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LOL!: IG found Steele to be credible

justabubba said:
you are the one who insisted it was an agent of the russian government who offered hillary the dossier
yet you are unable to identify said agent
which then allows us to conclude that you don't know who made that dossier available to the hillary campaign

just pointing out - again - that your posts tend to be devoid of any facts
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Yet again-- you are giving Russia the benefit of the doubt. Why are you trusting the origin of anti-Trump dirt from anonymous Russian sources?
 
justabubba said:
there was obstruction, without any doubt as is found within the Mueler report
as to manipulation of the campaign by and between the russian government and the tRump campaign, that is yet to be determined conclusively, which is why the congressional oversight committees want to question members of tRump's team under oath
that tRump prohibits those subpoenaed witnesses from testifying before the congress is indicative of a tRump campaign and administration with something to hide
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It was determined conclusively by Mueller-- there was no conspiracy between Trump & Co. and Russia.

With collusion, Mueller fudged. But there is really no there there either.
 
Athanasius68 said:
I responded to your post.
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actually, you did not respond to my question

you failed to identify where i posted that manafort hired page, which was my explicit question
 
Athanasius68 said:
Yet again-- you are giving Russia the benefit of the doubt. Why are you trusting the origin of anti-Trump dirt from anonymous Russian sources?
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you are pretending that the russian government offered the dossier to hillary's campaign

i am responding that you have admitted that you do not know who made that offer, and thus you are without the ability to honestly insist that an agent of the russian government did so
 
justabubba said:
actually, you did not respond to my question

you failed to identify where i posted that manafort hired page, which was my explicit question
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Your question was why would FBI express their concerns of the hiring of Page to the campaign when the chairman is in jail.
The answer is that Manafort did not hire Page, Page' s employment preceded that of Manafort s'.
 
justabubba said:
you are pretending that the russian government offered the dossier to hillary's campaign

i am responding that you have admitted that you do not know who made that offer, and thus you are without the ability to honestly insist that an agent of the russian government did so
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I am going on the assumption that Russia was screwing with the election.
 
chuckiechan said:
Two anonymous sources. This is the SOS the entire narrative has been built on. That is not enough to hang you hat on, unless you are in the TDS choir.
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These poor poor Trump haters. They have been getting burned by anonymous sources from the beginning of the Russian collusion hoax, each followed by loud chants of "We got him now!". Will they never learn?
 
Athanasius68 said:
It was determined conclusively by Mueller-- there was no conspiracy between Trump & Co. and Russia.

With collusion, Mueller fudged. But there is really no there there either.
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Muller cited the various instances of obstruction. that is clear to anyone with an ability to read his report

his report also noted that it was unable to document collaboration between team tRump and team putin to the degree necessary to expect to prevail in court. he added that team tRump's unwillingness to cooperate with the investigation, as well as the white house obstruction, prevented the accumulation of documentation necessary to indict
 
justabubba said:
Muller cited the various instances of obstruction. that is clear to anyone with an ability to read his report

his report also noted that it was unable to document collaboration between team tRump and team putin to the degree necessary to expect to prevail in court. he added that team tRump's unwillingness to cooperate with the investigation, as well as the white house obstruction, prevented the accumulation of documentation necessary to indict
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Theoretical obstruction. He also indicated those acts which work against: cooperation during the investigation and that there was no conspiracy began Trump and v Russia.
 
ObamacareFail said:
These poor poor Trump haters. They have been getting burned by anonymous sources from the beginning of the Russian collusion hoax, each followed by loud chants of "We got him now!". Will they never learn?
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They have their whole heart and soul invested in a hoax. Its going be a real downer few months.... then the clown show will kick its tallest midget out to the national stage while the rest run for cover.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Your question was why would FBI express their concerns of the hiring of Page to the campaign when the chairman is in jail.
The answer is that Manafort did not hire Page, Page' s employment preceded that of Manafort s'.
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here's what i actually posted:
justabubba said:
if page was intentionally hired by someone in the campaign seeking page's unique abilities regarding a russian connection, that disclosure to the campaign leader - the person now residing in jail - would alert him that the russian connection is under FBI investigation
do we really want the higher tier russian-connected members of the campaign to be so alerted; to then know they need to destroy the very evidence of the illicit connection that the FBI is seeking
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and you insist:
The answer is that Manafort did not hire Page, Page' s employment preceded that of Manafort s'.
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and it matters not that page, with his russian connections, was hired prior to manafort's assumption of the management of the tRump campaign
to alert manafort about page would have been to alert manafort - who is now sitting in jail due to his russian connections - about the ongoing russian investigation ... making it known to manafort that it would be a wise idea to dispose of any evidence of his/the campaign's russian connection
 
Athanasius68 said:
I am going on the assumption that Russia was screwing with the election.
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but you are making a statement that the russian government offered the dossier to hillary's campaign despite your acknowledgment that you have no knowledge of the person/organization who/which actually offered hillary said dossier

to summarize, you made that **** up
 
Athanasius68 said:
Theoretical obstruction. He also indicated those acts which work against: cooperation during the investigation and that there was no conspiracy began Trump and v Russia.
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no. the report shows the obstruction to be actual

read the report for yourself

if you want it read for you, watch this:
 
Just checking back in...so has there been any actual corroboration of this gossip? Any official statement or your know, actual journalistic evidence?
 
justabubba said:
here's what i actually posted:


and you insist:


and it matters not that page, with his russian connections, was hired prior to manafort's assumption of the management of the tRump campaign
to alert manafort about page would have been to alert manafort - who is now sitting in jail due to his russian connections - about the ongoing russian investigation ... making it known to manafort that it would be a wise idea to dispose of any evidence of his/the campaign's russian connection
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And how do you figure the FBI would have known that the campaign would hire Manafort?
 
justabubba said:
but you are making a statement that the russian government offered the dossier to hillary's campaign despite your acknowledgment that you have no knowledge of the person/organization who/which actually offered hillary said dossier

to summarize, you made that **** up
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If you wish to give Putin the benefit of the doubt, that's up to you.
 
Athanasius68 said:
And how do you figure the FBI would have known that the campaign would hire Manafort?
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who stated that the FBI knew that the campaign would hire manafort?
you keep asking questions about things never stated
 
Athanasius68 said:
If you wish to give Putin the benefit of the doubt, that's up to you.
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as you have noted, you have NO knowledge who offered the hillary campaign the dossier
 
justabubba said:
who stated that the FBI knew that the campaign would hire manafort?
you keep asking questions about things never stated
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Then what would be the reason for the FBI to not tell the campaign their concern when Page was hired?
 
justabubba said:
as you have noted, you have NO knowledge who offered the hillary campaign the dossier
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Steele did. He gathered it from anonymous (mostly) Russian sources.
You are free to give Russia the benefit of the doubt though.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Then what would be the reason for the FBI to not tell the campaign their concern when Page was hired?
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that there was a strong possibility that there were others with russian alliances besides page within the rank of tRump campaign staff
to alert the campaign would have effectively alerted any other russian infested staff to the fact that the FBI was investigating the matter
 
Athanasius68 said:
Steele did. He gathered it from anonymous (mostly) Russian sources.
You are free to give Russia the benefit of the doubt though.
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finally, this snipe hunt ends
now you state that steele is the one who offered the dossier to the hillary campaign

but let's take a look at what you stated previously:
Athanasius68 said:
1. Russia approached and helped the Clinton campaign re: The dossier.

2. Yep. And nothing was received

3. Sanctions tend to be the the argument used here. It also tends to be the only argument used.

4. Aye-- but it does. Russia is not a hermit kingdom.

5. More "try."

6. The Steele Dossier was not vetted before being used. In any event, I guess it's ok for some candidates to use annonymous Russian sources in campaigns and investigations against political opponents.
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this misrepresentation is now out there for all to see
previously, you insisted that the russian government had approached team hillary with the dossier
now readers can see that was a lie, and one known by you before you posted because you now insist it was steele who offered the dossier to the hillary campaign
 
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