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From Epstein To Pelosi

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If the bipartisan debauchery of the Epstien case teaches us anything, it should be this. Vote for your version of AOC. Someone not corrupted by the money, beholden to power, or so far removed from what the **** they are supposed to be doing in Congress that they start mocking the people who are pushing for change is the candidate we should be voting for in our districts come the next election.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is trying to tamp down an ongoing squabble between a quartet of progressive members and a large bloc of moderate Democrats. The effort comes after a leading progressive said the speaker was being "disrespectful" of the group, dubbed "the squad," and cited race as a factor.

Tensions inside the caucus have simmered for some time, but the internal party fight spilled out into the open during debate over a border spending bill that passed the House last month. Pelosi allowed a vote on a Senate-passed version of the bill, without a series of amendments negotiated by progressives to protect migrants, at the behest of more moderate members.

Pelosi Feud With Progressives Erupts In Public As Party Works To Unify : NPR
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Well...Nancy isn't doing her job. Well, unless, of course, you want to say her job is to protect the rich and powerful while kissing Mitch McConnell's derriere and avoiding a real fight with Donald Trump.

After all, who can forget this?

Pelosi insisted that the [border] bill — which the squad of four voted against, along with dozens of other Democrats — was the strongest she could get.

“All these people have their public whatever and their Twitter world,” Pelosi said, referring to the four Democratic women. “But they didn’t have any following. They’re four people and that’s how many votes they got.”

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“If the left doesn’t think I’m left enough, so be it,” Pelosi concluded defiantly. “As I say to these people, come to my basement. I have these signs about single-payer (health care) from 30 years ago. I understand what they’re saying. But we have a responsibility to get something done, which is different from advocacy. We have to have a solution, not just a Twitter fight.”

Nancy Pelosi Slams Young House Progressives As Tiny Squad With No Support | HuffPost
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If Nancy is too old and disconnected or too corrupt and well-connected to understand the power of Twitter, she probably needs to be kicked out of the leadership role by the Young Guns like AOC.
 
Nancy was placed in an untenable situation - hold incarcerated migrant/asylum children hostage until Mitch McTurtle caved on concessions.

Pelosi decided to not allow a handful of freshman legislators to put the Democrat Party in the awkward position of holding up funding for a [Trump/Miller engineered] border emergency in which incarcerated children are being denied basic sustenance, sanitation, and medical care. In this case, expediency trumps hardheadedness.
 
Backing up my Epstein reference is this piece.

The state of New York protected Jeffrey Epstein — not his victims

The story of Jeffrey Epstein isn’t about Donald Trump, or Bill Clinton. It’s the story of a wealthy serial sexual predator who got away with his crimes for decades with the assistance of a bipartisan cadre of powerful allies, including in the offices that are supposed to prosecute such crimes.

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This effort was not just surprising, it directly contradicted the New York Board of Examiners of Sex Offenders’ evaluation of Epstein, whom the board viewed as a high-risk sex offender for his actions in Florida. Manhattan’s district attorney, Cyrus Vance, said later that the request to lower Epstein’s sex offender status was a mistake, saying in a briefing that summer, “In reaching that conclusion, the People apparently relied on a combination of a mistaken interpretation of the governing legal standards and certain secondhand information about the Florida case.”
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If you believe that, Cyrus will probably have available for you a certain bridge to buy.


Mistake or not, Vance’s office has faced questions over its prosecutorial decisions before in cases involved the powerful and well-connected. In fact, Vance’s office was under investigation last year by the state of New York for his decision not to prosecute Harvey Weinstein on allegations of sexual misconduct (despite recordings of Weinstein admitting to groping a woman) before that inquiry was paused. And in 2012, Vance dropped an investigation into Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr. for allegedly misleading condo buyers, reportedly after receiving a visit from Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Marc Kasowitz.
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You want to take the rich and powerful out of the equation? Vote for those who are not their water carriers.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Nancy was placed in an untenable situation - hold incarcerated migrant/asylum children hostage until Mitch McTurtle caved on concessions.

Pelosi decided to not allow a handful of freshman legislators to put the Democrat Party in the awkward position of holding up funding for a [Trump/Miller engineered] border emergency in which incarcerated children are being denied basic sustenance, sanitation, and medical care. In this case, expediency trumps hardheadedness.
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I don't disagree with her border decision--politics is the art of achieving the possible. I have a problem with her trying to whip the rebels into shape.
 
calamity said:
I don't disagree with her border decision--politics is the art of achieving the possible. I have a problem with her trying to whip the rebels into shape.
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I agree let the rebels be outspoken and fracture the Democratic party. With a broken Republican and Democratic party catering to the extreme wings hopefully a common sence centrist party can arise bringing back some sanity to DC
 
calamity said:
If the bipartisan debauchery of the Epstien case teaches us anything, it should be this. Vote for your version of AOC. Someone not corrupted by the money, beholden to power, or so far removed from what the **** they are supposed to be doing in Congress that they start mocking the people who are pushing for change is the candidate we should be voting for in our districts come the next election.



Well...Nancy isn't doing her job. Well, unless, of course, you want to say her job is to protect the rich and powerful while kissing Mitch McConnell's derriere and avoiding a real fight with Donald Trump.

After all, who can forget this?




If Nancy is too old and disconnected or too corrupt and well-connected to understand the power of Twitter, she probably needs to be kicked out of the leadership role by the Young Guns like AOC.
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I agree with this, across all party lines...



But I really can't stand AOC.
 
Chillfolks said:
I agree let the rebels be outspoken and fracture the Democratic party. With a broken Republican and Democratic party catering to the extreme wings hopefully a common sence centrist party can arise bringing back some sanity to DC
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This has been kinda my voting strategy for a while, now. If Trump wins again, in hoping to vote for his counter point on the D side. Even if its....AOC.

Bottom line? Vote in the crazies...it puts their, and by extension, their party's crazy, under a big bright spot light.
 
calamity said:
If the bipartisan debauchery of the Epstien case teaches us anything, it should be this. Vote for your version of AOC. Someone not corrupted by the money, beholden to power, or so far removed from what the **** they are supposed to be doing in Congress that they start mocking the people who are pushing for change is the candidate we should be voting for in our districts come the next election.



Well...Nancy isn't doing her job. Well, unless, of course, you want to say her job is to protect the rich and powerful while kissing Mitch McConnell's derriere and avoiding a real fight with Donald Trump.

After all, who can forget this?




If Nancy is too old and disconnected or too corrupt and well-connected to understand the power of Twitter, she probably needs to be kicked out of the leadership role by the Young Guns like AOC.
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By all means, please run more candidates like AOC.... :bon_voyag
 
KevinKohler said:
This has been kinda my voting strategy for a while, now. If Trump wins again, in hoping to vote for his counter point on the D side. Even if its....AOC.

Bottom line? Vote in the crazies...it puts their, and by extension, their party's crazy, under a big bright spot light.
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Trump is the craziest. That's why he has such a big spotlight.

One good thing about Trump is he has destroyed the Republican party. This new hate party he has created won't last. There just aren't enough poorly educated White men to sustain it.
 
calamity said:
If Nancy is too old and disconnected or too corrupt and well-connected to understand the power of Twitter, she probably needs to be kicked out of the leadership role by the Young Guns like AOC.
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I'm with Nancy. AOC and her crew will lead us to defeat and strengthen Trump.

Change takes time. It sucks but that's just how it is. IF we try to do everything at once it all collapses and the conservatives drag us backward.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
I'm with Nancy. AOC and her crew will lead us to defeat and strengthen Trump.

Change takes time. It sucks but that's just how it is. IF we try to do everything at once it all collapses and the conservatives drag us backward.
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But that all happened at the debates when the progressives voted to give illegal aliens health care benefits.
You guys keep doing it to yourselves. Dragging yourself backwards.

It's fascinating to watch too. ;)
 
trixare4kids said:
But that all happened at the debates when the progressives voted to give illegal aliens health care benefits.
You guys keep doing it to yourselves. Dragging yourself backwards.

It's fascinating to watch too. ;)
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Yes, because it is always better to throw illegals into concentration camps and let them die. :roll:

Oh, wait. Were you going to say that we give them free healthcare there? :lamo
 
ocean515 said:
By all means, please run more candidates like AOC.... :bon_voyag
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So, in essence, you are saying you like the power elite to remain in charge.
 
ocean515 said:
I didn't suggest or say that. I just want the New Democratic Party to run more candidates like AOC.
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Actually you did. But, yes. It's funny that you missed it.
 
ocean515 said:
No, not at all. Don't get weird Clam. You know your fondness for making stuff up.

I simply stated I wanted the NDP to run more candidates like AOC.
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You know what you meant by that. And, I made reference to it.
 
calamity said:
If the bipartisan debauchery of the Epstien case teaches us anything, it should be this. Vote for your version of AOC. Someone not corrupted by the money, beholden to power, or so far removed from what the **** they are supposed to be doing in Congress that they start mocking the people who are pushing for change is the candidate we should be voting for in our districts come the next election.



Well...Nancy isn't doing her job. Well, unless, of course, you want to say her job is to protect the rich and powerful while kissing Mitch McConnell's derriere and avoiding a real fight with Donald Trump.

After all, who can forget this?




If Nancy is too old and disconnected or too corrupt and well-connected to understand the power of Twitter, she probably needs to be kicked out of the leadership role by the Young Guns like AOC.
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Didn't AOC just complain that being a Congress person was too much work? Why would I vote for a slacker. :lamo
 
ocean515 said:
I meant what I said. And that's it. Don't blame me for where you're curious imagination takes you.
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Yes you said what you meant. I know. And, I responded in kind.
 
ocean515 said:
LOL

Sure you did Clam. Sure you did.
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Calamity knew what you meant, and ignored it to subsitiute something different. It's almost as surprising as finding out water is wet.
 
Chillfolks said:
Calamity knew what you meant, and ignored it to subsitiute something different. It's almost as surprising as finding out water is wet.
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It's possible that something was written with the author having no idea what was meant by it. I probably should have considered that.
 
calamity said:
It's possible that something was written with the author having no idea what was meant by it. I probably should have considered that.
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You probably should of asked for clarification instead of making assumptions if you were interested in an open and honest debate.
 
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