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This is Why Electing Trump Was a Bad Idea

Mycroft said:
That's the difference between Trump and Obama.

Obama gave them "their" money...conveniently right before the court awarded that money to American victims...for a deal that only kicked the can down the road.

Trump would have used "their" money as leverage to get them to abandon nuclear weapons...and THEN the courts could have awarded the money to the American victims.
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You are forgetting that our allies were part of the deal, and, of course, what a great way to try to establish trust, double cross both allies and Iran, sort of like Hitler and Munich. And no reason for Iran to go nuclear afterwards. This was not one of the great Trump real estate deals, though I imagine you could have taken a course in it in Trump U.
 
iguanaman said:
Are you saying that there are no extenuating circumstances that Trump has created for these poor souls? That is ridiculous. They are being told that Trump is building a wall and it is now or never to leave.
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Iranians? "poor souls"???

Utter nonsense.
 
Nickyjo said:
You are forgetting that our allies were part of the deal, and, of course, what a great way to try to establish trust, double cross both allies and Iran, sort of like Hitler and Munich. And no reason for Iran to go nuclear afterwards. This was not one of the great Trump real estate deals, though I imagine you could have taken a course in it in Trump U.
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Trump does not have to honor a deal constructed by Obama.
 
Deuce said:
A bunch of right wingers clicked "like" on this post because not one of them took two seconds to think about how stupid your post is. That's how right wingers work.

Pointing out that Trump has alienated allies and this makes it harder for us to deal with Iran is not "rooting for Iran," and I don't know why you felt it was necessary to tell such a stupid lie.

Except it wasn't a lie, per se, because you didn't know what you posted was stupid and wrong, did you?
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Nope! Not wrong. Liberals always paint Trump in the negative light. You bash him every chance you get, he’s the leader of this nation. It is not a lie when you root against him you root against this nation and for the other nation ie Iran.
 
Mycroft said:
Trump does not have to honor a deal constructed by Obama.
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LOL The Iran deal was a joint effort agreed to by our allies too. Of course our alliances mean nothing to you or Trump.
 
Crystal said:
Nope! Not wrong. Liberals always paint Trump in the negative light. You bash him every chance you get, he’s the leader of this nation. It is not a lie when you root against him you root against this nation and for the other nation ie Iran.
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LOL Presidents make mistakes too. Stop acting like he is some sort of God. He isn't. Americans don't act that way. You sound like a foreigner to me. He will be gone soon and what will you do then?
 
iguanaman said:
LOL The Iran deal was a joint effort agreed to by our allies too. Of course our alliances mean nothing to you or Trump.
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A bad deal is a bad deal, no matter who signed on to it.
 
iguanaman said:
LOL Presidents make mistakes too. Stop acting like he is some sort of God. He isn't. Americans don't act that way. You sound like a foreigner to me. He will be gone soon and what will you do then?
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Nope! I am American and would never treat a President the way liberal assholes do.
 
iguanaman said:
I did not compare Trump to Hitler but he is using similar tactics to rile up his base as many demagogues have done thru out history. Demonizing a racial or religious group and blaming them for all his followers troubles. You can't tell me that he is not doing that.
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I agree that is what he is doing and I dislike it intensely. Perhaps I am overly sensitive about Hitler comments as he and his hoard wiped out a large part of my family that did not make it out of Europe.
 
washunut said:
I agree that is what he is doing and I dislike it intensely. Perhaps I am overly sensitive about Hitler comments as he and his hoard wiped out a large part of my family that did not make it out of Europe.
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I'm sorry about your family, but bad things happening to one group of people doesn't mean what's happening to someone else isn't bad, too. It seems you actually do realize this, though, so I'll leave it at that.
 
Mycroft said:
A bad deal is a bad deal, no matter who signed on to it.
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That so called "bad deal" was the best chance of preventing Iran from making nukes. They made considerable concessions that undeniably set back their program years. It is very likely they would be a nuclear power today if not for the agreement. Trump is making it difficult for them not to regret it and is empowering the hardliners who claimed they could not trust America. How is that a good deal?
 
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iguanaman said:
That so called "bad deal" was the best chance of preventing Iran from making nukes. They made considerable concessions that undeniably set back their program years. It is very likely they would be a nuclear power today if not for the agreement. Trump is making it difficult for them not to regret it and is empowering the hardliners who claimed they could not trust America. How is that a good deal?
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That bad deal did nothing to prevent Iran from making nukes. It just kicked the nuclear can down the road.
 
Mycroft said:
That bad deal did nothing to prevent Iran from making nukes. It just kicked the nuclear can down the road.
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That is B.S. The got rid of their enriched uranium, filled a plutonium reactor with cement and mothballed their centrifuges. All agencies agreed they were complying fully. Trump is kicking them for doing all that and making them regret not just making the nukes. Now they can't be stopped either.
 
Mycroft said:
Bad deals should be trashed. Just like that Paris thing.
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Because you and Trump know what deals are bad and our allies are all idiots. That is tragedy class hubris in action.
 
iguanaman said:
That is B.S. The got rid of their enriched uranium, filled a plutonium reactor with cement and mothballed their centrifuges. All agencies agreed they were complying fully. Trump is kicking them for doing all that and making them regret not just making the nukes. Now they can't be stopped either.
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They didn't get rid of all their enriched uranium. Anything mothballed can be un-mothballed.

What part of "kicked the nuclear can down the road" do you not understand? Obama's deal did NOTHING to prevent Iran from attaining nuclear weapons. And, in the meantime, they've been working on their delivery systems.
 
iguanaman said:
Because you and Trump know what deals are bad and our allies are all idiots. That is tragedy class hubris in action.
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Everyone knew Obama's deal was a bad one BEFORE he made it.
 
Crystal said:
Nope! Not wrong. Liberals always paint Trump in the negative light. You bash him every chance you get, he’s the leader of this nation. It is not a lie when you root against him you root against this nation and for the other nation ie Iran.
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So, all of your criticisms of Obama were supporting Iran. Got it.
 
Deuce said:
So, all of your criticisms of Obama were supporting Iran. Got it.
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Big difference. I did not bash Obama with every breath.
 
Mycroft said:
They didn't get rid of all their enriched uranium. Anything mothballed can be un-mothballed.

What part of "kicked the nuclear can down the road" do you not understand? Obama's deal did NOTHING to prevent Iran from attaining nuclear weapons. And, in the meantime, they've been working on their delivery systems.
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It turns out they were right to keep their stuff ready since Trump decided they did not have to stop making nukes after all. That was what the agreement was about and Trump tore it up. Why is getting rid of all their highly enriched uranium and filling a reactor with cement "kicking the can down the road"? They were fully complying with the deal until Trump decided they didn't need to.
 
Mycroft said:
Everyone knew Obama's deal was a bad one BEFORE he made it.
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No they did not. The only thing wrong with the deal was that Obama made it. Just like the ACA. You have zero credibility just like your dear leader and "make him a one term President" Mitch. You hate everything Obama because he is black.... we get it.
 
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