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The First Rule of Racism...

AProudLefty said:
AOC never once uttered the words "Nazi" and "Death camps". So please keep your right-wing propaganda nonsense to yourself. :thumbdown
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Of course, she meant concentration camps in the best possible sense.

Maybe political prison would have been a better word, except they can leave any time.
 
Jay59 said:
I agree. We had closed borders for most of the 20th century. Now there are mass objections to simply carrying out a deportation order.

Asylum is not a simple thing. For one thing, you have to be flying persecution. That means someone wants to kill you or throw you in jail because of your beliefs. Do you see where politics and religion come into it. The other thing is that you have to apply for asylum in the first neutral country--usually meaning Mexico. When Mexico offered work visas last spring, it probably killed 50,000 refugee claims on top of the already invalid asylum claims.
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I ask again why was it different for Cubans fleeing for economic reasons?
It's not the first neutral country...its the first safe neutral country...considered to be safe by international law.
 
veritas1 said:
No, it's the only conclusion that can be reached based on your posts.
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It's beyond idiotic for you to transpose your moronic definition upon me and then judge me by it.

Absolutely pathetic stupid racist BS.
 
Jay59 said:
Of course, she meant concentration camps in the best possible sense.

Maybe political prison would have been a better word, except they can leave any time.
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Your beef is with Merriam-Webster, not AOC.
 
ecofarm said:
It's beyond idiotic for you to transpose your moronic definition upon me and then judge me by it.

Absolutely pathetic stupid racist BS.
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I read your post. You said black people can't be racist because they can't impose their will on the majority. That's patent nonsense. However, it creates a thin cover for you to support racist vitriol being thrown at whites. Don't get upset at me for easily figuring you out.
 
Middle_Ground said:
I ask again why was it different for Cubans fleeing for economic reasons?
It's not the first neutral country...its the first safe neutral country...considered to be safe by international law.
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If you are trying to make the point that Cubans were accepted long after Castro stopped hunting his political enemies, it would help if he had actually stopped hunting. It is certainly possible that the rules should have changed, but that is not an argument that special treatment should be extended to other countries. It's a false equivalence.

The first neutral safe country is still Mexico.
 
veritas1 said:
I read your post. You said black people can't be racist because they can't impose their will on the majority. That's patent nonsense. However, it creates a thin cover for you to support racist vitriol being thrown at whites. Don't get upset at me for easily figuring you out.
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You invented BS and pinned it on others to support racism. Keep pushing your racist BS.
 
veritas1 said:
I read your post. You said black people can't be racist because they can't impose their will on the majority. That's patent nonsense. However, it creates a thin cover for you to support racist vitriol being thrown at whites. Don't get upset at me for easily figuring you out.
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He's denying being a racist, according to the OP that's the first rule of being a racist.
 
Jay59 said:
Of course, she meant concentration camps in the best possible sense.

Maybe political prison would have been a better word, except they can leave any time.
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She meant to say Covfefe Camps.
 
AProudLefty said:
Your beef is with Merriam-Webster, not AOC.
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Aren't you climbing all over President Trump when he told AOC to go back where she came from. It's hard to say which is worse, but I'll go with AOC.

You need to find a dictionary that has concentration camps that are not prisons. Everyone is allowed to leave.
 
veritas1 said:
Uh huh...now I'm a racist for pointing out what you said. Whatever floats your boat.
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No one called you a racist. Don't snowflake out on us.
 
veritas1 said:
I read your post. You said black people can't be racist because they can't impose their will on the majority. That's patent nonsense. However, it creates a thin cover for you to support racist vitriol being thrown at whites. Don't get upset at me for easily figuring you out.
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This is actually a common argument among condescending/patronizing liberals and liberal sympathizers.

It's pretty much the standard "my s*** don't stink" hypocrisy.

Certain people are deemed exceptional in their racism, and their bigotry not merely excused, but lauded.

What underlies this grotesque idiocy is meaningful in that the historic burden of racism has fallen disproportionately on some groups, but to claim that racism is not racism is the height of absurdity.

A five year old could understand it, but liberals/liberal sympathizers?

Not so much.
 
veritas1 said:
Uh huh...now I'm a racist for pointing out what you said. Whatever floats your boat.
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I'm sure what he means its that you remind him of MLK, but an MLK who "keeps pushing racist BS."

It was a compliment, and only a snowflake would see it otherwise.

:yes:
 
Jay59 said:
Of course, she meant concentration camps in the best possible sense.

Maybe political prison would have been a better word, except they can leave any time.
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concentration camp noun
Definition of concentration camp
: a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard
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veritas1 said:
You said I was pushing racist BS. Seems only a racist would do that.
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You are pushing racist BS. Pretending those that ascribe to the complete definition in the dictionary (not merely part of it), also called the sociological definition of racism, somehow support racism is stupid, uneducated, idiotic racist BS.

Learn what you're talking about and maybe you'll stop pushing stupid racist BS.

I, of course, have no way of knowing whether you act out of ignorance and petty spite or racist intentions. I'll presume not the latter.

All clear?
 
Lutherf said:
These women were engaging in propaganda which equated US border policy with WWII German concentration camps and Nazis. If they are not only allowed to engage in such absurd hyperbole but LAUDED for it then, in all fairness, Trump should also get a pass for his hyperbole.
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But the immigrants are incarcerated in camps. Depending on the definition of "concentration camp" maybe you feel it's hyperbole to call these camps "concentration camps." But what is Trump's hyperbole? He says these American citizens should return to their home countries to test out their policies. I don't see the exaggeration or hyperbole.
 
Chillfolks said:
He's denying being a racist, according to the OP that's the first rule of being a racist.
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I've seen plenty of interviews with White Separatists. They don't believe themselves to be racists. Most racists don't believe they are racist. So, I believe it's a waste of time to argue about whether or not someone is a racist. It's best to expose the wrongness of their idea.

The idea that a naturalized American citizen from a poor country needs to go back and fix their country first is wrong. It's just an attempt to insult someone's country of origin and them. It divides Americans based on where they are from. That makes it wrong. Do you agree or do you think Melania should go back to Slovenia and implement "Be Best" there?
 
ecofarm said:
You are pushing racist BS. Pretending those that ascribe to the complete definition in the dictionary (not merely part of it), also called the sociological definition of racism, somehow support racism is stupid, uneducated, idiotic racist BS.

Learn what you're talking about and maybe you'll stop pushing stupid racist BS.

I, of course, have no way of knowing whether you act out of ignorance and petty spite or racist intentions. I'll presume not the latter.

All clear?
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That's rather humorous. You offer an arcane definition of racism to make excuses for attacks on whites and then get frothy because nobody is fooled. Nobody is concerned with the "sociological definition" of racism when everyone knows exactly what is meant by charges that someone is racist. I'm not acting out of either spite or racism but out of a desire that we not deal in obfuscation.
 
veritas1 said:
That's rather humorous. You offer an arcane definition of racism to make excuses for attacks on whites and then get frothy because nobody is fooled. Nobody is concerned with the "sociological definition" of racism when everyone knows exactly what is meant by charges that someone is racist. I'm not acting out of either spite or racism but out of a desire that we not deal in obfuscation.
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Arcane? How idiotic. It's the definition in the dictionary. It's the definition in all of the academic world.

Racism is more than racial bigotry. Racism is a social construct. Racial bigotry is an individual act. Anyone can be guilty of racial bigotry. Only the majority power can be guilty of racism.

That does not mean I "support racism" "against white people". That's a horrendously moronic and certainly uneducated mischaracterization.
 
Lutherf said:
Right. You can apply at the port of entry. It becomes illegal, however, when instead of waiting in line to apply at the port of entry and remain outside the US until your application is processed you sneak in and THEN claim asylum. If all these asylum seekers did things the LEGAL way they wouldn't be in detention centers. They'd be sitting at the Juarez Motel 6 waiting to get their paperwork.
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You don’t comprehend English to gud do you?

I just provided you a reference from the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services that explicitly says that immigrants can apply for asylum at any port of entry or in the United States.

There is no debating around that. You are flat out wrong.
 
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