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This is now 16 Women that have Accused Trump of Sexual Attacks

Legally that is true. Common sense would say otherwise.

When picking a president, common sense is much more important than legally. We want a moral person as the head of our country, not a thief that has not been convicted. Don't you agree?

I agree that common sense isn't all that common.

It's true that very often where there's smoke, there's fire--hence, the saying. But because there is smoke, we don't decide without proof that there is fire.

Has President Trump been convicted of theft?
 
=Democrats are the biggest suckers on the planet. I guess her releasing her book has nothing to do with it or the fact she claimed to be raped in a public place yet she didn't call out for help or the fact she doesn't have a single witness to put them together in this department store including cameras to validate her story. We all love the fact how Liberals say accusations are now convictions.

Why is it none of these alleged rape victims from 20-30 years ago ever made a claim, a report, have a witness, told a friend or family member (Not one) but they all came out when Trump run for president because. Oh, I got it, Trump said a dirty word so he must be a serial rapist. Only in the Liberal world would you even think of supporting such idiocy.

It didn't work against Kavanaugh and it didn't work against Trump in 2016 so lets do the same thing over and over looking for a different result.

How do you get suckered in so easily? I mean, you gotta want to be suckered in to buy something so obviously stupid.

Y'all are pushing hard on the Bill Cosby defense. But this isn't a stand alone case, there's an ever growing group alleging misdeeds. Of course, if Trump were a Democrat, you'd be calling for his arrest.

With so many women coming forward, it seems to warrant investigation.
 
I agree that common sense isn't all that common.

It's true that very often where there's smoke, there's fire--hence, the saying. But because there is smoke, we don't decide without proof that there is fire.

Has President Trump been convicted of theft?

Trump has not yet been convicted of anything other than in the court of public opinion and then only by a bit more than half of the jurors. Nonetheless, there is enough evidence shown to prove he has certainly not been a moral man. I personally do not want an immoral man in charge of what happens to me, my family, my friends, my community and my nation.
 
The harsh reality is the only ones that care are those already politically opposed to whom is being accused. Trump supporters do not care about the accusations against him, similar story about Biden and just about anyone else.

This is our new political norm.

Its not that people 'dont care' its that people dont believe the accusation. Theres a big difference.
 
Trump has not yet been convicted of anything other than in the court of public opinion and then only by a bit more than half of the jurors. Nonetheless, there is enough evidence shown to prove he has certainly not been a moral man. I personally do not want an immoral man in charge of what happens to me, my family, my friends, my community and my nation.

And his 'not being a moral man' is not evidence that this womans accusation is true. She doesnt need to prove her claim to the left, they will believe anything that casts Trump in a negative light. I am going to need a little more
 
And his 'not being a moral man' is not evidence that this womans accusation is true. She doesnt need to prove her claim to the left, they will believe anything that casts Trump in a negative light. I am going to need a little more

See the OP link regarding the percentage of false claims made in rape cases. It is less than 5%. As I stated in another post, with 19 cases of women accusing Trump of sexual misconduct, the odds are stacked heavily against him being innocent of all of them. Just one case would make him a sexual predator.
 
See the OP link regarding the percentage of false claims made in rape cases. It is less than 5%. As I stated in another post, with 19 cases of women accusing Trump of sexual misconduct, the odds are stacked heavily against him being innocent of all of them. Just one case would make him a sexual predator.

Sexual misconduct and rape are two different things. And his being guilty of every other accusation doesnt make him guilty here. There are lots of bad people out there but we dont throw them in jail for being bad but because we have evidence of guilt. What evidence is there that this latest claim against Trump is true?
 
Sexual misconduct and rape are two different things. And his being guilty of every other accusation doesnt make him guilty here. There are lots of bad people out there but we dont throw them in jail for being bad but because we have evidence of guilt. What evidence is there that this latest claim against Trump is true?

No evidence has yet been required as none of these accusers have decided to take him to court or accuse him legally. Nonetheless, history shows us that percentages do not favor those accused being innocent. This does not mean that all accusations are true as people do lie (perfect example is Trump himself lying over 10,000 times in 28 months) but when you get down to 19 accusations by different people over a period of time and about a person that has clearly shown and stated that he is aggressive with women, common sense would suggest that it is virtually impossible for all 19 accusations to be false.

It is as simple as that. There are no occasions where 19 coincidences of the same nature occur without there being a real underlying problem.
 
No evidence has yet been required as none of these accusers have decided to take him to court or accuse him legally. Nonetheless, history shows us that percentages do not favor those accused being innocent. This does not mean that all accusations are true as people do lie (perfect example is Trump himself lying over 10,000 times in 28 months) but when you get down to 19 accusations by different people over a period of time and about a person that has clearly shown and stated that he is aggressive with women, common sense would suggest that it is virtually impossible for all 19 accusations to be false.

It is as simple as that. There are no occasions where 19 coincidences of the same nature occur without there being a real underlying problem.

19 lies are still 19 lies...simple as that:lol:
 
No evidence has yet been required as none of these accusers have decided to take him to court or accuse him legally. Nonetheless, history shows us that percentages do not favor those accused being innocent. This does not mean that all accusations are true as people do lie (perfect example is Trump himself lying over 10,000 times in 28 months) but when you get down to 19 accusations by different people over a period of time and about a person that has clearly shown and stated that he is aggressive with women, common sense would suggest that it is virtually impossible for all 19 accusations to be false.

It is as simple as that. There are no occasions where 19 coincidences of the same nature occur without there being a real underlying problem.

It could be 2 million women.....but trumpers will defend him
 
Actually, almost all of them (if not all) made comments to friends and/or family at the time. The newest one Jean Carroll goes on to say:



By the way, both of those friends have confirmed she told them of the incident at the time it happened.


If you really care (instead of blindly defending him) and do the research, you will find that most of the accusations (if not all) were at least reported to family or friends at the time.

One of the main reasons given by almost all the women for not reporting it to the police is that Trump was a celebrity (not likely they would be believed), had over 200 lawyers working for him and was suing everyone that disagreed with him and those odds are difficult to go against by a single woman.

You also need to consider that this is not just one or two women but 19 women and to be innocent of so many is totally against realistic odds, especially when his own wife once accused him of raping here. She certainly was not looking for fame and fortune.

You guys really are defending a man that is clearly showing his tendencies toward this in most everything he does.

It does not matter how many "friends or family" one may have told. Why? Their story may be a complete fabrication. People often exaggerate the encounters they have with "famous" people. Over time, depending on their feelings for such individuals, the stories may grow in the telling.

Now I don't know if any of these stories are true or not. What I do hold to is that a person should be presumed INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty. That does not mean they are, in fact, innocent.

It just means if you don't at least bring charges to seek to show guilt, then IMO your naked allegation remains just that...an unproven assertion and the accused retains the benefit of the doubt.
 
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No evidence has yet been required as none of these accusers have decided to take him to court or accuse him legally. Nonetheless, history shows us that percentages do not favor those accused being innocent. This does not mean that all accusations are true as people do lie (perfect example is Trump himself lying over 10,000 times in 28 months) but when you get down to 19 accusations by different people over a period of time and about a person that has clearly shown and stated that he is aggressive with women, common sense would suggest that it is virtually impossible for all 19 accusations to be false.

It is as simple as that. There are no occasions where 19 coincidences of the same nature occur without there being a real underlying problem.

As you say, "No evidence...." Innocent until proven guilty.
 
No evidence has yet been required as none of these accusers have decided to take him to court or accuse him legally. Nonetheless, history shows us that percentages do not favor those accused being innocent. This does not mean that all accusations are true as people do lie (perfect example is Trump himself lying over 10,000 times in 28 months) but when you get down to 19 accusations by different people over a period of time and about a person that has clearly shown and stated that he is aggressive with women, common sense would suggest that it is virtually impossible for all 19 accusations to be false.

It is as simple as that. There are no occasions where 19 coincidences of the same nature occur without there being a real underlying problem.

The question is, are this womans accusations factual. You have zero evidence that they are. You cant argue that similar accusations, that havent been proven, lend any weight to this accusation. If she has no evidence that this attack occurred, there is no reason to believe that it did.
 
The question is, are this womans accusations factual. You have zero evidence that they are. You cant argue that similar accusations, that havent been proven, lend any weight to this accusation. If she has no evidence that this attack occurred, there is no reason to believe that it did.

24 women. 2 have filed suit.

24!!!!!!
 
Wonder if CNN can find a "New" creepy porn lawyer to rep this claim.

Try harder Dems...
 
That doesnt make this womans story factual. It has to stand or fall of its own weight. Where is her evidence?

I guess you could read the lawsuit
 
Wonder if CNN can find a "New" creepy porn lawyer to rep this claim.

Try harder Dems...

How many women accused Obama of sexual misconduct?


Asking for a friend
 
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