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Fact check: Trump, 15 false claims over 76 minutes

OlNate said:
No, I'm trying to understand why you said "enough said" when you didn't say anything. I'm trying to figure out your position, and you keep ducking and dodging.

Why so defensive? Did I miss a post? Last I read, you didn't answer the questions at all, you just said something about Fox, and stomped off...my apologies if I missed a post, I can't find it. :)

One more time, because I'm interested in understanding you, my friend... Are you saying that the things CNN is saying are lies are true, or are you saying that Trump didn't say those things at his rally?
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Save your energy. She knows she's wrong. Her M.O. is to post drive-by statements and not support any of them. Her goal is to sock it to the "libs" because she hates anyone who challenges the alt-right. That's it.

trixare4kids said:
Yeah, l'll be sure to do this when many from your team stop shooting down Fox News as a legitimate source....

Hey friend... what goes around comes around. :mrgreen:

Have a nice day!
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By the way, trix.. Faux Noose is beginning to call trump on his b.s. as well.

Fox News' Shepard Smith: 'Lie after lie after lie' on Russia meeting

You're running out of propaganda outlets to help confirm your false narratives. What are you going to do now?
 
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calamity said:
What is up with that? I see that all over the right these days. "Obama is not Black. He's mixed race."

Funny considering it's usually the one-drop rule folks who swear by it.
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Well, I'm not a one drop person, an Italian ancestor of mine married a Cherokee woman but I am not Cherokee or Italian due to that, Obama however is 50/50 black/white i.e., biracial as in two racial groups. He threw his white half under the bus.
 
trixare4kids said:
"The United States likely surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world's largest crude oil producer earlier this year, based on preliminary estimates in EIA's Short-Term Energy Outlook (STEO)" Sep 12, 2018
The United States is now the largest global crude oil producer - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
I hear the popcorn will go down easier with a little more butter.... :2razz:
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Same site you linked...

The United States remained the world's top producer of petroleum and natural gas hydrocarbons in 2015, according to U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates. U.S. petroleum and natural gas production first surpassed Russia in 2012, and the United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2011 and the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013.
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Your link talks about something more specific "crude oil" Trump said oil AND natural gas.

United States remains largest producer of petroleum and natural gas hydrocarbons - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)


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Trump said, "The United States is now the No. 1 energy producer in the world. That happened just recently."

The United States does rank first internationally in petroleum, crude oil, and natural gas production, though it ranks third in the world in coal production. Meanwhile, only for crude oil was the No. 1 spot achieved recently. For petroleum and natural gas, the United States has ranked first for years.

We rate the statement Half True.
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Did the United States recently become the No. 1 energy producer in the world? | PolitiFact West Virginia
 
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SonOfDaedalus said:
The best way to help cult members is to just ask them basic factual questions.

Trump said:

When did we become the number-one producer of oil and natural gas in the world?

:popcorn2:
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The United States remained the world's top producer of petroleum and natural gas hydrocarbons in 2015, according to U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates. U.S. petroleum and natural gas production first surpassed Russia in 2012, and the United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2011 and the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013.
 
trixare4kids said:
"The United States likely surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world's largest crude oil producer earlier this year, based on preliminary estimates in EIA's Short-Term Energy Outlook (STEO)" Sep 12, 2018
The United States is now the largest global crude oil producer - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
I hear the popcorn will go down easier with a little more butter.... :2razz:
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Yeah I wasn't going to bother getting into a useless argument about it here but the very 1st item CNN called false was actually true according to what was in the link itself.
In order to claim "False" that kind of fact check choreography is done all the time at places like WAPO.
But hey, it still gets some people to repeat 'em and after all that is the whole idea.
 
trixare4kids said:
Yeah, l'll be sure to do this when many from your team stop shooting down Fox News as a legitimate source....

Hey friend... what goes around comes around. :mrgreen:

Have a nice day!
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So iow's your typical behavior. Spout off and then start bobbing and weaving when asked to further explain. Why not just say you'll answer when the president releases his tax returns. Neither one of you have intentions of fulfilling your claim. :sword:
 
calamity said:
Fact check: Trump's Orlando rally featured more than 15 false claims over 76 minutes

That's a lot of whoppers.

I'm still somewhat amazed (much less today than I was a year ago) that his supporters like being lied to so often. I'd consider it insulting my intelligence if the guy I backed lied to me over 10 times per hour.

What gives with this? Why do they accept it?
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Hey Lamity:
A person's limbic system and their amygdala in particular do not have the capacity to tell the difference between statesmanlike relishes of truth and bald faced lies.

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That is not their purpose, and Donald Trump's entire rally performance boiled down to:

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beancounter said:
No, most of those people are paid rally actors.


:mrgreen:
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OMG so that's what they do when they're not acting in false flag school shootings?
I wonder if the Sandy Hook kids were in the crowd.
 
Trump said:
and how's that Mueller Report working out for ya? since ya mentioned fake news...member Trump and family heading to Prison:lol:
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There's plenty of time for prison after Trump loses in 2020. Presidents cannot be indicted. That does not mean they are innocent.
 
trixare4kids said:
I bet you still believe the presidential polls prior to the 2016 election too. :lol:
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The polls were not really wrong. 78,000 Bernie supporters in 3 blue states stayed home. Polls cannot reflect such small aberrations and Hillary did win the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.
 
trixare4kids said:
I know what they report across the net and social media like Twitter.

They must have forgotten to fact check Obama. :lol: CNN compares Trump lies to past presidents while leaving out Obama's whopper of the year... "if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."

CNN Compares Trump’s ‘Lies’ To Past Presidents — Leaves Out Obama’s ‘Lie Of The Year’ | The Daily Caller
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That was not a lie. There was nothing in the ACA that forced insurers to drop customers. They did it on their own and Obama had nothing to do with it. Private insurers always have had the right to drop any plan for any reason. I find it amusing that Trumpists always use they ONE statement. I have 1000's of lies to chooses from with Trump.
 
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iguanaman said:
There's plenty of time for prison after Trump loses in 2020. Presidents cannot be indicted. That does not mean they are innocent.
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plenty!

and trust me . With all the crimes Trump has committed (lying about crowd size, not realeasing his tax returns, walking in on naked girls etc etc, ) ,he's going to be locked away for a long time !!

and Barr's going with him-for lying about that Mueller report!!
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beancounter said:
Because they're butt-hurt over 8 years of Obama, and they are willing to "stick it to the Libs" at any cost.
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Yep. Having a black man who was demonstrably superior to them in every way, being treated respectfully and politely, was much too much for many in America.

Hence they rewarded the one man who faithfully attacked Obama for the colour of his skin, relentlessly, against all facts, against all reality, for a decade. They rewarded him by making him the leader of the country.
 
SkyFox76 said:
So iow's your typical behavior. Spout off and then start bobbing and weaving when asked to further explain. Why not just say you'll answer when the president releases his tax returns. Neither one of you have intentions of fulfilling your claim. :sword:
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That's been my experience with trix as well.
 
beancounter said:
Because they're butt-hurt over 8 years of Obama, and they are willing to "stick it to the Libs" at any cost.
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It transcends Obama. Trump captivates people strictly on his own. To the uncaptivated who may see him as a crude clown his power of personality must seem a very strange thing. But there it is.
 
JackA said:
It transcends Obama. Trump captivates people strictly on his own. To the uncaptivated who may see him as a crude clown his power of personality must seem a very strange thing. But there it is.
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Grab em by the p###y
 
calamity said:
What is up with that? I see that all over the right these days. "Obama is not Black. He's mixed race."

Funny considering it's usually the one-drop rule folks who swear by it.
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Oh come on, it's obvious enough.

Some of Trump's supporters are trying to distance themselves from all the racism they threw at Obama during his presidency. They need to because the fact that they now support Trump's blatant racism is making it hard for them to deny that they aren't White Supremacists.
 
Tell me lies, tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.
 
calamity said:
What is up with that? I see that all over the right these days. "Obama is not Black. He's mixed race."

Funny considering it's usually the one-drop rule folks who swear by it.
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What is up with that? Nothing, it is a true statement based on the fact that his mother is white and his father is black. That equals mixed race.

Unless.....for some reason you want to minimize his mother's racial contribution to her son in favor of his father's contribution alone.

Roseann:)
 
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