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    Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

    As I've brilliantly and famous stated on here many times, the familiar death spiral goes something like.

    Because of capitalism , wealth gets created. Then Democrats pounce and promise to redistribute form the wealth creators to the takers.

    The foundations for a successful society become eroded.
    The new generation raised in socialism has no incentives to work.

    It's happening before our eyes in California.

    If we elect a Democrats it will happen nationally .Socialism Didn’t Work In Sweden, And It Won’t Work In America

    "...weden stood as the world’s fourth wealthiest country nearly five decades ago. Its taxes were lower than most western countries, including the United States. The economy was deregulated, and public spending was hardly above 10 percent gross domestic product (GDP).

    But Sweden was soon teetering on the brink of collapse from its experiment with socialism."

    Free markets and small government made Sweden rich,” said Swedish economist and Cato Institute fellow Johan Norberg. “The experiment with socialism crashed us.”

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    Re: Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

    Democratic socialism is working splendidly in the Scandinavian countries.


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    Re: Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

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    Another person with no idea what socialism is, they just throw it out and look stupid

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    Re: Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    As I've brilliantly and famous stated on here many times, the familiar death spiral goes something like.

    Because of capitalism , wealth gets created. Then Democrats pounce and promise to redistribute form the wealth creators to the takers.

    The foundations for a successful society become eroded.
    The new generation raised in socialism has no incentives to work.

    It's happening before our eyes in California.

    If we elect a Democrats it will happen nationally .Socialism Didn’t Work In Sweden, And It Won’t Work In America

    "...weden stood as the world’s fourth wealthiest country nearly five decades ago. Its taxes were lower than most western countries, including the United States. The economy was deregulated, and public spending was hardly above 10 percent gross domestic product (GDP).

    But Sweden was soon teetering on the brink of collapse from its experiment with socialism."

    Free markets and small government made Sweden rich,” said Swedish economist and Cato Institute fellow Johan Norberg. “The experiment with socialism crashed us.”
    Sweden is always the country the left uses as an example that socialism works. The last few years Sweden has been moving right because they recognized it can't be sustained.

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    Re: Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Sweden is always the country the left uses as an example that socialism works. The last few years Sweden has been moving right because they recognized it can't be sustained.
    All modern developed economies of the world today have some kind of hybrid mixed economy. It's a delicate dynamic balance that must always be reexamined and revisited.

    The Soviets gave up on pure communism by the 1980s. But the US gave up on pure free markets in the late 19th century/early 20th century, the gilded age- where the ever-increasing free market demand for exploitation of child labor was becoming unacceptable, and monopolies were forming, and the increasing disparities between the extremes of wealth and poverty were proving to be socially/economically unsustainable.

    People who think pure free market capitalism works are as ignorant of history as those who still advocate for Soviet style communism. Both systems have been tried extensively and have proven to be failed experiments. Modern economies are not all some kind of hybrid system because their economists are stupid.

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    Re: Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    All modern developed economies of the world today have some kind of hybrid mixed economy. It's a delicate dynamic balance that must always be reexamined and revisited.

    The Soviets gave up on pure communism by the 1980s. But the US gave up on pure free markets in the late 19th century/early 20th century, the gilded age- where the ever-increasing free market demand for exploitation of child labor was becoming unacceptable, and monopolies were forming, and the increasing disparities between the extremes of wealth and poverty were proving to be socially/economically unsustainable.

    People who think pure free market capitalism works are as ignorant of history as those who still advocate for Soviet style communism. Both systems have been tried extensively and have proven to be failed experiments. Modern economies are not all some kind of hybrid system because their economists are stupid.
    Really? can you tell us where free market capitalism has proven to be a failed experiment?

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    Re: Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    As I've brilliantly and famous stated on here many times, the familiar death spiral goes something like.

    Because of capitalism , wealth gets created. Then Democrats pounce and promise to redistribute form the wealth creators to the takers.

    The foundations for a successful society become eroded.
    The new generation raised in socialism has no incentives to work.

    It's happening before our eyes in California.

    If we elect a Democrats it will happen nationally .Socialism Didn’t Work In Sweden, And It Won’t Work In America

    "...weden stood as the world’s fourth wealthiest country nearly five decades ago. Its taxes were lower than most western countries, including the United States. The economy was deregulated, and public spending was hardly above 10 percent gross domestic product (GDP).

    But Sweden was soon teetering on the brink of collapse from its experiment with socialism."

    Free markets and small government made Sweden rich,” said Swedish economist and Cato Institute fellow Johan Norberg. “The experiment with socialism crashed us.”
    Every single major nation that has a high quality of life has followed the same basic economic strategy: a mix of capitalism with socialism. That's true with Sweden, obviously, but also with the US. We have long had major socialistic aspects to our economy, including child labor laws, minimum wages, overtime laws, Social Security, medicare, government-run primary education, public universities, government price stabilization in various markets, tight government oversight of traditional banking, some government oversight of securities, etc. Pure socialism has never worked (or even been tried), and the same is true of pure capitalism.

    As for the idea of Sweden teetering on the brink of collapse: in many ways, they're doing better than the US. Their people live longer, healthier lives, with less violence, and a lot more free time, as well as less substance abuse and suicide. They also have about a third the public-debt/GDP ratio of the US.

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    Re: Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    Really? can you tell us where free market capitalism has proven to be a failed experiment?
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    Re: Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    Really? can you tell us where free market capitalism has proven to be a failed experiment?
    First point us to a country that has this.

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    Re: Socialism din't work in Sweden and it won't work here.

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    Really? can you tell us where free market capitalism has proven to be a failed experiment?
    The United States in the Gilded Age:

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    Child labor was only getting worse, not better, when the free market was left alone. It only got better with decent laws against it were passed.

    Ditto for monopolies.

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