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At Dems' Event on Poverty, No One Talked About Jobs

So you can't, you'll just blather and expect people to take your comments as serious. Sorry but if you want to debate, you need more than just your immature ramblings.

Nah. He probably has the same problem with you that I do. Every time I try having a proper discussion with you, instead of defending points and putting together a coherent argument, you deflect and launch into name calling and insults.

Just like this. ^^


And this:

You mean you said "I can't refute the article, so I'll attack you the person and WIN!" Lol. How sad you are.
 
Nah. He probably has the same problem with you that I do. Every time I try having a proper discussion with you, instead of defending points and putting together a coherent argument, you deflect and launch into name calling and insults.

Just like this. ^^

I asked him to counter with more than just his deflection, your problem with me is that you lose every debate we've had and it upsets you.
 
Typical of conservatives to miss the point.

Jobs don't answer poverty.

Ask any walmart worker that.
 
I asked him to counter with more than just his deflection, your problem with me is that you lose every debate we've had and it upsets you.

Doesn't bother me. I've learned it's a waste of time trying to have a discussion with you.

But hey, you keep up the stream of insults, obviously in your mind they make a great substitute for a coherent argument.
 
Many people who live in poverty already have jobs. Many who don't are unqualified, separated from them by geographic distance, have criminal records.

The candidates spoke of health insurance. If you aren't healthy, its hard to maintain a job. If you are paying medical bills, no salary can save you. The candidates spoke of education. Nothing like being able to go to a school to get a better job to motivate one to work. Healthcare and education are things the government can do to help not just the poor, but all of us, and help protect us from dropping into poverty.

The government doesn't really create jobs, unless they are government jobs, and Lord knows, you guys don't want that. Those politicians who claim they create jobs are conning you.
 
She talked about hand outs not job creation, not the benefits of hard work, just "Vote for me, get **** without earning it"

"I'm gonna help you get a job by making sure you can get an education!"

"Handouts! They didn't earn that education!"

You honestly don't understand how silly you sound right now? Programs that would allow people to get jobs and would allow them to be able to succeed in those jobs is a handout? You're just spouting nonsensical talking points right now.
 
I asked him to counter with more than just his deflection, your problem with me is that you lose every debate we've had and it upsets you.
My first post was literally on how its a waste of time to debate you. Then you challenged that statement and asked me to debate. How sad are you?
 
I asked him to counter with more than just his deflection, your problem with me is that you lose every debate we've had and it upsets you.
Hahahaha who adjudicated that debate I wonder, victory in the mind of a fundamentalist is cheap.
 
You gotta love it when people quote MLK out of context. Dr. King was about to launch his Poor People's Campaign, which centered around economic and social justice for the poor.
I'm sure that program involved just giving poor people minimum wage jobs at Wap-Mart and calling it a day.
 
That would presume such nonsense and vitriolic content was worth my time. Correcting facts for those who have abandoned them is a fully effort.

It was certainly worth enough of your time to try to deflect. Fail.
 
Fauxahontas was outlining another one of her schemes to give away tax payers hard earned money. Leftists always get jazzed up when freebies are talked about.

True. Liz is talking about making people more qualified for jobs that don't exist.

Isn't that what's happened to the student loan giveaway?
 
Just sayin' you are confused with what's important to spend your time on. Why not learn something?
Learn something every day, and I read the article. It's absolute nonsense, so really I wasted too much of my time. You're right, I should be more careful.
 
Hell, we used to say democrats loved jobs but hate business, but now they don’t even like jobs anymore!

What a batch of absolute nonsense this stupid, pathetic comment is.
 
True. Liz is talking about making people more qualified for jobs that don't exist.

Isn't that what's happened to the student loan giveaway?

But don't worry. Gotta make those students pay for the malfeasance of others.
 

Just curious, what should they have said specifically about "jobs?"

Put another way, what does government do to create them, or what should they do to create them?

And the problem with your linked article is it's biased garbage, from start to finish. Just for example, the author who is a well known hack dismissed the Green New Deal as a jobs killer. What that indicates is she's clueless about the provisions of the Green New Deal, or a liar, ignorant or dishonest. She doesn't cite anything for the claim it would be a job killer, because the studies, like the referenced in this article, show the opposite. If she has studies showing it's a job killer, she should cite them, but she baselessly asserts them.

Someone else mentioned education and child care. My own state which is very red (supermajorities for the GOP) funds two years of community college for pretty much anyone for free, and funds 4 year degrees for better students. All that is because the state found out employers have a hard time finding qualified workers. So it's a jobs program. But when proposed and advocated by Democrats, it's evil socialism, and not even about jobs.

It's fine if Betsy disagrees with Tennessee and the conservatives who run it, but if she wants to claim that increasing access to education isn't about jobs, then she needs to cite her work. But that's not who she is, which is a paid hack pushing Republicans and who has a history of lying and telling half truths as blatantly as anyone you'll find if that's what she thinks her paymasters want.

Really all you needed to read was the first couple of paragraphs.

It was an alarming spectacle for anyone who works for a living. These Democratic candidates don't believe jobs are the way to end poverty. For them, "work" is a four-letter word. Their approach is to take money from working stiffs and give it to slackers.

Just for example, pushes to increase minimum wages can ONLY impact....workers!

The problem with ACA is that at higher income levels, even in states that expanded Medicaid for the very poor, the subsidies keep healthcare unaffordable. Addressing that means by definition helping people above Medicaid cutoffs, or WORKERS.

You also don't get child care if you are at home. So free childcare is again targeted at helping women, in particular, WORK and make it pay more than 'welfare.' That's not the case if childcare takes half your weekly pay. Why bother WORKING if working doesn't make you better off financially?

So she is as usual full of crap and just seeing her name at the top of the page tells you what's coming. She didn't disappoint here.
 
But don't worry. Gotta make those students pay for the malfeasance of others.

Nobody malfeased those who willingly contracted for tens of thousands of debt.
 
Hey, they have to keep those ETB cards recharged with my hard earned money.
That's what they do.
No doubt your tremendous tax contributions feed and house thousands of lazy Americans and criminal brown invaders.:roll:
 
Wait...so the latest leftist talking point is the Green New Deal will be a net positive with job creation.....
Haha....well, maybe in China.
 
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