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We don't need queers

JasperL said:
Well, I guess. She doesn't want cowards and toadies and corporate ass kissers who betray their constituents, or perhaps those who get elected and are content to sit on their lazy asses in the corner and not be heard, but I'm not really sure I'd call those people, and there are lots of them in Congress, "victims."

Otherwise, she seemed pretty good with just about anyone being 'around.'

"I ran for Congress to do this work from a place that is people centered. I believe firmly that the people closest to the pain should be closest to the power. I don't believe anyone is truly voiceless. I do think that there are many people who are unheard, and it's our job to create space for those voices to be heard."
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"All of you that have aspirations of running for office, for whatever lived experience or identity that you represent, if you are not prepared to come to that table, and to represent that voice, don't come"

Seems pretty inclusive to me! And represent "the people!"
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When the Republican Party tried to write their healthcare legislation, all of the Committee members involved were white males. The legislation they wrote, had rape, incest, and pregnancies as "pre-existing conditions", and allowed insurance companies to increase premiums for any women who had had these "conditions". That's every mother in America. The moment you have a baby, a woman's premiums go up - forever. If there had been just one woman on that Committee, I guarantee you she would not have allowed that to happen. Employers are also permitted to remove birth control from employees health care. It's not their policy, and an employer should not be able to specify what they wish to cover for "moral reasons". If this is part of MY compensation, then it should be MY say as to what's in it, not my employer's.
 
Dragonlady said:
When the Republican Party tried to write their healthcare legislation, all of the Committee members involved were white males. The legislation they wrote, had rape, incest, and pregnancies as "pre-existing conditions", and allowed insurance companies to increase premiums for any women who had had these "conditions". That's every mother in America. The moment you have a baby, a woman's premiums go up - forever. If there had been just one woman on that Committee, I guarantee you she would not have allowed that to happen. Employers are also permitted to remove birth control from employees health care. It's not their policy, and an employer should not be able to specify what they wish to cover for "moral reasons". If this is part of MY compensation, then it should be MY say as to what's in it, not my employer's.
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I agree with all of that. I'll add that one of the kind of assumptions underlying GOP opposition to various diversity efforts is that diversity serves no real purpose. What you are talking about above is why it matters in real life, because diverse people have diverse viewpoints and different viewpoints just might produce different outcomes, and better ones. I'm not sure that women on that panel would have changed the outcome, but if you don't hear FROM women, how can a bunch of old, white, mostly wealthy men even properly understand those issues. What do I know about birth control, pregnancy, child care? Nothing. So if I was making decisions affecting mothers, and I don't have mothers heavily involved, I'm pretty damn stupid.

Also, just to back your words up, here's an image of that committee...

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Love how you can take this out of context and get mad about it, but can't be upset at the blatantly racist **** that Trump spews daily.
 
JasperL said:
Well, I guess. She doesn't want cowards and toadies and corporate ass kissers who betray their constituents
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LOL!!

She doesn't want anyone around who thinks for themselves.
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!!

She doesn't want anyone around who thinks for themselves.
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:2rofll:

Quote her if you believe that's her message! You can't! There's a reason you clipped and ignored what she did say. This has been the most pathetic right wing whinging in quite some time. It's just you guys making up views, then attacking them, and ignoring what she did say.
 
marke said:
I understand the black racist freshman upstart. Democrats on the other hand cannot understand Trump because of their blind party loyalty to the racist democrat party.
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More lies from you. :) You seem to like doing that. :lol:
 
Manc Skipper said:
So far as Trump is concerned, it's information overload. There's a constant torrent of mendacity from him and his supporters. His history points to his racist nature, as well as his words which need only to be taken at face value. His dupes try to rationalise away his every utterance as meaning something different to what was obviously said. Fake news becomes an art form.
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Like Martin Lawrence's perception in the movie "National Security," everything about whites is racist from beginning to end. Democrats don't know they are some of the worst racists on the planet, accusing innocent people of being racists. Falsely accusing others of racism is a characteristic of hard core racists who are blind to their own racism.
 
JasperL said:
Like all the other critics of hers on this thread, you are not using her own words, but making up your own false characterization of them and then attacking that.

"I ran for Congress to do this work from a place that is people centered. I believe firmly that the people closest to the pain should be closest to the power. I don't believe anyone is truly voiceless. I do think that there are many people who are unheard, and it's our job to create space for those voices to be heard."
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"All of you that have aspirations of running for office, for whatever lived experience or identity that you represent, if you are not prepared to come to that table, and to represent that voice, don't come"

I'd ask what "narrative" she's demanding others "parrot" but you cannot answer because she made no such demands.

Instead, she said "for whatever [narrative] that you represent, if you are not prepared to represent THEM (versus the old guard, establishment, donor class, whatever) then don't come. She didn't exclude ANYONE or any "narrative."

Now, obviously, she's a far left liberal speaking at a far left conference, so the audience isn't going to be pro-gun anti-abortion Tea party MAGA types. But even with that obvious qualifier, she excludes no one, not even them.

The entire message is inspirational, and amounts to nothing more controversial than, "Don't be a stooge, work and fight and do the hard work for those who elected you, the people." It's a populist message in many ways, not unlike much of what Trump says.
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Of course the slime bag says some things that sound smoother than oil to devoted democrats, but she is an anti-American racist democrat slime bag whose first priority is to further her own ambitions and her second goal is to fight dirty for the devils and democrat party who made her what she is.
 
SheWolf said:
I have heard gay people call themselves queer, and say things like queer rights
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I agree. I've also heard plenty of blacks and comedians use the word "nigger" also in ways which do not appear to be racist. And I have heard Trump say bad people from other nations need to be stopped from coming into the US in a way which only appears racist to biased democrat racists.
 
AProudLefty said:
Why do you continue spreading lies? She is talking about representing your people. Why be a representative if you don't represent your own people?
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There is no doubt she is representing the crooks in the Chicago democrat machine who put her up to this nonsense.
 
Dragonlady said:
That's not what she said at all. She said that the party needs their queer members to speak up for queers, their black members to speak up for blacks - to be the voices of their direct constitutuencies. She's right. Those who understand the harms best, need to speak out about what is happening to them.

I know what issues women have to fight every day, having been a working woman, wife and mother, business professional, and community worker all of my adult life. But black issues I know less about, and nothing from a first hand perspective. The various consitutuencies need their own voices, which is all she said.
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She is making a case for more blacks, browns and queers to parrot the racist democrat party line by shaming those who don't.
 
JasperL said:
Well, I guess. She doesn't want cowards and toadies and corporate ass kissers who betray their constituents, or perhaps those who get elected and are content to sit on their lazy asses in the corner and not be heard, but I'm not really sure I'd call those people, and there are lots of them in Congress, "victims."

Otherwise, she seemed pretty good with just about anyone being 'around.'

"I ran for Congress to do this work from a place that is people centered. I believe firmly that the people closest to the pain should be closest to the power. I don't believe anyone is truly voiceless. I do think that there are many people who are unheard, and it's our job to create space for those voices to be heard."
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"All of you that have aspirations of running for office, for whatever lived experience or identity that you represent, if you are not prepared to come to that table, and to represent that voice, don't come"

Seems pretty inclusive to me! And represent "the people!"
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Is she encouraging blacks, brown and queers to express opposition to the racist democrat narrative? Absolutely not. The only voices she want to hear are those who dutifully parrot the anti-American, anti-white, anti-God, anti-traditional marriage racist democrat narrative.
 
Dragonlady said:
When the Republican Party tried to write their healthcare legislation, all of the Committee members involved were white males. The legislation they wrote, had rape, incest, and pregnancies as "pre-existing conditions", and allowed insurance companies to increase premiums for any women who had had these "conditions". That's every mother in America. The moment you have a baby, a woman's premiums go up - forever. If there had been just one woman on that Committee, I guarantee you she would not have allowed that to happen. Employers are also permitted to remove birth control from employees health care. It's not their policy, and an employer should not be able to specify what they wish to cover for "moral reasons". If this is part of MY compensation, then it should be MY say as to what's in it, not my employer's.
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Fortunately for anti-American racist democrats, several of their leading candidates, like Pocohontas Warren and others, are neither white nor male.
 
marke said:
Like Martin Lawrence's perception in the movie "National Security," everything about whites is racist from beginning to end. Democrats don't know they are some of the worst racists on the planet, accusing innocent people of being racists. Falsely accusing others of racism is a characteristic of hard core racists who are blind to their own racism.
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You have that backwards as usual. Deal with the accolade.
 
marke said:
Try picking up a self-help book on reading comprehension.
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Try backing up your bull**** assertion with more than stupid snark.

marke said:
Pressley is demanding that browns, blacks and queers parrot the racist party line or shut the hell up.
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C’mon, cut/paste your proof of Pressley’s comments.
 
tres borrachos said:
I posted a link to her Twitter page. You don't need your own account. You can look through her page and tell me which 2 Tweets say what you claim she said.

I know you didn't lie, did you?
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Are you gonna continue this? Do I need to find the links of, at least, 4-5 different broadcasts that said Pelosi tweeted people wanted ICE to prosecute illegals to make America white again? If I were mistaken in reporting the claim, certain broadcasts would be mistaken, and, well, some broadcasts are sticklers for accuracy. And I haven't heard any broadcasts retracting their Pelosi and 'ICE to make America white again' claims.

Here's a video since you need one. Don't have to wait long for Pelosi's racist statement.pelosi ice to make america white again - Bing video
 
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cabse5 said:
Are you gonna continue this? Do I need to find the links of, at least, 4-5 different broadcasts that said Pelosi tweeted people wanted ICE to prosecute illegals to make America white again? If I were mistaken in reporting the claim, certain broadcasts would be mistaken, and, well, some broadcasts are sticklers for accuracy. And I haven't heard any broadcasts retracting their Pelosi and 'ICE to make America white again' claims.

Here's a video since you need one. Don't have to wait long for Pelosi's racist statement.pelosi ice to make america white again - Bing video
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I'll ask you again to point out on her Twitter page these 2 Tweets you keep claiming she made. A video isn't pointing to her Tweets.

Did you lie?
 
marke said:
Is she encouraging blacks, brown and queers to express opposition to the racist democrat narrative? Absolutely not. The only voices she want to hear are those who dutifully parrot the anti-American, anti-white, anti-God, anti-traditional marriage racist democrat narrative.
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The "racist, Democratic narrative". The Democratic narrative isn't racist. Omar is not "anti-American" but your opposition to anything you don't like most certainly is. She isn't telling people to fall in line. She's telling them to stand up and ask for what they need. There is nothing MORE American than this. This is the principle American was founded on. You canot speak for others, you must speak for yourself.

No one who is representing the Democratic Party is required to "fall in line". As we have seen, there are a variety of Democrats from all across the party. From centrists, to strong socialists. All are welcome. That too is far more American than what you've posted.

Omar is a practicing Muslim, which means she worships the same God as YOU do. It's called "Freedom of Religion" and it's the First Amendment in the Constitution. The first thing the Founders sought to secure for their nation. You deny Oman the right to worship as SHE chooses. You're un-American.

Being in favour of gay rights to marry is not being "anti" traditional marriage. Democrats aren't passing laws opposing or against hetero-sexual marriage. They're not trying to prevent limit or prevent "traditional" marriage. They're augmenting it. Gay marriage has aboslutely no effect on hetero sexual marriage whatsoever. It's called "freedom". I guess to you, "freedom" and "inclusiveness" are un-American too.

Your racist, xenophobic, and utterly false statements, are the most anti-American thing I have read since I got here. It goes against the Constitution, and every principle that the USA was founded - freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and giving opportunity to all. None of which diminish YOUR rights in the slightest.
 
tres borrachos said:
I'll ask you again to point out on her Twitter page these 2 Tweets you keep claiming she made. A video isn't pointing to her Tweets.

Did you lie?
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I was mistaken about Pelosi's racism...It was on video.

Pelosi prosecutes Trump for his 'racism' but indulges in racism of her own. How democratic. How nouveau-elite of her. See my signature.

Here's the first time she uttered the racist statements. Fifty-Eight seconds into the video.pelosi ice to make america white again - Bing video
 
cabse5 said:
I was mistaken about Pelosi's racism. It was on video. Pelosi prosecutes Trump for his 'racism' but indulges in racism of her own. How democratic. How nouveau-elite or her. See my signature.
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So in other words, you lied.
 
tres borrachos said:
So in other words, you lied.
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Like how environmentalists lied about AGW climate change, I guess.
Like how dems lied about not wanting open borders.
Like how BO lied about keeping your own doctor with ACA.

I didn't lie about Pelosi's racism. Pelosi, at least, is hypocritical with this censure of Trump.
 
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marke said:
Are there politicians who do not lie?

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Is there a peson who never lies?

But seriously, that's a stupid question. To pretend that any politician who has ever lied about anything is the same as a politician who lies about everything is asinine. Imagine a scenario where your spouse had been lying to you about paying the mortgage until you catch them when you get a foreclosure letter vs the spouse that tells you they spent $50 at the store today but they really spent $70. These aren't the same things. And if you tried to defend the lies about the mortgage payment by saying "well the other person lied about that extra $20 they spent! You'd look, quite rightly, like your in denial.

Trump supporters want to get rid of all critical thinking skills at this point. They want to get rid of all contrasts that don't matter to them. They don't care about lying so they want it to be a black and white issue. If you've ever lied then your a liar therefor it's ok for the president to lie all day long.
 
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