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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Hey, I'm not the one who tossed this fish into the pot. I was just cooking it.
    Taking a knee against oppression is not the same as refusing to wear the team shirt.
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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Was it against Kaepernick's religion to stand for the national anthem? No. Is there a spot in Title VII reserved for jerks? No. So legally he, um, didn't have a leg to stand on.
    So, if someone says "it's against my religion" then it's okay, otherwise it's not?

    Come on, that's ridiculous.

    I could literally say "it's against my religion to come in contact with black people" Wham, you've just made black people 3rd class citizens again.

    However there is a place in the US Constitution for freedom of speech.

    This soccer player has the right to say she doesn't like gay people. She does not have any rights whatsoever to be a member of the US national soccer team. That is only a privilege.
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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    Speaking of "twisting" did she say "I hate gays, they shouldn't be allowed to be first class citizens" or that "we don't want lezz'ies in this country" ?
    Of course she didn't. Therefore your why are you "twisting this"?

    To the contrary, why are you pretending that she did something other than being a Christian? You think "being Muslim, or Gay, or Jewish, or Black is "doing something"?

    So far your line of argument is indistinguishable from bigotry and hate speech. Do you have an actual argument?



    Now your ranting a non-sequitur. What do the actions of others, in other circumstances, have to do with her? Once again, you could be ranting about the cultural or social opinions (or actions) of members of any group - Muslim, Orthodox Jewish, Christian, Catholics, Blacks, or Gay...(etc), and once more you advanced an argument based on your personal bigotry.



    So, in other words, the reason she should have been excluded from the National Team is that she is a religious person, and they hold views you don't approve of.

    How persuasive.
    There are may ways to communicate. Her actions said "I hate gay people". Simple as.

    Oh right, yeah, she didn't do anything but be Christian, considering that the zealot Christians seem to pick and choose what they hate, don't follow the Bible, ignore parts of the Bible, like the good ol' adultery part.....

    Ah, so pointing out that Christian zealots are so full of nonsense and using their religion to hide their bigotry behind is now something you don't want to discuss. OH WHAT A FREAKING SURPRISE>
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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Taking a knee against oppression is not the same as refusing to wear the team shirt.
    No, but in this thread it's still a red herring. Nonetheless, I chose to address it because it gave me a chance to point out the legal difference between Kaep's protest and Hinkle's. Notice as well that NFL players now either stand for the anthem or they disappear. They can protest oppression on their own time, which for Kaepernick is now most of the time.
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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Frigidweirdo View Post
    There are may ways to communicate. Her actions said "I hate gay people". Simple as.
    Sort of like Rapnioe's actions said, "I hate America!"? She could have just come out and said it.
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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

    *NFL teams don't sign Kaepernick because he won't toe the line*

    Conservatives: HAHA LOSER! LIBTARD! BETTER STAND FOR MY FLAG!

    *Women's soccer team doesn't carry on with a team member who doesn't toe the line*

    Conservatives: THEY HATE GOD AND WE'RE ALL SO PERSECUTED

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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Frigidweirdo View Post
    There are may ways to communicate. Her actions said "I hate gay people". Simple as.

    Oh right, yeah, she didn't do anything but be Christian, considering that the zealot Christians seem to pick and choose what they hate, don't follow the Bible, ignore parts of the Bible, like the good ol' adultery part.....

    Ah, so pointing out that Christian zealots are so full of nonsense and using their religion to hide their bigotry behind is now something you don't want to discuss. OH WHAT A FREAKING SURPRISE>
    You mean her unwillingness to be a billboard for someone's else's cause makes her guilty of what, other not wishing to advertise gay pride and politics? I am sure there are those on the national team who would not wear T-shirts touting an identity pride of being straight, white, Muslim, American, Catholic, or southern either, does that mean "I hate people that are one of those"?

    If you are now revealing that this isn't about Hinkle, but really want rant about Christians, fine by me. But demonizing and expressing bigotry towards Christians is a different subject...not relevant to the OP.

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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

    Quote Originally Posted by nekrodev View Post
    *NFL teams don't sign Kaepernick because he won't toe the line*

    Conservatives: HAHA LOSER! LIBTARD! BETTER STAND FOR MY FLAG!

    *Women's soccer team doesn't carry on with a team member who doesn't toe the line*

    Conservatives: THEY HATE GOD AND WE'RE ALL SO PERSECUTED
    Here's a difference, though: Kaep, while he was in the league, was never forced to stand. He didn't have to choose between his job or his conscience. Jaelene Hinkle did.
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    Re: U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Taking a knee against oppression is not the same as refusing to wear the team shirt.
    Correct.

    Taking a knee is an affirmative action to send a political message to an audience, just as the coach (or whoever) had all the women players forgo their standard uniform in order to send a political message to the audience.

    Hinkle, on the other hand, declined to participate in the required political messaging. And since then has been discriminated against because she didn't "take a knee".
    Last edited by maxparrish; 07-12-19 at 11:55 PM.

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