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[W:145]Foreign born US politicians

snakestretcher said:
Since when has criticising one's own government's policies been anti-American (whatever that even means)? You do exactly the same thing every four years when you vote against someone whose politics you don't like! Why are you anti-American; would you prefer totalitarianism to democracy-because by condemning these women for exercising their democratic right to challenge their leader that's exactly what you are advocating.
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I don't have any problem with their criticism. What bugs me is them throwing the race card like it's candy. Constructive criticism is healthy for a nation, but only if both sides are heard.
 
Lovebug said:
I don't have any problem with their criticism. What bugs me is them throwing the race card like it's candy. Constructive criticism is healthy for a nation, but only if both sides are heard.
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Well, when one is verbally attacked and abused by a documented racist and misogynist like Trump, what do you expect? Should they just shut up and ignore it, or fight back? Trump likes to play dirty but whines like a spoiled child if challenged in the same way.
 
humbolt said:
Yes, most of us know. Omar doesn't want to acknowledge them for who and what they were, and what they did. That's the problem.
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Why is that a problem for you?
 
humbolt said:
The more relevant question would be why that isn't a problem for you.
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Because what she said is true? Why does the phrase, "some people did something" trigger the right so much?

15 of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia, two were from the United Arab Emirates, one was from Lebanon, and one was from Egypt.
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So again what do you want her to say?
 
jdog21 said:
There are 13 members of congress's House and 1 Senator that are US citizens but were not citizens at birth. All are a part of the Democrat party. 8 out of the 14 are male. California has the most with 4. Mexico has the most country of origin with 3.

Mexico - Salud Carbajal - CA 24th district
Dominican Republic - Adriano Espaillat - NY 13th district
Mexico - Jesus Garcia - IL 4th district
India - Pramila Jayapal (f) - WA 7th district
India - Raja Krishnamoorthi - IL 8th district
Taiwan - Ted Lieu - CA 33rd district
Poland - Tom Malinowski - NJ 7th district
Ecuador - Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (f) - FL 26th district
Vietnam - Stephanie Murphy (f) - FL 7th district
Somalia - Ilhan Omar (f) - MN 5th district
Mexico - Raul Ruiz - CA 36th district
Cuba - Albio Sires - NJ 8th district
Guatemala - Norma Torres (f) - CA 35th district

Japan - Senator Mazie Hirono (f) - Hawaii


Note: Make of this information as you will. They are naturalized or derivation citizens of this country.
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Aren't there 2 Republicans from Texas not born in the United States also?
 
AProudLefty said:
Because what she said is true? Why does the phrase, "some people did something" trigger the right so much?



So again what do you want her to say?
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No, her words were not truthful, by intentional omission. A child would realize this.
 
AProudLefty said:
You didn't answer my question.
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I did. It's not my fault you don't understand it. Ya know, some people are always doing something. I sometimes do carpentry these days - and you might, by chance, notice that I actually offered a distinguishing element that differentiates what carpentry is that's different from, say, flying planes full of people into buildings full of people. I mean, you might notice that. Probably not.
 
humbolt said:
I did. It's not my fault you don't understand it. Ya know, some people are always doing something. I sometimes do carpentry these days - and you might, by chance, notice that I actually offered a distinguishing element that differentiates what carpentry is that's different from, say, flying planes full of people into buildings full of people. I mean, you might notice that. Probably not.
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So you want her to say, "some flying planes full of people crashed into building full of people"?
 
AProudLefty said:
So you want her to say, "some flying planes full of people crashed into building full of people"?
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She should speak the truth, but it's clear she's incapable of doing that. You might serve yourself better by examining exactly what she supports. It's not what you clearly think.
 
humbolt said:
She should speak the truth, but it's clear she's incapable of doing that. You might serve yourself better by examining exactly what she supports. It's not what you clearly think.
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Ok I'll bite. What does she support?
 
humbolt said:
Why don't you do a little looking? You could start with CAIR, money laundering, and Hamas. There's much more. That's a start.
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Money laundering? What are you on about?
 
AProudLefty said:
Money laundering? What are you on about?
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You don't know that the chief executive of CAIR was convicted of laundering money for Hamas? You don't know that Omar raises money for CAIR? Like I said, maybe you should do a little looking before you plant your flag at Omar's feet.
 
humbolt said:
You don't know that the chief executive of CAIR was convicted of laundering money for Hamas? You don't know that Omar raises money for CAIR? Like I said, maybe you should do a little looking before you plant your flag at Omar's feet.
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I didn't know that and how is Omar responsible for the chief executing doing the money laundering? There are always corrupted businessmen.
 
jdog21 said:
There are 13 members of congress's House and 1 Senator that are US citizens but were not citizens at birth. All are a part of the Democrat party. 8 out of the 14 are male. California has the most with 4. Mexico has the most country of origin with 3.

Mexico - Salud Carbajal - CA 24th district
Dominican Republic - Adriano Espaillat - NY 13th district
Mexico - Jesus Garcia - IL 4th district
India - Pramila Jayapal (f) - WA 7th district
India - Raja Krishnamoorthi - IL 8th district
Taiwan - Ted Lieu - CA 33rd district
Poland - Tom Malinowski - NJ 7th district
Ecuador - Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (f) - FL 26th district
Vietnam - Stephanie Murphy (f) - FL 7th district
Somalia - Ilhan Omar (f) - MN 5th district
Mexico - Raul Ruiz - CA 36th district
Cuba - Albio Sires - NJ 8th district
Guatemala - Norma Torres (f) - CA 35th district

Japan - Senator Mazie Hirono (f) - Hawaii


Note: Make of this information as you will. They are naturalized or derivation citizens of this country.
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Why is this an issue for you?
 
jdog21 said:
There are 13 members of congress's House and 1 Senator that are US citizens but were not citizens at birth. All are a part of the Democrat party. 8 out of the 14 are male. California has the most with 4. Mexico has the most country of origin with 3.

Mexico - Salud Carbajal - CA 24th district
Dominican Republic - Adriano Espaillat - NY 13th district
Mexico - Jesus Garcia - IL 4th district
India - Pramila Jayapal (f) - WA 7th district
India - Raja Krishnamoorthi - IL 8th district
Taiwan - Ted Lieu - CA 33rd district
Poland - Tom Malinowski - NJ 7th district
Ecuador - Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (f) - FL 26th district
Vietnam - Stephanie Murphy (f) - FL 7th district
Somalia - Ilhan Omar (f) - MN 5th district
Mexico - Raul Ruiz - CA 36th district
Cuba - Albio Sires - NJ 8th district
Guatemala - Norma Torres (f) - CA 35th district

Japan - Senator Mazie Hirono (f) - Hawaii


Note: Make of this information as you will. They are naturalized or derivation citizens of this country.
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That's wonderful. These are great Americans
 
Grim17 said:
Racist... Nazi... Nazi... Racist... Nazi... Racist... Racist... Nazi... Racist... Nazi... Racist... Nazi... Nazi... Racist... Racist...

It's like trying to have a rational conversation with a 2 year old about string theory.

See ya.

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String theory could well be something a 2 year old might understand. Child-like acceptance is an advantage in quantum physics at that level.
 
AProudLefty said:
I didn't know that and how is Omar responsible for the chief executing doing the money laundering? There are always corrupted businessmen.
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Like I said, you should do a little looking. CAIR claims Hezbollah and Hamas are not terrorist groups. Perhaps you should explain that to the people of Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, and eastern Iraq. They'll feel so much better once you explain it.
 
Grim17 said:
Racist... Nazi... Nazi... Racist... Nazi... Racist... Racist... Nazi... Racist... Nazi... Racist... Nazi... Nazi... Racist... Racist...

It's like trying to have a rational conversation with a 2 year old about string theory.
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humbolt said:
Like I said, you should do a little looking. CAIR claims Hezbollah and Hamas are not terrorist groups. Perhaps you should explain that to the people of Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, and eastern Iraq. They'll feel so much better once you explain it.
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The Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) is a Muslim civil rights[2][3][4] and advocacy group.[1] It is headquartered on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., with regional offices nationwide. Through civil rights actions, media relations, civic engagement, and education, CAIR promotes social, legal and political activism among Muslims in America.

Critics of CAIR have accused it of pursuing an Islamist agenda[5][6][7] and have claimed that the group is connected to Hamas[8] and the Muslim Brotherhood,[9][7] claims which CAIR has rejected and described as an Islamophobic smear campaign.[10] Due to alleged ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, the government of the United Arab Emirates has designated CAIR as a terrorist organization.
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