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She is not my type!

Idiometer said:
When so many women have accused him of sexual misconduct, doesn't the law of averages at the least get you to thinking that this much smoke more than likely indicates a fire? With all due respect, what makes you so sure that all of them are lying? Do you just not see the possibility, even probability, that he's a sexual predator? Has he not said so himself?
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we know at least 4 or 5 of them have proven to be false by people that were there.
no the law of averages is means crap.

proof and evidence is what is required.

i never said they were lying but if i accuse someone without evidence why should anyone believe me?
 
Remember, the reason republicans make such bad arguments all the time is because they truly don't care that trump is a rapist. They just know society isn't okay with rapists so they dress that **** up and call it locker room talk, or try to discredit the raped victims.
 
KLATTU said:
As far as we know-, he wouldn't rape anybody.

Just TDS gossip until a charge is filed and sticks.
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Below is a wikipedia explanation of the accusations of sexual misconduct against Trump. Key on the last bolded paragraph as it is telling as to how Trump really feels about those accusations:

Donald Trump, an American businessman and current president of the United States, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 22 women since the 1980s.[5] Those accusations have resulted in three widely reported instances of litigation: his then-wife Ivana made a rape claim during their 1989 divorce litigation but later recanted that claim; businesswoman Jill Harth sued Trump in 1997 alleging breach of contract while also suing for nonviolent sexual harassment but withdrew the latter suit as part of a settlement for relating to the former suit; and, in 2017, former The Apprentice contestant Summer Zervos filed a defamation lawsuit after Trump called her a liar.

Two of the allegations (by Ivana Trump and Jill Harth) became public before Trump's candidacy for president, but the rest arose after a 2005 audio recording was leaked during the 2016 presidential campaign. Trump was recorded bragging that a celebrity like himself "can do anything" to women, including "just start kissing them ... I don't even wait" and "grab 'em by the *****". Trump subsequently characterized those comments as "locker room talk" and denied actually behaving that way toward women, and he also apologized for the crude language. Many of his accusers stated that Trump's denials provoked them into going public with their allegations.

Another type of accusation was made, primarily after the audio recording surfaced, by several former Miss USA and Miss Teen USA contestants, who accused Trump of entering the dressing rooms of beauty pageant contestants. Trump, who owned the Miss Universe franchise, which includes both pageants, was accused of going into dressing rooms in 1997, 2000, 2001, and 2006, while contestants were in various stages of undress. During a 2005 interview on The Howard Stern Show, Trump said that he could "get away with things like that".

Sexual misconduct allegations have been made against Trump by at least 22 women. Trump has denied the allegations, saying that he has been the victim of media bias, conspiracies, and a political smear campaign. In October 2016, Trump publicly vowed to sue all of the women who have made allegations of sexual assault (i.e. non-consensual kissing or groping) or sexual harassment against him, as well as The New York Times for publishing the allegations, but he has yet to follow through with legal action.
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and by the way, up to today none of those accusers have recanted their allegations or been proven to have lied.
 
ludin said:
cry more OMG. the amount of butthurt is amazing.
have you guys not learned your lesson about unfounded allegations yet?
i guess not.
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Yes, we did, actually with all the unfounded allegations against Democrats starting with the Clintons (Vince Foster) in the 90's continuing on through bitherism and pizzagate in the present. We are very, very familiar with unfounded allegations - all made by people on the right.

Please explain how you know this current accusers allegations are unfounded or just admit you admire rapists and hate women.
 
Luckyone said:
First of all, the statement is an oxymoron given that the first part is about respect and the second part is about disrespect. That, in and of itself, shows a man that cannot say anything without calling himself a liar right after.

Nonetheless, the statement about "she is not my type" is a great lie.

Below is a picture of Jean Carrol when she was young (she is now 75) and a picture of Trump's ex-wife Ivana. I would venture to say they look very much alike with perhaps Jean Carroll slightly more attractive. Don't you agree?

E. Jean Carroll:
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Ivana Trump:
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One more lie from the pathological liar?
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ludin said:
cry more OMG. the amount of butthurt is amazing.
have you guys not learned your lesson about unfounded allegations yet?
i guess not.
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lurchadams said:
Yes, we did, actually with all the unfounded allegations against Democrats starting with the Clintons (Vince Foster) in the 90's continuing on through bitherism and pizzagate in the present. We are very, very familiar with unfounded allegations - all made by people on the right.

Please explain how you know this current accusers allegations are unfounded or just admit you admire rapists and hate women.
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They are unfounded because Trump commanded ludin to say that they are unfounded.

This stuff only matters when a Dem is accused. And despite the hypocrisy of always defending the R while assuming guilt of the D, the D's still end up going down in flames. Like Franken. Like that "Hollywood Liberal" Weinstein.

We see what lies in their hearts.
 
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lurchadams said:
Yes, we did, actually with all the unfounded allegations against Democrats starting with the Clintons (Vince Foster) in the 90's continuing on through bitherism and pizzagate in the present. We are very, very familiar with unfounded allegations - all made by people on the right.

Please explain how you know this current accusers allegations are unfounded or just admit you admire rapists and hate women.
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it isn't up to me to prove themselves they are the ones making the allegations until they have proof and evidence
then it is nothing more than unfounded.

once they provide proof evidence possible witnesses then it moves to corroborated.

the rest for your unfounded allegations directed at me is just as much trash as the anything else
and only prove that you are incapable of actual discussion.
 
Mr Person said:
They are unfounded because Trump commanded ludin to say that they are unfounded.

This stuff only matters when a Dem is accused. And despite the hypocrisy of always defending the R while assuming guilt of the D, the D's still end up going down in flames. Like Franken. Like that "Hollywood Liberal" Weinstein.

We see what lies in their hearts.
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for a lawyer you should know better.
so again i have to question what you say you are.

a claim or accusation is only true if there is evidence to support such claim.

as a lawyer if i come and say my neighbor killed my dog but i can offer no evidence to support that he killed my dog then well you are not going to take my case.
however if i have camera's around my home that show him putting poison or other substances around my yard that my dog gets into then i have proof and evidence
that he killed my dog.

well your crap theory is wrong.

I don't care about R's and D's like you do. what i care about is evidence and proof of wrongdoing.
until there is proof of evidence more than just mere accusation then there is nothing.

all people are doing is screaming it's a witch it's a witch.

the only person to try and file a actual claim against trump has had it thrown out of court 3 times.

show me proof and show me evidence and i will condemn it just like anyone else.
that is how our systems works.

we did away with witch trials for a reason. as a lawyer you should know this.

if someone accuses you of something don't you want that person to have proof that you did it or
should we just hang you not and worry about the details later?
 
Mr Person said:
They are unfounded because Trump commanded ludin to say that they are unfounded.

This stuff only matters when a Dem is accused. And despite the hypocrisy of always defending the R while assuming guilt of the D, the D's still end up going down in flames. Like Franken. Like that "Hollywood Liberal" Weinstein.

We see what lies in their hearts.
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ludin said:
for a lawyer you should know better.
so again i have to question what you say you are.

a claim or accusation is only true if there is evidence to support such claim.

as a lawyer if i come and say my neighbor killed my dog but i can offer no evidence to support that he killed my dog then well you are not going to take my case.
however if i have camera's around my home that show him putting poison or other substances around my yard that my dog gets into then i have proof and evidence
that he killed my dog.

well your crap theory is wrong.

I don't care about R's and D's like you do. what i care about is evidence and proof of wrongdoing.
until there is proof of evidence more than just mere accusation then there is nothing.

all people are doing is screaming it's a witch it's a witch.

the only person to try and file a actual claim against trump has had it thrown out of court 3 times.

show me proof and show me evidence and i will condemn it just like anyone else.
that is how our systems works.

we did away with witch trials for a reason. as a lawyer you should know this.

if someone accuses you of something don't you want that person to have proof that you did it or
should we just hang you not and worry about the details later?
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Oh, look who's trying to play expert again while saying the dumbest **** imaginable. It's ludin, doing it again.

Clue: testimony under oath is evidence. Sworn statements are "evidence". And the vast majority of criminal rape cases are decided by he said/she said.

Will there be a criminal trial? Probably not. But guess what, Mr. Darrow, whether or not one supports a politician has nothing to do with the standards of evidence in criminal trials in which the government seeks to strip a citizen of his freedoms. There is no "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" here.

Oh, I've got another: guess what, everyone who's been around the internet for more than ten seconds knows exactly what a poster/commenter is doing when they demand "evidence". Specifically, they're betting that there isn't a publicly available pile of "evidence" backing up a newly made accusation, and if they're wrong they simply intend to claim that it isn't enough evidence or make up some new personal standard of what counts as "evidence."

But as always, you make a big show of stamping your feet and missing the point: you and the rest of Trump's defenders uniformly attack anyone who accuses a GOP politician and lionize anyone who accuses a Dem politician. You assume innocence in the former. You assume guilt in the latter. And you're only fooling yourselves. The trouble is that with enough of you happy to lie to each other for political purposes, you make an occasionally formidable foe, but only in the sense of Might Makes Right.

You love a "witch hunt" when its aimed at your political foe, laughably unconvincing denial of partisanship by Trumpist aside.
 
Mr Person said:
Oh, look who's trying to play expert again while saying the dumbest **** imaginable. It's ludin, doing it again.

Clue: testimony under oath is evidence. Sworn statements are "evidence". And the vast majority of criminal rape cases are decided by he said/she said.
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actually no. most rape cases they have DNA, finger prints, they have other evidence sources or witnesses that corroborate what is being said.
No one should ever be convicted on he/she said. that in no way meets the burden of proof unless there is an absolute positive identification.

she said he did it he said he didnt' until she can prove other wise he is innocent of any accusation. so you fail yet again.

Will there be a criminal trial? Probably not. But guess what, Mr. Darrow, whether or not one supports a politician has nothing to do with the standards of evidence in criminal trials in which the government seeks to strip a citizen of his freedoms. There is no "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" here.
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which is anti-american and anti-freedom.

Oh, I've got another: guess what, everyone who's been around the internet for more than ten seconds knows exactly what a poster/commenter is doing when they demand "evidence". Specifically, they're betting that there isn't a publicly available pile of "evidence" backing up a newly made accusation, and if they're wrong they simply intend to claim that it isn't enough evidence or make up some new personal standard of what counts as "evidence."
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Umm asking for proof of accusation is the very base level of discussion anyone that has been around any kind of honest discussion for more than 10 seconds knows this already.
and you are wrong again. if there is evidence i will be happy to condemn it. unlike you who just accepts whatever accusation is thrown out there.

i hope no one uses your standard against you one day or else you will just have to plead guilty of whatever it is they accuse you of.

But as always, you make a big show of stamping your feet and missing the point: you and the rest of Trump's defenders uniformly attack anyone who accuses a GOP politician and lionize anyone who accuses a Dem politician. You assume innocence in the former. You assume guilt in the latter. And you're only fooling yourselves. The trouble is that with enough of you happy to lie to each other for political purposes, you make an occasionally formidable foe, but only in the sense of Might Makes Right.

You love a "witch hunt" when its aimed at your political foe, laughably unconvincing denial of partisanship by Trumpist aside.
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Actually i don't there is a republican right now that is being charged with massive campaign fincanial laws and using funds for personal use.
i am 100% behind him going to jail when the prove it. he should be arrested and put on trial and evidence presented.

if guilty i have no issue with him going to jail and by the looks of it he is.

so again your pathetic leftist crack pot theories are wrong.
 
Its amazing how the wingnuts believe Anita Brodderick, but not one single accuser of their cult leader Trump?
 
ludin said:
we know at least 4 or 5 of them have proven to be false by people that were there.
no the law of averages is means crap.

proof and evidence is what is required.

i never said they were lying but if i accuse someone without evidence why should anyone believe me?
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Isn't Trump admitting, on tape, to feeling-up women because they 'let' him, evidence enough?
 
snakestretcher said:
Unfounded allegations? When Trump's own words admit to feeling-up women, "they let you grab them by the *****", are a clear indication of the scumbags perversion? Get your head out of the sand.
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Given Don's daily tantrum that is reported so feverishly everyday, it's so easy to focus on Don and not his excusers. I now realize that they ever buried their heads to begin with and they never will. It literally doesn't matter how low he'll go. It wouldn't matter if pics leaked showing him bent over the Resolute desk with Putin having at it. They made a strategic decision to give up their morality for political objectives.

"He might stretch the truth"
"He may not be a role model to my kids"
"I might not agree with his treatment of women"
"He’s not a perfect candidate, no candidate ever is"

"BUT he makes me feel safe"
"BUT he gives the people a voice"
"BUT it’s the Supreme Court, stupid"
"BUT he's going to stop the invasion"
"BUT he talks like me and doesn't gussy it up"
"BUT he’s undone so much of the damage Obama did”
"BUT he says what he thinks, whether or not he offends anybody"

They knew what kind of man he was and yet they knowingly made a Faustian bargain. One that they'll regret in the long run...

"..The party that was not so long ago led by the likes of Mitt Romney, John McCain, and George W. Bush will again be guided by figures of virtue. They will need men and women of moral fiber in their ranks.

There will be a time after Trump. The conservative movement had better be prepared for it."
 
Trump's response that she wasn't his type is no surprise, typical for him to act like he wouldn't even have been interested in her. In his mind, it lets him keep his "cool". After observing him during his campaign and while in office, he's an easy read, nothing his says can surprise me, I just wish he would speak less.
 
nota bene said:
Just for fun, why not compare Carroll's claims to Juanita Broaddrick's? Juanita Broaddrick - Wikipedia
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Just noting that the conservatives will always believe something against a democrat, but never against their cult leader....

As for Broaddrick, by all means, it should be looked into and taken seriously.
 
ludin said:
it isn't up to me to prove themselves they are the ones making the allegations until they have proof and evidence
then it is nothing more than unfounded.

once they provide proof evidence possible witnesses then it moves to corroborated.

the rest for your unfounded allegations directed at me is just as much trash as the anything else
and only prove that you are incapable of actual discussion.
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Oh, I'm plenty capable of actual discussions. For example, in a rape situation the only witness the victim. You're claiming her allegations are "unfounded" without having a clue what you're talking about. Your hatred of women and love of a heinous jerk like trump are obviously clouding your already terrible judgement.
 
beefheart said:
Just noting that the conservatives will always believe something against a democrat, but never against their cult leader....

As for Broaddrick, by all means, it should be looked into and taken seriously.
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I'll just note that when you overgeneralize about any group, e.g. conservatives, you lose credibility.
 
nota bene said:
I'll just note that when you overgeneralize about any group, e.g. conservatives, you lose credibility.
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So, you don't believe any of the 16 women who have made claims against Trump, but you believe Juanita.

right....
 
nota bene said:
I'll just note that when you overgeneralize about any group, e.g. conservatives, you lose credibility.
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Miss Note, I'm curious how you feel about trump's defence when denying the allegation saying that, "she's not my type".

Are you not at least a little bit ashamed of him for saying that? Think about how rape survivors all over the world must have felt when they heard that!
 
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j brown's body said:
Wow, another woman who accused him of rape. I guess there really is a type, for him.

Trump is under the impression that given the right type of woman, its only natural to engage in rape.

That's kind of a problem.
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Yes, but I'm sure if they're forced to admit it, we'll find out that rape is normal locker room behavior for much of Trump's base, so Trump was doing nothing wrong.

We've been through this once before.
 
snakestretcher said:
Isn't Trump admitting, on tape, to feeling-up women because they 'let' him, evidence enough?
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That's normal locker room behavior for much of Trump's base. Remember?
 
Mr Person said:
They are unfounded because Trump commanded ludin to say that they are unfounded.

This stuff only matters when a Dem is accused. And despite the hypocrisy of always defending the R while assuming guilt of the D, the D's still end up going down in flames. Like Franken. Like that "Hollywood Liberal" Weinstein.

We see what lies in their hearts.
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It's sad when ludin responds in posts the way he does. I think his desire to troll people who are disgusted by trump and other alt-right scumbags behavior clouds his ability to behave decently.
 
Luckyone said:
First of all, the statement is an oxymoron given that the first part is about respect and the second part is about disrespect. That, in and of itself, shows a man that cannot say anything without calling himself a liar right after.

Nonetheless, the statement about "she is not my type" is a great lie.

Below is a picture of Jean Carrol when she was young (she is now 75) and a picture of Trump's ex-wife Ivana. I would venture to say they look very much alike with perhaps Jean Carroll slightly more attractive. Don't you agree?

E. Jean Carroll:

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Ivana Trump:

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One more lie from the pathological liar?
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Didn't he divorce Ivana? Guess she wasn't his type. :lamo
 
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