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Illinois Senate To Trump: Show Your Tax Returns Or Be Barred From The 2020 Ballot

Lovebug said:
Who are the fascists these days, one wonders. Better watch out, if you don't do what they want, they'll make you.
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The fascists are Republicans, treating dollars like votes and votes like toilet paper. Your party has already proven that our democratic process is easily corrupted. They've turned the press into a cartoon and they've declared the president to be above the law.

The hilarious thing is how conservatives tear down what really makes America great and then bitch that they are being oppressed.

Don't get any tears on your brown shirt, bug. You'll need that for Trump's dictator of the year parade.
 
I'd love to see the tax info of some Illinois politicians....especially our Governor and his lover Mike Madigan.
 
Luckyone said:
Works for me as well. It is about time that Trump is forced to work within the general presidential guidelines that have been established since JFK was in office.
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Guidelines...that aren't an official requirement. Until it is, he doesn't have to do jack****.
 
OrphanSlug said:
I get the sentiment and the idea, but the results of this could backfire. In a way it is weaponized legislation effort against opposition and those tend to cause unintended consequences.
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It's also known as "abuse of power". House Dumbos are showing how good they are at that.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
All the dirty tricks, gerrymandering, trying to keep large demographics from voting, etc., Southern states closing down polling places in (ahem)'certain areas', these tricks HAVE worked for the GOP..

But now the same people who has cheered those dirty tricks are upset by this? lol

Fight fire with fire baby.
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So instead of taking the moral high ground, you support your side getting down into the dirt by weaponizing the American election process?
 
Idiometer said:
He would lose.

Voting is a state's issue, and each state can make its own requirements for those who want to appear on their ballots. These state laws do not violate anyone's constitutional rights.
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We'll see what the courts have to say about that.
 
Hamish Howl said:
It does not list those as exclusive, and no individual state election guidelines are present. Therefore amendment X applies.
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I think the fact that, in the past 2 years 20 states have introduced this legislation, not ONE has passed it.

Why do you suppose not ONE state can pass it?
 
SkyChief said:
I think the fact that, in the past 2 years 20 states have introduced this legislation, not ONE has passed it.

Why do you suppose not ONE state can pass it?
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Because they can't get it through their legislature. Has nothing to do with the constitutionality of it.
 
apdst said:
Only on loan interest. Loans aren't illegal.
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I never mentioned anything about anything being illegal. I just want to know who he owes. He wants my vote? I want to know who he's financially in bed with.
 
Roadvirus said:
So instead of taking the moral high ground, you support your side getting down into the dirt by weaponizing the American election process?
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When the GOP and Trump 'take the high ground' I'll get on board. Until then I'm for fighting fire with fire..
 
Luckyone said:
Works for me as well. It is about time that Trump is forced to work within the general presidential guidelines that have been established since JFK was in office.
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Ikari said:
We already know who really runs things. It's excessively difficult for third parties to make the ballot in all 50 states.
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chuckiechan said:
I want to see Hunter Biden’s taxes and since his dad was pulling the strings in Ukraine, it’s relevant to Joe’s fitness.



It has to do with not wanting to become like Italy and fractionalize the electorate.
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Chuckie doesn't want the US to become fascist, BTW, which Illinois will become, fascist, if it demands all candidates provide tax returns. Being fascist has nothing to do with which side of the political aisle one resides on.
 
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OscarLevant said:
Works for me.
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I hope Trump continues to stand up for our rights. If the president loses his rights we have gone down the drain. I hope it is not time to get rid of a tyrannical government that no longer serves the people and protects our rights.
 
Roadvirus said:
Guidelines...that aren't an official requirement. Until it is, he doesn't have to do jack****.
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Though technically I agree with all the posts as to why he doesn't have to, the bottom line is that he is a piece of sh** for not doing so and that tag is not going to go away no matter how much you Trump supporters support his cons.
 
Luckyone said:
Though technically I agree with all the posts as to why he doesn't have to, the bottom line is that he is a piece of sh** for not doing so and that tag is not going to go away no matter how much you Trump supporters support his cons.
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Why do you need Trump's tax returns?
 
cabse5 said:
Why do you need Trump's tax returns?
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To show us all that he is what he says he is. He has been proven to be a pathological liar but tax returns have to be truthful or big problems occur for him. As such, his tax returns are the only thing he cannot overcome with his own words. It proves what he really is. Even Trump supporters should want to see them for exactly the same reason. After all, you guys are the saps that he has convinced that he is the best of the best. Why don't you want proof of that? Or are you so willing to continue to believe his words that you will throw all caution to the wind?
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
So you're against politicians disclosing their financial information for the sake of transparency?
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I'm fine with them choosing to do so but would never support it being mandatory.
 
Trump fans want voters to show ID when they vote to prove they are American, why not have the candidates show their tax returns to prove that they are law abiding Americans?
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
That would be allowing Trump to change our political systems towards greater corruption.

It's better if Dems propose a new law requiring nominees to release their tax returns. Then Trump supporters would have to oppose a law that is clearly intended to fight corruption.

Maybe then they'll realize that Trump is on the side of corruption.
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That will take more than just a law.

Requirements for President are a Constitutional issue.

You've effectively got less than a year. I'd suggest you get started.
 
Lovebug said:
Who are the fascists these days, one wonders. Better watch out, if you don't do what they want, they'll make you.
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Difficult when one has no clue what a fascist is. This has to do with States exercising their power to try and compel the sitting president to commit to transparency and prove he does not have conflicts of interest or compromising interests.
 
OscarLevant said:
Works for me.
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Not for me. States’ control over national elections is a good thing but it should not extend to rule making that bans a nominee of a major party. Dangerous.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Actually it will, deducting expenses associated with debt requires details.
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Actually it probably won't.

I would guess Trump's returns would look a lot like mine. A few personal expenses/income + a lot of line items of dividends/ profit/loss on sale of stock.
 
bongsaway said:
I'm totally against any individual giving any information about themselves just because they decide to run for public office.

I mean who would want to know that a businessman may be tied up with a foreign nation he owes millions to thereby being open to blackmail, especially if the money moving around wasn't quite legal? I wouldn't care.

Would I care if the person running is on their third marriage and cheated on all spouses and lied about paying off porn stars and playboy bunnies to keep them quiet, nah, don't care.

If we bury our heads deep enough, and close our eyes and ears hard enough we can elect Michael Corleone to the office of president.
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We’ve already done that, a new ‘untouchables’, along with something infinitely more important to me.

This admin is a hollow shell of any previous president, especially in foreign affairs. Bannon’s Deconstruction of the USA 🇺🇸 government in all respects, all 3 branches, is well under way.

We’re at the mercy of every cyber attacker, every intelligent player, like Vlad and MBS. That little show in the Straits of Hormuz is just the start of it with Iran and their supporters and helpers.

We’ll see how long tertiary trump’s ‘Patriotic Farmers’ stay with him. Deporting illegal immigrants who farm the fields and work landscaping makes little sense to people that actually have common sense, farmers.
 
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