I Am Impressed!

washunut · Jul 16, 2019

Luckyone said:
Show me what she said that is anti-American!

Don't change the subject,I find that slimy. We were talking about anti-Semitism not anti-American. You clearly are fine with the former. Just admit it and move on. Your family probably is proud of that fact.

Luckyone · Jul 16, 2019

bubbabgone said:
You seem to be running away from the questions.
You said you researched Ilhan Omar. Sounds like watching Rachel Maddow is what you meant.
I asked you "where did you look to get all this information about Ilhan Omar that you think you've uncovered?" No answer.
I asked if Rachel Maddow brought up Ilhan's antisemitism. No answer.
Find anything disturbing in your research? No answer.

I will discuss Omar and anyone else you bring but first of all, you need to show the ability to be reasonable and a seeker of truth. That is why I have not discussed your questions. I already know what your answers are going to be given that you have stated your position and that you have no desire to research it more. As such, anything I say will be pooh-poohed, meaning why should I even try?

Luckyone · Jul 16, 2019

washunut said:
Don't change the subject,I find that slimy. We were talking about anti-Semitism not anti-American. You clearly are fine with the former. Just admit it and move on. Your family probably is proud of that fact.

I already explained to you that she grew up in an anti-Semite area with an anti-Semite family. She was taught to have a bias against Jews and that kind of teaching takes time to change. I asked you if you were born and raised in Israel and you have not replied. I asked you that because most Israelites are taught from a young age to be against Palestinians, It is natural, because they are enemies in many ways.

If you were born and raised in Israel and were a young man (not old and knowledgeable) and biased against Palestinians, would Palestinians I have a right to hate you? No, they wouldn't.

If both you and the Palestinian were here in the United States and not attacking each other and not trying to blame the other, you would probably in the long run iron things out between yourself. Key word is "long run".

You need to give people a chance to change. Life is a Journey and not just a destination. When you arrive at the destination and your views have not changed (like Trump at 74), then you have a right to criticize. Omar Ilhan is only 37 years old and just now she is first having to face reality of life. Give her a chance because if you and other Jews don't, then you are making the same mistake that Hitler did to those of your religion. Never gave them a chance to show that they were as worthwhile as the Germans were.

Your bias against Ilhan is as bad as hers is to you. Nonetheless, I gather you are probably older than she is, meaning you have no excuse.

Outlook · Jul 16, 2019

Luckyone said:
You totally disregarded my comment and tried to make your points (AOC disregards immigration laws and there are extremists on each side). The problem you continue to have and not address is that Trump is in that 12-15% of extremists (In fact he is in the top 1% of extremism) and he is not being made accountable by the Republicans. He can make changes but AOC has no power to make changes. Yet you criticize AOC but not Trump???

It is hypocritical to the nth degree

You are so one sided because of your blind hatred for Trump. You fail to see the politicians (all of them) for what they are. This is politics, it’s that simply. Trump is no different than any other politicians. All the politicians can be classified as extreme. They all work for their party and not for the people.
You need to stop drinking the democrat kool aid.
I wonder how you would defend Trump if he hadn’t changed his affiliation from democrat to republican. And there is no question you would have defended him. Your Independent classification doesn’t fool me.

humbolt · Jul 16, 2019

iguanaman said:
Funny but to most of us it is anti-American to paint those with opposing views as anti-american. Freedom of expression is that basis for all our freedoms. We will not let you impose your views on us and you can't "hide" from that seditious behavior either.

Those people can say what they wish. Obviously there are a few fools who'll listen.

Luckyone · Jul 16, 2019

Outlook said:
You are so one sided because of your blind hatred for Trump. You fail to see the politicians (all of them) for what they are. This is politics, it’s that simply. Trump is no different than any other politicians. All the politicians can be classified as extreme. They all work for their party and not for the people.
You need to stop drinking the democrat kool aid.
I wonder how you would defend Trump if he hadn’t changed his affiliation from democrat to republican. And there is no question you would have defended him. Your Independent classification doesn’t fool me.

You make one huge mistake and you never seem to realize in spite of our repeated exchanges of posts. I hate Trump "because" of the person he is and represents. I have no bias whatsoever to Republicans (which I was one for over 30 years) or to Democrats which is don't agree with everything they say or do.

My affiliation is to honor, respect, courtesy, morals, ethics, principles and humanity, all of which Trump has none.

I have stated often enough so that you should know that I have never voted before. I was not for one side or the other in any significant way until evil (Trump) walked in the front door.

I understand politics and politicians. Each has his own agenda either for their communities or for themselves. It comes with the territory and if this is something you just discovered then you are a neophyte. That is politics and it will NEVER change no matter who is in office (Republicans or Democrats). Politics and politicians goes to what is human nature and that is to look out for yourself first and your family (including community) second above all else. Most people (thank goodness not all) can be purchased. Corruption has been around since man stepped on the planet and will continue until the earth exists no longer.

What needs to be done is understand it and work around it as best you can. You cannot make it go away.

Nonetheless, there is a limit to how much corruption or love of power can be accepted. People like Kim Jong-un, Al Ashad, Maduro, and even Putin are killers and cannot be accepted. Trump is in that category simply because he is a sociopath and cares nothing about life or the rights of other people.

I am a believer in God and everything that is good in people, though I also understand that each and every one of us has some bad. It is human. But I will fight evil until my dying breath because evil is death, not just one different way to live.

Trump cannot be put into the simple category of being a politician and to be fought like all politicians should be fought. Trump represent everything that goes against what God taught us to be. As such, I now have hatred for him but it isn't blind. It is based on all his actions during his entire life. He represents the Devil and death.

If you do not see it, then it means you are a believer of the Devil yourself and as such, you will never see the light.

humbolt · Jul 17, 2019

Luckyone said:
Humboldt, I am surprised at your answer. I actually had a higher opinion of you than what this post says.

As such, I am going to ask of you the same question I asked another poster (who by the way has not answered) to prove your statement about her being anti-American. I agree that she was (or still is) anti-Semite but that does not make her anti-American. You say "her previous statements" so it should be easy to prove your point.

Mind you, I am not disagreeing with you given that I have only seen her a few times and don't know her personally but in those few cases where I did see her, I thought exactly the opposite of what you are saying. As such, please show me where I am wrong. Give me proof (not opinion) that she is anti-American. I hear that from a lot of Trump supporters and given that Trump is a proven liar and natural debaser of people and that is what he is saying about her, I would like to know if your opinion is just Trump's indoctrination into his cult or if you actually know something I do not know.

Omar has historically been an apologist for anti-semitism and Muslim extremism. There is no gray area in such things. That she can't clearly state an objection to the known motivations for 9/11 and condemn them should be sufficient cause to dismiss her. It's sad that she gets an audience.

Luckyone · Jul 17, 2019

humbolt said:
Omar has historically been an apologist for anti-semitism and Muslim extremism. There is no gray area in such things. That she can't clearly state an objection to the known motivations for 9/11 and condemn them should be sufficient cause to dismiss her. It's sad that she gets an audience.

You did not answer the question. Being anti-Semite is not the same as being anti-American. That is a completely other side of the world and has little to do with America. Israel and Muslim and Arab countries have been at war for eons and people in that area "grow up" hating each other. It is "baked in" to children at a young age. Nonetheless, America is something else. She came here at age 7 and "became" an American and it gave her a new life. Under such a situation, I too would hate Israelites/Jews but LOVE Americans.

You made a clear statement that she hates America. Prove it if you can..................or retract your statement!

bubbabgone · Jul 17, 2019

Luckyone said:
I will discuss Omar and anyone else you bring but first of all, you need to show the ability to be reasonable and a seeker of truth. That is why I have not discussed your questions.

No.
That's not why.
It's because it appears the Rachel Maddow interview was the extent of your research and you can't very well admit that without sounding terminally naive.
Surely it must have been a thorough interview if you were able to conclude she was the real deal based on that.
A hard-hitting interview was it?
Lots of follow-up questions were there?

I already know what your answers are going to be given that you have stated your position and that you have no desire to research it more. As such, anything I say will be pooh-poohed, meaning why should I even try?

Give me a reason to research it more. Show me what you found that I've missed.

"... anything I say will be pooh-poohed, meaning why should I even try?"
That's sounds like someone who has shown they don't know what they're talking about because they can't defend it.

You said you researched Ilhan Omar. Sounds like watching Rachel Maddow is what you meant.
I asked you "where did you look to get all this information about Ilhan Omar that you think you've uncovered?" No answer.
I asked if Rachel Maddow brought up Ilhan's antisemitism. No answer.
Find anything disturbing in your research? No answer.

humbolt · Jul 17, 2019

Luckyone said:
You did not answer the question. Being anti-Semite is not the same as being anti-American. That is a completely other side of the world and has little to do with America. Israel and Muslim and Arab countries have been at war for eons and people in that area "grow up" hating each other. It is "baked in" to children at a young age. Nonetheless, America is something else. She came here at age 7 and "became" an American and it gave her a new life. Under such a situation, I too would like hate Israelites but LOVE Americans.

You made a clear statement that she hates America. Prove it if you can..................or retract your statement!

Oh stop. Anyone - and especially a member of congress - who can make a statement that equates the attackd on 9/11 to that of a family picnic doesn't deserve a seat in our government. "Some people did something..." Give me a break. If Omar can't acknowlege the nature and motivation of that attack, she doesn't deserve a seat at the table.

Or should I pass the buck, and say I won't dignify your question with a response, as she did?

Stealers Wheel · Jul 17, 2019

ludin said:
not really it is her anti-Semitic statements and views that should not be tolerated.

why it is that liberals are OK with bigotry and racism as long as it is against groups they can rail against is the question?
the hypocrisy is amazing and has nothing to do with her clothes.

She has not said anything anti-semitic.

Prove me wrong or everyone will know what you are.

bubbabgone · Jul 17, 2019

Stealers Wheel said:
She has not said anything anti-semitic.

Prove me wrong or everyone will know what you are.

“Israel has hypnotized the world,”
“May Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.”
“all about the Benjamins baby.”
“I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is O.K. to push for allegiance to a foreign country.”

JustHanging · Jul 17, 2019

Luckyone said:
I knew very little about Omar Ilhan, the lady from Somalia that came when she was 7 years old, became a U.S. Citizen and then was elected to the House of Representatives to represent her district.

I have read a few comments here on this board about her (mostly negative ones) but never bothered to do much research on her as she was not someone that I had much interest in. Nonetheless, I saw her talk today in the televised response and again tonight on the Rachel Maddow show and I have to say that I was impressed. She made me get up and take notice for her ability to talk and express her thoughts in a way that were clear and concise and to the point. She blew away the other 3 women this afternoon (including AOC) and made me respect her to the nth degree. She is exactly the kind of person that I believe is a fighter for human rights, a believer in honesty and morals, and generally someone I would love to know.

She said this afternoon (video on the link of Fox News):

She also talked tonight on the Rachel Maddow show and she was even more impressive there than in this afternoons press conference. The video is not yet available but it will likely be tomorrow morning and I will put up here.

If everyone was like her on the Democratic Party, it would be a "no contest" for 2020. The Democrats would win overwhelmingly. She is what the men running the party should be.

My opinion, and I am sticking by it.

That's why Trump and a lot of his base have to lie about her. They tend to hate Muslims, and then tend to hate brown skinned people, and they tend to lie for political expediency. No wonder they hate her so much, and have been lying about what she said.

Luckyone · Jul 17, 2019

bubbabgone said:
No.
That's not why.
It's because it appears the Rachel Maddow interview was the extent of your research and you can't very well admit that without sounding terminally naive.
Surely it must have been a thorough interview if you were able to conclude she was the real deal based on that.
A hard-hitting interview was it?
Lots of follow-up questions were there?

Give me a reason to research it more. Show me what you found that I've missed.

"... anything I say will be pooh-poohed, meaning why should I even try?"
That's sounds like someone who has shown they don't know what they're talking about because they can't defend it.

You said you researched Ilhan Omar. Sounds like watching Rachel Maddow is what you meant.
I asked you "where did you look to get all this information about Ilhan Omar that you think you've uncovered?" No answer.
I asked if Rachel Maddow brought up Ilhan's antisemitism. No answer.
Find anything disturbing in your research? No answer.

For the record.....This "may be" my last response to you.

Nonetheless, for the sake of being totally fair to you I will answer this post, as ridiculous as it is.

First let me point out where you are 100% wrong and where your post is ridiculous.

This is your statement: "Give me a reason to research it more. Show me what you found that I've missed."

First of all I have no idea what you have missed or more importantly what you know, given that you have never given reasons for you opinion. In fact, that is what I have been asking you to do........prove your points with links to what made your opinion.

As far as my own research, your post is just as ridiculous as with the above question. If you read my OP, I clearly state that I knew nothing about Omar Ilhan prior to listening to her in the conference where all 4 women talked and then listening to her talk to Maddow. I never said she was right or wrong in her words, I just said I was impressed with her ability to communicate and that I liked everything she said because I got the impression that she is a caring woman that is fighting for what is right and trying to do the right thing for the people she represents as well as for the citizens of the United States.

At no point have I stated anything else than that. You are the one that is trying to twist it to protect your inability to prove that what she made me feel is incorrect. I have asked you in a nice and courteous way to show me examples and statements where she proves your point and disproves my feelings. You have failed to do so and instead attack me and ask me to prove my point. Where is it necessary to prove a feeling that someone generates in you? It is you that came to the OP and said she is not what I think she is. As such, it is you that has to show proof as to why I am wrong.

For your benefit, you are absolutely right that my opinion of Omar Ilhan was made because of those 2 speeches. Then again, I have never said anything different so you trying to ram that down my throat is not working. I am a very good judge of character as that has been one of my strongest attributes/talent in my life. I more often than not know to distinguish BS (as Trump hands out every day) to when a person is true to their words and in the case of Omar Ilhan, I believe everything she said in those 2 speeches. That is why I was impressed with her because that rarely happens with me. I have lived to long and have had too many learning experiences in my life to know that 90% of the time what people say is BS. Simply stated, people rarely impress me.

Anyhow, if you want any further conversation to happen between us, you have to first prove your negatives about Oman Ilhan and in so doing, prove that you are a seeker of truth and not just a lackey for Trump that does his bidding. Keep in mind that my impression that has been proven over and over and over again of the kind of person Trump is, is a 0 or more importantly 100% that he is an incompetent and evil person that has no morals, ethics, principles or humanity. I felt the total opposite with Omar Ilhan.

Prove me wrong if you can. I welcome it, because I seek truth, not to simply convince people to my way of thinking as you are trying to do

Luckyone · Jul 17, 2019

humbolt said:
Oh stop. Anyone - and especially a member of congress - who can make a statement that equates the attackd on 9/11 to that of a family picnic doesn't deserve a seat in our government. "Some people did something..." Give me a break. If Omar can't acknowlege the nature and motivation of that attack, she doesn't deserve a seat at the table.

Or should I pass the buck, and say I won't dignify your question with a response, as she did?

Show me the link to that statement. People generally misinterpret words (human problem), meaning that you need to show me what she said so I can have the opportunity to make my own evaluation of those words.

I have been asking you to do that from the very first post regarding this topic and so far all you have given me is your opinion on what she said. That is not proof, it is just an opinion.

Stealers Wheel · Jul 17, 2019

bubbabgone said:
“Israel has hypnotized the world,”
“May Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.”
“all about the Benjamins baby.”
“I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is O.K. to push for allegiance to a foreign country.”

So, being critical of Israel makes one "anti-semitic." Got it.

Do you think the surviving families of the USS Liberty are anti-semitic? I heard some of them had very harsh words for Israel.

humbolt · Jul 17, 2019

Luckyone said:
Show me the link to that statement. People generally misinterpret words (human problem), meaning that you need to show me what she said so I can have the opportunity to make my own evaluation of those words.

I have been asking you to do that from the very first post regarding this topic and so far all you have given me is your opinion on what she said. That is not proof, it is just an opinion.

Been all over, Lucky. Just google it. And all I ever do here is express my opinion. You should note that we are still funding care for the heath of those who responded to 9/11. Seems it was a bit more that just some people doing something.

bubbabgone · Jul 17, 2019

Luckyone said:
For the record.....This "may be" my last response to you.

Nonetheless, for the sake of being totally fair to you I will answer this post, as ridiculous as it is.

First let me point out where you are 100% wrong and where your post is ridiculous.

This is your statement: "Give me a reason to research it more. Show me what you found that I've missed."

First of all I have no idea what you have missed or more importantly what you know, given that you have never given reasons for you opinion. In fact, that is what I have been asking you to do........prove your points with links to what made your opinion.

As far as my own research, your post is just as ridiculous as with the above question. If you read my OP, I clearly state that I knew nothing about Omar Ilhan prior to listening to her in the conference where all 4 women talked and then listening to her talk to Maddow. I never said she was right or wrong in her words, I just said I was impressed with her ability to communicate and that I liked everything she said because I got the impression that she is a caring woman that is fighting for what is right and trying to do the right thing for the people she represents as well as for the citizens of the United States.

At no point have I stated anything else than that. You are the one that is trying to twist it to protect your inability to prove that what she made me feel is incorrect. I have asked you in a nice and courteous way to show me examples and statements where she proves your point and disproves my feelings. You have failed to do so and instead attack me and ask me to prove my point. Where is it necessary to prove a feeling that someone generates in you? It is you that came to the OP and said she is not what I think she is. As such, it is you that has to show proof as to why I am wrong.

For your benefit, you are absolutely right that my opinion of Omar Ilhan was made because of those 2 speeches. Then again, I have never said anything different so you trying to ram that down my throat is not working. I am a very good judge of character as that has been one of my strongest attributes/talent in my life. I more often than not know to distinguish BS (as Trump hands out every day) to when a person is true to their words and in the case of Omar Ilhan, I believe everything she said in those 2 speeches. That is why I was impressed with her because that rarely happens with me. I have lived to long and have had too many learning experiences in my life to know that 90% of the time what people say is BS. Simply stated, people rarely impress me.

Anyhow, if you want any further conversation to happen between us, you have to first prove your negatives about Oman Ilhan and in so doing, prove that you are a seeker of truth and not just a lackey for Trump that does his bidding. Keep in mind that my impression that has been proven over and over and over again of the kind of person Trump is, is a 0 or more importantly 100% that he is an incompetent and evil person that has no morals, ethics, principles or humanity. I felt the total opposite with Omar Ilhan.

Prove me wrong if you can. I welcome it, because I seek truth, not to simply convince people to my way of thinking as you are trying to do

A speech, a friendly interview by a supporter who asked no challenging questions, and an irrational self-confidence in your own "very good judge of character" is no substitute for actual learning.
You can start with #87, her marriages, her tax and immigration details.

Luckyone · Jul 17, 2019

humbolt said:
Been all over, Lucky. Just google it. And all I ever do here is express my opinion. You should note that we are still funding care for the heath of those who responded to 9/11. Seems it was a bit more that just some people doing something.

You don't think that I already Googled it? that is the very first thing I do given that I never want to put my foot in my mouth to say anything that is misinformed.

I could find nothing through Google that supports or proves your point, meaning I believe you are talking through your A-hole

Luckyone · Jul 17, 2019

bubbabgone said:
You can start with #87

These are the ones you are referring to?

“Israel has hypnotized the world,”
“May Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.”
“all about the Benjamins baby.”
“I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is O.K. to push for allegiance to a foreign country.”

Show me where any of this is against the United States?

In addition, I have already stated that I am aware of the feelings toward Israel. She was born and raised in a country that is against Israel and her parents indoctrinated her against them as a child. We all have some biases that came from our parents and childhood education and though they are often wrong, they are excusable to a certain degree. Also consider that life is a journey of learning to be a better person. She is only 37 whereas Trump is 74. She still can learn and change. Trump can't.

A person should be rated or valued for everything she brings to the table and not just for the negatives and ignoring the positives. Isn't that what all you Trump supporters is constantly asking us to do? Forgive or forget that he is an abuser, a family separator, a racist, a sociopath, a hater, a divider, a person accused of sexual misconduct by 24 women, a lover of dictators and autocrats and more importantly incompetent just because he is putting a few extra dollars in our pockets and bringing down unemployment? So why not judge Ilhan with the same lenses? After all, at least she talks well and clearly and with real information (unlike Trump that promotes hate and disunity), states goals that are full of benefits for all (not just 40% of Trumps base). and works hard at it (contrary to Trump only working a few hours a day) Why not be consistent with everyone in that respect?

Omar Ilhan bio:

As a student at Edison High School in Minneapolis, she became an organizer and has been a coalition builder ever since. She worked as a community educator at the University of Minnesota and has been a devoted progressive activist in the DFL party for many years. Before running for office, Ilhan was a Humphrey Policy Fellow and served as a senior Policy Aide for a Minneapolis City Council Member. Through advocacy work with which she’s been involved, she’s advanced important issues, including support for working families, educational access, environmental protection, and racial equity.

In 2018, Ilhan was elected to the Congress representing the Fifth Congressional District of Minnesota. Upon her first three months in office, Ilhan introduced the No Ban Act, combating Donald Trump’s xenophobic Muslim Ban, she also co-sponsored the Yemen War Powers Resolution that would end U.S. involvement in the war in Yemen, she pushed to extend DED status for the Liberian community in Minnesota, joined the Black Maternal Health Caucus as a founding member and she has consistently worked to show that the American Dream is for everyone.

As far as "all being for the Benjamins". Where is she wrong on that. Trump is ALL ABOUT the Benjamins. Are you going to criticize her for telling the truth?

and lastly "“I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is O.K. to push for allegiance to a foreign country.”

Trump is pushing to make us an isolationist country and is also pushing to support countries like NK and Russia. Why don't you criticize that if you criticize Omar for her statement?

You continue to not prove your point. In fact you continue to prove my point that she is someone to respect.

As far as her feeling toward Israel. She is wrong on that "but not totally wrong" given that Israel is not lily white either. Give her time and she will change the ideas that are wrong as she is a person that learns and has a working brain (unlike Trump).

You are being a total hypocrite as Trump can be accused 100 times more of the same things that you are accusing Omar Ilhan of doing and yet I don't see you doing any criticism of Trump.

What has Ilhan Omar done that Donald Trump hasn’t?

A politician accused of anti-Semitism. Someone who has been critical of the United States and its leaders, often in strong terms. Who advocates positions outside the American mainstream. Who swears.

These characteristics, President Trump argues, are ones that contribute to his labeling Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and several of her colleagues as “anti-USA,” as he did Tuesday morning.

They are also characteristics that describe Trump.

humbolt · Jul 17, 2019

Luckyone said:
You don't think that I already Googled it? that is the very first thing I do given that I never want to put my foot in my mouth to say anything that is misinformed.

I could find nothing through Google that supports or proves your point, meaning I believe you are talking through your A-hole

Gosh. I'm so sorry. If you've already googled it, I'm not sure why you're asking me about it. Perhaps you're misunderstanding the words Omar spoke. And no, there is no contextual excuse there.

Luckyone · Jul 17, 2019

humbolt said:
Gosh. I'm so sorry. If you've already googled it, I'm not sure why you're asking me about it. Perhaps you're misunderstanding the words Omar spoke. And no, there is no contextual excuse there.

Deflect, deflect, and deflect some more.

Wow, you sure are a person that is worthy of having a debate with.........................NOT!

You make statements and then fail to back them up. You then deflect for the poster to Google it and it is done and nothing is found and you asked again to prove your point and then deflect again.

As of this post, you have been deemed to be a person whose posts and information are not worth reading. You are just one more person that wants to be heard but is not seeking the truth, just seeking attention. I pity you.

By the way, at one time I truly thought more of you. Now you share the gutter with the rest.

humbolt · Jul 17, 2019

Luckyone said:
Deflect, deflect, and deflect some more.

Wow, you sure are a person that is worthy of having a debate with.........................NOT!

You make statements and then fail to back them up. You then deflect for the poster to Google it and it is done and nothing is found and you asked again to prove your point and then deflect again.

As of this post, you have been deemed to be a person whose posts and information are not worth reading. You are just one more person that wants to be heard but is not seeking the truth, just seeking attention. I pity you.

By the way, at one time I truly thought more of you. Now you share the gutter with the rest.

There's no deflection. Either you haven't looked, or you don't understand what you read. It makes no difference to me. Or, I could say some people said some things, and I'd have it all covered. Right?

I'm amazed that you aren't the least bit curious or upset with Omar's remarks. Oh, there is that anti-semitism, but you seem okay with that when all's said and done.

Luckyone · Jul 17, 2019

humbolt said:
There's no deflection. Either you haven't looked, or you don't understand what you read. It makes no difference to me. Or, I could say some people said some things, and I'd have it all covered. Right?

I'm amazed that you aren't the least bit curious or upset with Omar's remarks. Oh, there is that anti-semitism, but you seem okay with that when all's said and done.

Let me explain what I consider to be basics of a person

1) no one is perfect
2) you judge a person by balancing the positives versus the negatives. If there are more positives than negatives, you accept the person and vice versa.
3) Ethics, morals, principles and humanity are more important than a persons bias. Everyone (and I do mean everyone) has a bias for or against something or someone. It is human nature like someone preferring vanilla to chocolate (or vice versa) ice cream.
4) Life is a journey to become a better person. A young person can be excused. An old person has no excuse.
5) Fighting evil is more important than fighting bias. Evil kills, bias just hurts.
6) Most people are hypocrites because they criticize what they themselves are normally guilty off.
7) Going forward is normally better than going backward.
8) A doer is a much more valuable person than a taker.

Having said all of that. In the research that I have now done on Omar Ilhan, which is not complete by any stretch of the imagination but sufficient to make an initial judgment of the things mentioned above, she passes my guidelines for being a better person than not. On the other side of the coin and against the man YOU SUPPORT, Trump fails each and every one of those guidelines.

As such, you are a total hypocrite if you believe any of my guidelines apply to people in general.

HumblePi · Jul 17, 2019

calamity said:
Omar is smart and pretty much everything she has said has been misrepresented (not by accident) by Fox News and the lying Right Wing.

Fox presents Ilhan Omar in the same way they portrayed Barack Obama from 2008 to 2015. They were relentless. They'll show the most unflattering still photos and of course, they're pushing the 'Muslim' xenophobia button as often as they can. People that watch Fox don't hear her words, don't want to hear her words. They judge her based on her color, her wearing of the hijab and the fact that she's Muslim. That's all they see and their hatred is encouraged by Fox.