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His Own Words Buries Him!

bearpoker said:
Obama was opposed by the Republican House and Senate. The press doesn't vote in congress.
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Sorry, but that is not as much as all the Dems and a lot of the Reps.

Media opposition is a real thing. It has a big effect. Trump gets it in spades. Obama never did.

You were saying?
 
Mycroft said:
Sorry, but a bunch of nonsense from the media is not a valid dispute of my contention.
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Of course it isn't for you. But it's the truth contrary to your post which is false.
 
Mycroft said:
Put up or go away.
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Mycroft said:
Trump has faced the most coordinated and intense opposition that ANY US President has had to deal with...and all the Trump haters can do is blame Trump for not getting some things done.
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Just go back to the last president.

From Day One, all the way to the last year, when Obama was denied a Supreme Court pick by MCConnell who used a completely bogus excuse.

John Boehner, Speaker of the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan; “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

And there were others who also endured undeserved scrutiny and opposition. You’re just too deep in the Kool-Aid to be able to rationally view history.
 
ataraxia said:
Reminds me: what’s going on with the opioid crisis?
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VP Pence was supposed to be here in NH addressing that very issue, with our governor Sununu, but Trump ordered him back to the White House for some kind of emergency. Trump probably couldn't figure out how to get the Big Mac out of the vending machine.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Just go back to the last president.

From Day One, all the way to the last year, when Obama was denied a Supreme Court pick by MCConnell who used a completely bogus excuse.

John Boehner, Speaker of the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan; “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

And there were others who also endured undeserved scrutiny and opposition. You’re just too deep in the Kool-Aid to be able to rationally view history.
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No matter how many times you rub their noses in that fact, they will pretend they didn't see it.
 
Mycroft said:
Sorry, but that is not as much as all the Dems and a lot of the Reps.

Media opposition is a real thing. It has a big effect. Trump gets it in spades. Obama never did.

You were saying?
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If his proposals are that unpopular, doesn't that rightly reflect on the guy just a little bit?

If a significant portion of the GOP doesn't support his agenda, maybe it wasn't the brightest idea nominating him. Something to think about for 2024, maybe.

Trump goes out of his way to make enemies in the media, even before 2016 and certainly after, and now we're confused about why he gets bad press?
 
Mycroft said:
Sorry, but that is not as much as all the Dems and a lot of the Reps.

Media opposition is a real thing. It has a big effect. Trump gets it in spades. Obama never did.

You were saying?
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Ahhh! So Trump is being foiled by the evil, all powerful press. How, exactly, does this work? Did they force some poor helpless Republican to vote against Trump?
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Just go back to the last president.

From Day One, all the way to the last year, when Obama was denied a Supreme Court pick by MCConnell who used a completely bogus excuse.

John Boehner, Speaker of the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan; “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

And there were others who also endured undeserved scrutiny and opposition. You’re just too deep in the Kool-Aid to be able to rationally view history.
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yawn...

And Trump has been under attack from Dems and Trump haters from both the House AND the Senate since BEFORE he was elected.

Face it. Obama had it easy compared to Trump.
 
WillyPete said:
If his proposals are that unpopular, doesn't that rightly reflect on the guy just a little bit?

If a significant portion of the GOP doesn't support his agenda, maybe it wasn't the brightest idea nominating him. Something to think about for 2024, maybe.

Trump goes out of his way to make enemies in the media, even before 2016 and certainly after, and now we're confused about why he gets bad press?
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It's not a "significant portion of the GOP". The GOP rank and file overwhelmingly support Trump. No...it is a small, but effective, portion of the GOP Elites...especially the ones in Congress.
 
bearpoker said:
Ahhh! So Trump is being foiled by the evil, all powerful press. How, exactly, does this work? Did they force some poor helpless Republican to vote against Trump?
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Their rumors and fake news.

Seriously...where have you been for the last four years?
 
Mycroft said:
yawn...

And Trump has been under attack from Dems and Trump haters from both the House AND the Senate since BEFORE he was elected.

Face it. Obama had it easy compared to Trump.
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Oh the poor orange bebe! All those meanies after him!
 
bearpoker said:
Oh the poor orange bebe! All those meanies after him!
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Cool. You've devolved into snark. That means you've finally accepted the fact that you got nothing else.

You are dismissed.
 
Mycroft said:
yawn...

And Trump has been under attack from Dems and Trump haters from both the House AND the Senate since BEFORE he was elected.

Face it. Obama had it easy compared to Trump.
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Face it, Trump has brought virtually all of his troubles on himself. From paying off women to protect his campaign, all the way to the current disaster at the border. The guy isn’t just a terrible leader, he’s a genuinely horrible person.

I’ve voted for Republicans and Democrats over decades, and aside from certain policies I haven’t agreed with, I can honestly say that Trump is the only politician that I’ve found to be completely repugnant as a person.
 
Mycroft said:
Their rumors and fake news.

Seriously...where have you been for the last four years?
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Demonstrate how unfavorable news coverage changed any congressional votes and prevented Trump from getting something done.
 
Mycroft said:
It's not a "significant portion of the GOP". The GOP rank and file overwhelmingly support Trump. No...it is a small, but effective, portion of the GOP Elites...especially the ones in Congress.
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This is fake news. Or, just a lie.

Please provide a list of these "effective GOP elites" in Congress who have thwarted Trump's agenda.

Even Justin Amash and Mitt Romney have supported Trump with their votes, when called for, religiously.

Trump's incredible record of legislative failure even includes the 2 years that he had BOTH houses under his control. They couldn't pass anything except for a tax cut (which has been a collosal failure, as well...as even most gopers agree in all polls).

Face it, like most Trump acolytes, you're afraid of the truth, so you make up convenient excuses (like the above) out of pure ego preservation.
 
Mycroft said:
Cool. You've devolved into snark. That means you've finally accepted the fact that you got nothing else.

You are dismissed.
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No it means I'm tired of your whining.
 
thread title: His Own Words Buries Him!

I have another "his own words bury him from today.

"if illegal immigrants are unhappy with the conditions at border facilities...just tell them not to come"

DonDon you idiot...We have been saying this for weeks if not months. You CANNOT repeat CANNOT make conditions bad enough at our border to prevent people who are being starved by a combination of Climate Change induced famine and hunger and gangs controlling the access to the remaining food from trying to get out of that situation and cross our border under terms of asylum to do it. All you are doing is punishing them for fleeing. On top of that you cut off aid to those countries when you should be increasing it.

Well done DonDon you ignorant sadistic POS. Happy Fourth of July.
 
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Mycroft said:
Trump has faced the most coordinated and intense opposition that ANY US President has had to deal with...and all the Trump haters can do is blame Trump for not getting some things done.

The fact is, it's a testament to the man's adherence to purpose that he has gotten anything done at all. If any of our previous Presidents had been faced with similar opposition, they would have given up.

Too bad, Trump haters...Trump won't give up.
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Hmm, exactly what the previous president faced and did not give up and gave Trump a good economy to boot.
 
Carleen said:
Hmm, exactly what the previous president faced and did not give up and gave Trump a good economy to boot.
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The previous President hasn't faced ANYTHING like the opposition the current President is facing.
 
Mycroft said:
It's not a "significant portion of the GOP". The GOP rank and file overwhelmingly support Trump. No...it is a small, but effective, portion of the GOP Elites...especially the ones in Congress.
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Ok, so just a significant portion of the GOP's decision-makers, then.
 
And I have yet another one for you:

President tweets today that the official statements from the Justice Dept and the Commerce Dept that they were not pursuing the addition of the Citizenship question on the Census form are FAKE NEWS.

These were official statements made by the DOJ and Commerce. Further, Commerce said they were already printing the forms!

DOJ lawyers had to crawl before a District Court Judge today, the same District Court Judge they told that the Administration would not pursue the Census question any longer and try to explain this mess.

What a cluster. What a clown show this administration is mainly because of Bozo in the WH.

So what are you saying DonDon...that you are defying the SC? That you are going to try to get DOJ and Commerce to cobble a new rational beyond the inadequate crap they tossed our the first time?

What a joke.
 
Mycroft said:
The previous President hasn't faced ANYTHING like the opposition the current President is facing.
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Previous president wasn't as hateful as Trump is. In fact, Obama was downright a person of respect.
 
jnug said:
thread title: His Own Words Buries Him!

I have another "his own words bury him from today.

"if illegal immigrants are unhappy with the conditions at border facilities...just tell them not to come"
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It's like that kid that makes you beat him up by being so weak and nerdy!

I'm not a bully! That skinny kid's a monster that must be stopped!
 
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