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Former Dep NSA Ben Rhodes interesting insight on Trump / Iran situation

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Trump isn't the brightest bulb in the situation room, notwithstanding Bolton wants regime change in Iran.

Hearing this really is scary, given who we have at the helm, who, as some close to him have asserted, "what a moron".

 
OscarLevant said:
Trump isn't the brightest bulb in the situation room, notwithstanding Bolton wants regime change in Iran.

Hearing this really is scary, given who we have at the helm, who, as some close to him have asserted, "what a moron".
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I'd rather have a Churchill in the WH than the Chamberlain we've had with the last administration.
 
You mean this Ben Rhodes??

Example #1 was revealed earlier this year, when Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes — the brother of CBS News President David Rhodes — literally bragged to the New York Times how easy it was for the administration to dupe reporters when shaping a narrative to their liking.

"All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus," Rhodes told the Times in May. "Now they don't. They call us to explain to them what's happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That's a sea change."

"They literally know nothing."

"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old...They literally know nothing.”
--Ben Rhodes, Obama Deputy National Security Advisor
— Larry Elder (@larryelder) May 6, 2016

Where's the outrage over Obama's fake news peddling? | TheHill
 
Mycroft said:
I'd rather have a Churchill in the WH than the Chamberlain we've had with the last administration.
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He and Biden were worse than Chamberlain. They gave up a huge pile of cash and signed an agreement that did nothing for this country's security.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
You mean this Ben Rhodes??

Example #1 was revealed earlier this year, when Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes — the brother of CBS News President David Rhodes — literally bragged to the New York Times how easy it was for the administration to dupe reporters when shaping a narrative to their liking.

"All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus," Rhodes told the Times in May. "Now they don't. They call us to explain to them what's happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That's a sea change."

"They literally know nothing."

"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old...They literally know nothing.”
--Ben Rhodes, Obama Deputy National Security Advisor
— Larry Elder (@larryelder) May 6, 2016

Where's the outrage over Obama's fake news peddling? | TheHill
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I see him stating facts, not bragging. Could you post the quote where he's bragging about fake news or any of the other phoney bull**** you made up?
 
roughdraft274 said:
I see him stating facts, not bragging. Could you post the quote where he's bragging about fake news or any of the other phoney bull**** you made up?
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Uh. The thing he was bragging about was how easy it was to get reporters to run with fake news, specifically to sell the Iran Deal.

And before he somehow wound up as Deputy National Security Advisor the guy was a speechwriter.
 
OscarLevant said:
Trump isn't the brightest bulb in the situation room, notwithstanding Bolton wants regime change in Iran.

Hearing this really is scary, given who we have at the helm, who, as some close to him have asserted, "what a moron".

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Regime change is what we're all about. I mean, what could go wrong?
 
WCH said:
He and Biden were worse than Chamberlain. They gave up a huge pile of cash and signed an agreement that did nothing for this country's security.
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An agreement that the current administration got out of and are now bashing Iran for not following the agreement we got out of. You get a 10 for those mental gymnastics. This is nothing other than an absolute failure by the Trump admin in every which way possible.
 
Mycroft said:
I'd rather have a Churchill in the WH than the Chamberlain we've had with the last administration.
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You should really go look up "Chamberlain" in a history book so you don't embarrass yourself by trying to reference him.
 
cpwill said:
Uh. The thing he was bragging about was how easy it was to get reporters to run with fake news, specifically to sell the Iran Deal.

And before he somehow wound up as Deputy National Security Advisor the guy was a speechwriter.
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Then post a quote where he got reporters to run with "fake news" or "lies". He never said anything about twisting factual information.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I see him stating facts, not bragging. Could you post the quote where he's bragging about fake news or any of the other phoney bull**** you made up?
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Try reading the post again...... Maybe you will understand it then? ?? I did not make up anything, it's from the Hill.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Try reading the post again...... Maybe you will understand it then? ?? I did not make up anything, it's from the Hill.
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Sincerest apologies. I incorrectly attributed those stupid comments to you when in reality you were merely quoting those stupid comments to try to suggest they were correct.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Then post a quote where he got reporters to run with "fake news" or "lies". He never said anything about twisting factual information.
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See those words that are in blue, and underlined?
 
cpwill said:
See those words that are in blue, and underlined?
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I clicked the link. The title doesn't accurately portray what he really said. Like I said, post a quote and show me where he bragged about twisting factual information or fake news. So far all I see is that he said he was able to get there messaging out about whether something is good or bad through inexperienced reporters. That's not fake news.
 
Mycroft said:
I'd rather have a Churchill in the WH than the Chamberlain we've had with the last administration.
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Trump is no Churchill.
 
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WCH said:
He and Biden were worse than Chamberlain. They gave up a huge pile of cash and signed an agreement that did nothing for this country's security.
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The nuclear community, and heads of state, disagree with you.


Iran nuclear deal framework - Wikipedia

...agreement reached in 2015 between the Islamic Republic of Iran and a group of world powers: the P5+1 (the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council—the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European Union.
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We stalled Iran from accelerating it's nuke program by some 15 years. it took a long time to get that agreement signed, and there were many parties to it. Trump is incapable of doing anything similar in it's scope, he doesn't even read.


The cash was theirs, not ours, it was a condition to release their own money back to them. It had to be cash, as there were sanctions involving the banks in question, so cash was the only way to get it back to them.

Now that Trump has pulled out of that agreement, other countries now understand that America doesn't keep it's agreements, so how can a future president make agreements now?

Our current president is a moron, and some key staffers ( Kelley, Tillerson ) have so stated.
 
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roughdraft274 said:
An agreement that the current administration got out of and are now bashing Iran for not following the agreement we got out of. You get a 10 for those mental gymnastics. This is nothing other than an absolute failure by the Trump admin in every which way possible.
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Yea, according to every other Leftist today....this was foreseeable. You people are in such lockstep when it comes to fake news rhetoric. That IS foreseeable.
 
OscarLevant said:
The nuclear community, and heads of state, disagree with you.




We stalled Iran from accelerating it's nuke program by some 15 years. it took a long time to get that agreement signed, and there were many parties to it. Trump is incapable of doing anything similar in it's scope, he doesn't even read.


The cash was theirs, not ours, it was a condition to release their own money back to them. It had to be cash, as there were sanctions involving the banks in question, so cash was the only way to get it back to them.

Now that Trump has pulled out of that agreement, other countries now understand that America doesn't keep it's agreements, so how can a future president make agreements now?

Our current president is a moron, and some key staffers ( Kelley, Tillerson ) have so stated.
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Listen to you. You should run as a Democrat or something. You already have your lines rehearsed.
 
WCH said:
Yea, according to every other Leftist today....this was foreseeable. You people are in such lockstep when it comes to fake news rhetoric. That IS foreseeable.
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What did I say was foreseeable? You're post is poorly worded and needs clarification.
 
Obama delivers pallet full of cash tries to buy peace.....and how's that working for us

Obama and George W what complete morons in ME policy
 
WCH said:
He and Biden were worse than Chamberlain. They gave up a huge pile of cash and signed an agreement that did nothing for this country's security.
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I mean, if you ignore everything about history and facts, sure.
 
WCH said:
Listen to you. You should run as a Democrat or something. You already have your lines rehearsed.
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Feel free to offer a rebuttal with some substance, as such just might forward the discourse.
 
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