Lursa said:
What about those of us that like diversity and different cultures and learning and sharing cultural aspects of different communities?
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Try again? Or did you just mean that the people that want white exclusivity are leaving and the rest of us remaining to enjoy our diversity?
 
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Lursa said:
That's fine as long as you realize that your "all white haven" wont be America, since so many of us are happy to associate with a diverse population.

I dont think that's really an answer for this tho:


Try again? Or did you just mean that the people that want white exclusivity are leaving and the rest of us remaining to enjoy our diversity?
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What's do the demographics of your town look like? 90% white? I see a lot of 'do what I say, not what I do' coming from liberals on this issue.
 
truthatallcost said:
What's do the demographics of your town look like? 90% white? I see a lot of 'do what I say, not what I do' coming from liberals on this issue.
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90% is not too far off the national average. :roll:

There were 37,144,530 non-Hispanic blacks, which comprised 12.1% of the population. This number increased to 42 million according to the 2010 United States Census, when including Multiracial African Americans, making up 14% of the total U.S. population.

Race and ethnicity in the United States - Wikipedia
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:doh
 
Lursa said:
So then if white color is what's important to you, there are several countries for you to choose from. You could be free to associate with all the white people you want.

I think that alot of white people would be shocked as hell in an all-white country...all their failures would be illuminated as *not* the fault of some other race or ethnicity...their excuses would be very very limited for why they couldnt get a good job, a good husband or wife, get farther ahead in life, afford a nice house, etc etc etc.

I mean...who would they blame then?

(Another thing to keep in mind, nearly all mostly white nations lean heavily towards socialism. Better think about that one.)
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Yes, I know a few liberal-left white guys who don't feel comfortable in an all white culture. Apparently as losers, there ability to feel the glow of white privilege while posturing as anti-racist is ideal. Best of both worlds for the hypocrites.
 
phattonez said:
This is why freedom of association is important. No one should not be forced to interact with those they do not want to interact with.
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Thats ridiculous. There are a wide variety of people in the world. The more you know about them, the freer you are of prejudice, which comes without knowing other people and leads to repression.

Whites have the most to gain by associating with non-white and getting rid of whiteness. We think we have an advantage, but do we? Struggling working class whites put this monster in the White House because he gets their rocks off, but what's he want to do? Strip them of healthcare, support policies and judges that favor corporations over them and leave them more vulnerable - all because of "them".
 
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