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Protesters Remove U.S. Flag, Replace It With Mexican Flag Outside ICE Facility In Aurora

Illegal in this context is merely SHORTHAND for Illegal Alien.

Of the thousands of crimes and statutes on the book, illegally crossing the border is the one y'all pick to deem those who violate it as "illegals."

Your ulterior motives of dehumanization are not hard to see except by those who deliberately ignore them.
 
"Beyond the pale"


Cute.

What's cute is how you purposely took Renae's words out of context to score some imaginary victory.
 
The only one who is dishonest is you for implying you were every entertaining sympathy "for protesters' concerns." Refugees are such vermin to you that you can't even say "for refugees." Every part of your wording removes the humanity from them.

You keep stating "refugees".

Is that going to be the new catch phrase?

No longer "asylum seekers"?

(Side note. Only about 10% are actually determined to be real asylum seekers)
 
What's cute is how you purposely took Renae's words out of context to score some imaginary victory.

I suppose if the OP included the n-word, that would be out of context too.

Apologism is funny.
 
Are they here legally? No, thus they are illegals. It's not classifying them as "illegal humans", it's classifying their status on US Soil. Get a grip and grow up.

Well, no, the phrase is primarily for dehumanizing them. If your relative got addicted to opioids and did something illegal to get some, would you like people to just call your relative 'the illegal' - not a name, not 'your brother', not even 'the addict', not even referring to them as a person?

Think about what dehumanizing the group of people in question WOULD look like, and ask, does calling them just 'illegals' help or hurt that dehumanization?

I don't even really object to the phrase that strongly in its literal meaning. The issue I have is that dehumanizing effect. We're already incredibly sheltered, unconcerned, arrogant about the conditions of most of the people in the rest of the world - we don't really need to encourage not paying attention to them as people even more.

When's the last time you heard a trumpista begin a sentence with, "I'm concerned about the severe problems people in Central America face; to help them do better I think we should..."

The Republicans view on 'illegals', including refugees, generally goes beyond crazy rage and hate, viewing them as a disease infecting our country and threatening them, who they don't care if they starve, drown, go without medical care, are terrorized, or anything else, only that they STAY OUT,
 
Of the thousands of crimes and statutes on the book, illegally crossing the border is the one y'all pick to deem those who violate it as "illegals."

Your ulterior motives of dehumanization are not hard to see except by those who deliberately ignore them.

Accurately stating their status is "dehumanizing"?

Illegally crossing the border is what make one an Illegal Alien. Overstaying one's visa makes one an Illegal Alien.
 
Oh, and every time you wonder how trump supporters can support the cruel treatment of refugees as a deterrent to other refugees, just remember this:

The Cruelty Is the Point


President Trump and his supporters find community by rejoicing in the suffering of those they hate and fear.

After two years of the anti-Trump left's ranting about Trump stealing the election from their precious Hillary aka #collusiondelusion, it's mildly amusing to watch them pretend that ICE is acting as Heil Trump's supporters vehicle for entertainment. How low will they go?
 
:lamo

Your side calls human beings "illegal," so nice try on the projection. :)

Your side called the POTUS and his voters worse...

I'm sure you think you have a point to make though.
 
Of the thousands of crimes and statutes on the book, illegally crossing the border is the one y'all pick to deem those who violate it as "illegals."

Your ulterior motives of dehumanization are not hard to see except by those who deliberately ignore them.

It's a misdemeanor... Almost every case prosecuted along the border has resulted in a sentence of time served...
 
Accurately stating their status is "dehumanizing"?

Illegally crossing the border is what make one an Illegal Alien. Overstaying one's visa makes one an Illegal Alien.

So we are differentiating from the asylum applicants, correct?
 
Protesters Remove U.S. Flag, Replace It With Mexican Flag Outside ICE Facility In Aurora – CBS Denver

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ANY sympathy, agreement, or give a **** about the protesters concerns I might have entertained... just went out the window. This is beyond the pale. I'm pissed

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ANY sympathy, agreement, or give a **** about the Right's concerns I might have entertained... just went out the window.

So relieved that you finally found a convenient excuse for your prejudice. I was worried that you might never find one. :lamo
 
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Whatever. Some idiots changed a flag. Some may be arrested or ...whatever, I don't care. This is as non as non-issues get.

You've a right not to care. Freedom is a wonderful thing, but you have to admit that when what happened in the O/P goes viral, it becomes a matter of horrible optics. This is not helping the plight of the undocumented hoping to become citizens of our country.
 
Are they here legally? No, thus they are illegals. It's not classifying them as "illegal humans", it's classifying their status on US Soil. Get a grip and grow up.

Blood and soil!!
Blood and soil!!
Blood and soil!!
 
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ANY sympathy, agreement, or give a **** about the Right's concerns I might have entertained... just went out the window.

So relieved that you finally found a convenient excuse for your prejudice. I was worried that you might never find one. :lamo

Good Gawd... I've seen hyperbolic post fails, but yours is epic.
 
This is just the sort of incident to get brainless people to stop paying attention to the "they were protesting" part and why and the justice of that, and to instead say they're against them because they disagree with the particular action on the flag by someone.

It's be like saying "the people wanting the US to fight Hitler just lost the argument because I heard one call Nazis 'krauts'. I don't approve of slurs like that, so now I'm pro-Hitler."
 
You've a right not to care. Freedom is a wonderful thing, but you have to admit that when what happened in the O/P goes viral, it becomes a matter of horrible optics. This is not helping the plight of the undocumented hoping to become citizens of our country.

Does anyone remember the backlash during the 2006 immigration protests?
 
Accurately stating their status is "dehumanizing"?

Referring to people as illegal is dehumanizing. Referring to people as aliens is dehumanizing.
 
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