Criteria for not living here according to Trump supporters.

Just want to make sure I got this straight.

If you're a brown citizen of the United States and you're not happy with your government then you need to leave and go back to where you came from. But if you're a brown person who is unhappy with their current government and actually does want to come here to escape it you can't. You have to stay in your home country and fix it.

Sure seems like the common denominator here is a hatred of brown people not a love of America.

I don't think it's about race. I think it's about anti-Americanism and those who try to enter this country illegally.

nota bene said:

I don't think it's about race. I think it's about anti-Americanism and those who try to enter this country illegally.

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If you dont like the president you are anti american? If you question the presidents legitimacy you are anti american?

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I don't think it's about race. I think it's about anti-Americanism and those who try to enter this country illegally.

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All four members of "the Squad" are legal US citizens, so I don't know what you are blathering about this time.

I think that only people who have never had the experience of living in a 'democracy' their entire lives can truly appreciate it when they achieve citizenship here in the US. Sure, people have 'love of country' and are 'patriotic' but when are our freedoms withheld from us? Who has the right to tell us what we can say or where we can go or how much money we can earn? Who denies us to express what's on our minds or openly discuss topics that are forbidden to speak of even in hushed whispers in other countries?

A vast number of people in the US have a grave deficit when it comes to empathy or a desire to understand or care about what people endure in other parts of the world. Of course, it's one of the greatest countries on the planet to live and to thrive, but we are only being sanctimonious to those immigrants when we say 'If you don't like it, go back where you came from'. These people that are naturalized citizens have every bit as much right to speak out against authority and challenge US policies as any one of us.

Sometime it takes a viewpoint of someone from the outside to brush away the noise and really see clearly what our shortcomings are. We are sometimes too nearsighted to see the big global picture and how that picture relates directly to the US. If we hold up a mirror to ourselves just once and understand that we aren't a perfect society, then maybe we could understand and actually get behind some of the issues that these people who come from other countries are trying to make better.

The right is demonizing these four women to the point of placing their very lives at jeopardy. Is that what a constitutional democracy was meant to do?
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nota bene said:

I don't think it's about race. I think it's about anti-Americanism and those who try to enter this country illegally.

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OK, so this is where we are now.

Lord Tammerlain said:

If you dont like the president you are anti american? If you question the presidents legitimacy you are anti american?

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WOW, flashback..... those charges were exactly what was said of those who were opposed to Obama.

nota bene said:

I don't think it's about race. I think it's about anti-Americanism and those who try to enter this country illegally.

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Sorry. Those women in Congress are all citizens. I believe you are 100% wrong, here.

Lord Tammerlain said:

If you dont like the president you are anti american? If you question the presidents legitimacy you are anti american?

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Did I say either of these? No, I did not.

Phys251 said:

All four members of "the Squad" are legal US citizens, so I don't know what you are blathering about this time.

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I'm not blathering, and I find pathetic your inability to see the context of what I posted when yours is only the 4th post in this thread. But I'll repeat: I don't think this is about people having brown skin; I think it's about perceived anti-Americanism.

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OK, so this is where we are now.

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Well, if you see everything through a prism of race, I guess that's what you do. And heaven forbid that someone else doesn't because this is "proof" that that person is somehow ignoring what he or she doesn't see.

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

― Theodore Roosevelt

nota bene said:

I'm not blathering, and I find pathetic your inability to see the context of what I posted when yours is only the 4th post in this thread. But I'll repeat: I don't think this is about people having brown skin; I think it's about perceived anti-Americanism.

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And "enter this country illegally." Don't forget you added that.

Chomsky said:

Sorry. Those women in Congress are all citizens. I believe you are 100% wrong, here.

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Yes, I realize they're all citizens. And I have not said that I support stupid "Go homes." But I don't think this is about race; I think it's about perceived anti-Americanism (and again, I am not saying that I share this perception) and about the border situation.

MrWonka said:

Just want to make sure I got this straight.

If you're a brown citizen of the United States and you're not happy with your government then you need to leave and go back to where you came from. But if you're a brown person who is unhappy with their current government and actually does want to come here to escape it you can't. You have to stay in your home country and fix it.

Sure seems like the common denominator here is a hatred of brown people not a love of America.

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Pretty much everybody not a white, conservative christian should leave according to these Gilead wanna bes

Cardinal said:

And "enter this country illegally." Don't forget you added that.

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Oh, and I meant it too.

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Oh, and I meant it too.

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Are you suggesting that the Congresswomen entered the country illegally?

Sabre said:

WOW, flashback..... those charges were exactly what was said of those who were opposed to Obama.

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Complete bull****, no it wasn't. Waht we pointed out what the ridiculous hypocrisy (which always happens with conservatives) of how anyboyd critiziing Bush was anti american or a terrorist sympathizer that should leave teh country, then the right spent 8 years of the most pettiest, dumbest criticisms of Obama in which they had to make up things about Obama to criticize him on.

As usual, conservatives have absolutely no credibility.I can't believe you people even try to lie so blatantly

MrWonka said:

Just want to make sure I got this straight.

If you're a brown citizen of the United States and you're not happy with your government then you need to leave and go back to where you came from. But if you're a brown person who is unhappy with their current government and actually does want to come here to escape it you can't. You have to stay in your home country and fix it.

Sure seems like the common denominator here is a hatred of brown people not a love of America.

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I think it's more about the perception of pitting good vs. evil, meaning capitalism vs. radical socialism, Americanism vs. non-Americanism. It's a winning strategy to paint the squad as the new radical face of the Democratic Party. And by the looks of the polls, these four are not polling well in the swing states. Trump will keep up the anti-American noise machine with his base up until the election. He will get the results that are needed. The Democrats are not pro-America, are pro-illegal immigrant, are not pro-Israel, are against the very system that has given our economy a boost, capitalism. They want to undo everything the country has achieved over the last four years.


"White, non-college voters" who embraced Donald Trump in 2016 but are needed by Democrats in swing House districts" will stay with Trump.

Top Democrats are circulating a poll showing that one of the House's most progressive members — Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez — has become a definitional face for the party with a crucial group of swing voters.

Why it matters: These Democrats are sounding the alarm that swing voters know and dislike socialism, warning it could cost them the House and the presidency. The poll is making the rounds of some of the most influential Democrats in America.

"If all voters hear about is AOC, it could put the [House] majority at risk," said a top Democrat who is involved in 2020 congressional races. "he's getting all the news and defining everyone else’s races."

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Poll: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defining Democrats among crucial 2020 swing voters - Axios

MrWonka said:

Just want to make sure I got this straight.

If you're a brown citizen of the United States and you're not happy with your government then you need to leave and go back to where you came from. But if you're a brown person who is unhappy with their current government and actually does want to come here to escape it you can't. You have to stay in your home country and fix it.

Sure seems like the common denominator here is a hatred of brown people not a love of America.

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Lord Tammerlain said:

If you dont like the president you are anti american? If you question the presidents legitimacy you are anti american?

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Trump has responded negatively to anyone who has questioned his presidency. Even those among his own party. This is, and always has been, about Trump and his deep-seated narcissism.

nota bene said:

Yes, I realize they're all citizens. And I have not said that I support stupid "Go homes." But I don't think this is about race; I think it's about perceived anti-Americanism (and again, I am not saying that I share this perception) and about the border situation.

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Whatever it is, we don't tell our fellow Americans to "go home to where you came from". Nor do we allow the government to say it. And yes, the pejorative "go home" only applies to new arrivals. It's not said to to Sydney Biddle Barrows of the world. So I don't buy your defense, here.

Lord Tammerlain said:

If you dont like the president you are anti american? If you question the presidents legitimacy you are anti american?

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Makes Birther Trump pretty unAmerican, now doesn't it?

Sabre said:

WOW, flashback..... those charges were exactly what was said of those who were opposed to Obama.

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Up and it was used then to point out the hypocrisy of conservatives who use that far more often than other groups. People during the Obama admin used those words to point and laugh at the conservatives, using their own words against them

nota bene said:

I'm not blathering, and I find pathetic your inability to see the context of what I posted when yours is only the 4th post in this thread. But I'll repeat: I don't think this is about people having brown skin; I think it's about perceived anti-Americanism.

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That they all have brown skin is just mere coincidence? Is that really your take?

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Well, if you see everything through a prism of race, I guess that's what you do. And heaven forbid that someone else doesn't because this is "proof" that that person is somehow ignoring what he or she doesn't see.

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Trump is adopting the same racist/bigoted trope we have all seen on YouTube many times on these threads and over the years - dumb racists telling non-whites to go home, go back to their country. If we can't accept and acknowledge that is what he's doing, we're just not being honest.

And it really doesn't matter in some sense. After the Tweets on Sunday, Trump knows because the coverage of them was extensive that much of the country, including white nationalists, other conservatives, and liberals ARE hearing that white nationalist message. So when he's put on notice that much of the country is (arguably according to you) mistaking his meaning, what does he do? Goes to a rally of nearly all white people and dials that rhetoric up to 11. Does that sound responsible to you from our President? Should we pretend it's innocent and he means something else, when even Trump cannot miss the firestorm his comments caused? He's pouring gasoline on a fire he started and it's deliberate.