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After what the DNC pulled in 2016, how could anyone vote Democrat?

Republicans took a vote on the Green New Deal. It didn't pass. Harry Reid stopped like 400 Republican bills. The House refused to even vote on the Green New Deal.

The green new deal wasn't real legislation. It wasn't a piece of actual law. It was an idea.

Again. I'm not excusing Harry Reid, so why do you keep bringing him up. McConnell is senate leader now.

He has denied votes on election protections. Campaign finance reform. Violence against women.

None of these things are "socialist" and all of these things had bipartisan support.

how can you excuse this behavior?
 
wow

you hold a stranger on line to a higher standard of spelling and grammer than you do the Presidents atrocious grammer and spelling. You are dismissed.



My favorite liberal maneuver. “You are dismissed.” :2wave:
 
Q: After what the DNC pulled in 2016, how could anyone vote Democrat?

A: Trump!

Looks like a winner to me ...
 
You need to realise the the mainstream media are no longer real journalists, they have an agenda. From your post, I see you believe whatever they say. Don't be a sheep. Think for yourself.

I cited three examples, all based on direct quotes. Trump also said your intelligence agencies were like Nazi Germany and your electoral process was rigged and your judicial system is so currupt a judge with a Hispanic name can't be trusted to make an unbiased decision. Remember the Trump University fraud case? All these are from direct quotes, nothing to do with any media agenda. Trump also said the Electoral College is "a disaster for democracy". What do you think? You agree with Trump or do you support the Electoral College?
 
Yes, Trump has some faults. He's narcissistic as hell, has lived a rich playboy lifestyle and he's not the greatest public speaker.
I didn't vote for his personality, I voted for his policies, which have, despite all the opposition's actions, worked out pretty well.

He's a pathological liar and a megalomaniac. He's completely unfit for the job, and is a national embarrassment. His policies boil down to letting the rich raid the treasury and reversing anything that the black guy did. It's time to vote him out and to begin trying to rebuild our country's reputation.
 
He's a pathological liar and a megalomaniac. He's completely unfit for the job, and is a national embarrassment. His policies boil down to letting the rich raid the treasury and reversing anything that the black guy did. It's time to vote him out and to begin trying to rebuild our country's reputation.

Our country's reputation? We are no longer the sugar daddy of the world. This has of course, not been popular across some parts of the planet
Ask me if I care that they now have to pay for their own obligations.
 
Our country's reputation? We are no longer the sugar daddy of the world. This has of course, not been popular across some parts of the planet
Ask me if I care that they now have to pay for their own obligations.

I don't really care if you care. I care about voting this administration out.
 
I'll be voting against Tweety and his cult. The Democrats are the only viable alternative option. I consider the two party system to be a fatal flaw in our democracy, but it's the reality that we have to work with.

I used to believe in the electorate, but I think if it was done with, more independents would run and the popular vote would win the election.
 
The DNC rigged the primaries and made some statements about their voters that were elitist and downright nasty.
Can't you see all the kumbuya, feel good nonsense they spout as a "platform" is complete BS?
Do you really want another bought out, stuffed shirt that plays the DC game and spouts BS in the White House?
We, the American people, need someone in the WH who doesn't play the DC games, and most importantly, has COMMON SENSE.
Otherwise, we're stuck with the same incompetent garbage we had with Bush and Obama.

Somehow too much of America shifted from being patriotic, civic minded, responsible Americans to being hyper partisan fanatics. Instead of living and let live and working for what they have and taking responsibility for themselves, too many have become victim minded, judgmental, authoritarian, intolerant, bigoted, hateful big government advocates who seem to think it is their mission in life to punish, control, silence, or destroy everybody else who doesn't think like THEM. And they are willing to use the government in any way necessary to force everybody to conform to their wants, wishes, beliefs, and prejudices.

Those of us still capable of critical thinking can see the influences of Marx, Alinsky, Lenin, and many of those who sympathize with that line of thought among many in the modern Democrat Party. They should change their name because there is nothing Democratic about it these days.

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The green new deal wasn't real legislation. It wasn't a piece of actual law. It was an idea.

Again. I'm not excusing Harry Reid, so why do you keep bringing him up. McConnell is senate leader now.

He has denied votes on election protections. Campaign finance reform. Violence against women.

None of these things are "socialist" and all of these things had bipartisan support.

how can you excuse this behavior?

How can you excuse Harry Reid's behavior? McConnell voted on the Green New Deal when not even the House would vote on it. McConnell cares more about the environment than Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats do. Democrats in the Senate refused to vote for it.
 
Thread title: After what the DNC pulled in 2016, how could anyone vote Democrat?

How?...Easy....The same way Bernie can run as a Democrat in 2020. There another easy answer to a painfully easy to answer question.

He can run, but will he be allowed to win? Ok, with so many more candidates this time, it is much more difficult to assume the agreed on coronation. I have the feeling it won't be Biden. May be someone less than white breaking the glass ceiling. In anticipation of all the negatives, one would want to unpack the "sexist" and "racist" rebuttals.
 
The DNC rigged the primaries and made some statements about their voters that were elitist and downright nasty.
Can't you see all the kumbuya, feel good nonsense they spout as a "platform" is complete BS?
Do you really want another bought out, stuffed shirt that plays the DC game and spouts BS in the White House?
We, the American people, need someone in the WH who doesn't play the DC games, and most importantly, has COMMON SENSE.
Otherwise, we're stuck with the same incompetent garbage we had with Bush and Obama.

Bush and Obama, Trump and ______. That's the problem right there, G. The 2 party system is taking us for granted. Whether it is a one or two term administration, the opposition party is going in full gear. Why? Power.
We need enough independent voters, and a solid 3rd party candidate, to change this never ending back and forth.
You probably won't agree with me on this, but if it were possible, I so wish that Bernie would run as a 3rd party candidate and stick it to both D and R.
 
The DNC rigged the primaries and made some statements about their voters that were elitist and downright nasty.
Can't you see all the kumbuya, feel good nonsense they spout as a "platform" is complete BS?
Do you really want another bought out, stuffed shirt that plays the DC game and spouts BS in the White House?
We, the American people, need someone in the WH who doesn't play the DC games, and most importantly, has COMMON SENSE.
Otherwise, we're stuck with the same incompetent garbage we had with Bush and Obama.

Why would any sober, rational adult vote for a republican?
 
I used to believe in the electorate, but I think if it was done with, more independents would run and the popular vote would win the election.

The system definitely needs serious tweaks that I doubt will happen.
 
The DNC rigged the primaries and made some statements about their voters that were elitist and downright nasty.
Can't you see all the kumbuya, feel good nonsense they spout as a "platform" is complete BS?
Do you really want another bought out, stuffed shirt that plays the DC game and spouts BS in the White House?
We, the American people, need someone in the WH who doesn't play the DC games, and most importantly, has COMMON SENSE.
Otherwise, we're stuck with the same incompetent garbage we had with Bush and Obama.

Seriously, I would vote for this bowling pin painted to look like Homer Simpson before I’d vote for Trump.
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That's how bad it's gotten. Pretty much anything warm and breathing that pulls ahead of the herd at the Democratic Party would be better than Trump.
Common sense? Alienating allies and buddying up to murderous dictators sounds like common sense to you?

Nato members increase defence spending by $100 billion after Donald Trump called them 'delinquents'

Getting ripped off is a better position for you? What is your bank account number since that is a position you favor.

Thanks.


Telling the world he'd accept intelligence on politial rivals from foreign governments sounds like common sense to you? Calling the investigation that uncovered meddling by members of a foreign intelligence agency in your Presidential election a 'hoax' sounds like common sense to you?
Jesus. How'd it come this far?

Accepting bought and paid for fake news from russian intelligence actually happened but not by who you seem to think.

Hillary Clinton's Russia collusion IOU: The answers she owes America

"During the combined two decades she served as a U.S. senator and secretary of State, Hillary Clinton’s patrons regularly donated to her family charity when they had official business pending before America’s most powerful political woman.

The pattern of political IOUs paid to the Clinton Foundation was so pernicious that the State Department even tried to execute a special agreement with the charity to avoid the overt appearance of “pay-to-play” policy.

Still, the money continued to flow by the millions of dollars, from foreigners and Americans alike who were perceived to be indebted to the Clinton machine or in need of its help.

It’s time for the American public to call in their own IOU on political transparency.

The reason? Never before — until 2016 — had the apparatus of a U.S. presidential candidate managed to sic the weight of the FBI and U.S. intelligence community on a rival nominee during an election, and by using a foreign-fed, uncorroborated political opposition research document.

But Clinton’s campaign, in concert with the Democratic Party and through their shared law firm, funded Christopher Steele’s unverified dossier which, it turns out, falsely portrayed Republican Donald Trump as a treasonous asset colluding with Russian President Vladimir Putin to hijack the U.S. election.

Steele went to the FBI to get an investigation started and then leaked the existence of the investigation, with the hope of sinking Trump’s presidential aspirations.

On its face, it is arguably the most devious political dirty trick in American history and one of the most overt intrusions of a foreigner into a U.S. election.

It appears the Clinton machine knew that what it was doing was controversial. That’s why it did backflips to disguise the operation from Congress and the public, and in its Federal Election Commission (FEC) spending reports.

Clinton and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) used the law firm of Perkins Coie to hire Glenn Simpson’s research firm, Fusion GPS, which then hired Steele — several layers that obfuscated transparency, kept the operation off the campaign’s public FEC reports and gave the Clintons plausible deniability.

But Steele’s first overture on July 5, 2016, failed to capture the FBI’s imagination. So the Clinton machine escalated. Steele, a British national, went to senior Department of Justice official Bruce Ohr — whose wife, Nellie, also worked for Fusion — to push his Trump dirt to the top of the FBI.

Nellie Ohr likewise sent some of her own anti-Trump research augmenting Steele’s dossier to the FBI through her husband. Perkins Coie lawyer Michael Sussmann used his connection to former FBI general counsel James Baker to dump Trump dirt at the FBI, too.

Then Steele and, separately, longtime Clinton protégé Cody Shearer went to the State Department to get the story out, increasing pressure on the FBI.

In short, the Clinton machine flooded the FBI with pressure — and bad intel — until an investigation of Trump was started. The bureau and its hapless sheriff at the time, James Comey, eventually acquiesced with the help of such Clinton fans as then-FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

To finish the mission, Simpson and Steele leaked the existence of the FBI investigation to the news media to ensure it would hurt Trump politically. Simpson even called the leaks a “hail Mary” that failed."

Right now it looks like partisan democrats, fbi, and cia interfered far more in our elections than any russian.
 
How can you excuse Harry Reid's behavior? McConnell voted on the Green New Deal when not even the House would vote on it. McConnell cares more about the environment than Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats do. Democrats in the Senate refused to vote for it.

We both know McConnell played politics with the Green New Deal. That's all McConnell does; play politics. So please, spare me the bull****. I'm not going to address that again. We both (as well as ALL READERS) know this is complete nonsense.

Here's a conservative site talking about the unprecedented obstruction of Mitch.

Mitch McConnell Continues Blocking Conservative Bills After Dems Win in Alabama - Conservative Daily

More:

McConnell lays out agenda as House bills pile up | TheHill

McConnell has subverted his position and is blatantly abusing power.
 
We both know McConnell played politics with the Green New Deal. That's all McConnell does; play politics. So please, spare me the bull****. I'm not going to address that again. We both (as well as ALL READERS) know this is complete nonsense.

Here's a conservative site talking about the unprecedented obstruction of Mitch.

Mitch McConnell Continues Blocking Conservative Bills After Dems Win in Alabama - Conservative Daily

More:

McConnell lays out agenda as House bills pile up | TheHill

McConnell has subverted his position and is blatantly abusing power.

Heavens to Betsy. Politicians play politics. Who wooda ever thunk. How about Democrats being the resistance?
 
The DNC rigged the primaries and made some statements about their voters that were elitist and downright nasty.
Can't you see all the kumbuya, feel good nonsense they spout as a "platform" is complete BS?
Do you really want another bought out, stuffed shirt that plays the DC game and spouts BS in the White House?
We, the American people, need someone in the WH who doesn't play the DC games, and most importantly, has COMMON SENSE.
Otherwise, we're stuck with the same incompetent garbage we had with Bush and Obama.

Someone with Common Sense, who did have in mind?
 
Heavens to Betsy. Politicians play politics. Who wooda ever thunk. How about Democrats being the resistance?

Well it looks like the Republicans are the resistors, until Nov 2020, then they will be toast.
 
Heavens to Betsy. Politicians play politics. Who wooda ever thunk. How about Democrats being the resistance?

I asked you a question about Mitch and I clearly pointed out how he has consistently refused to hold votes on basically everything.

How can you continue to excuse this behavior?
 
Well it looks like the Republicans are the resistors, until Nov 2020, then they will be toast.

Don't worry. As long as it's an R obstructing, its all good to these folks, because (insert random democrat politician/squirrel here).
 
Nato members increase defence spending by $100 billion after Donald Trump called them 'delinquents'

Getting ripped off is a better position for you? What is your bank account number since that is a position you favor.

Thanks.




Accepting bought and paid for fake news from russian intelligence actually happened but not by who you seem to think.

Hillary Clinton's Russia collusion IOU: The answers she owes America

"During the combined two decades she served as a U.S. senator and secretary of State, Hillary Clinton’s patrons regularly donated to her family charity when they had official business pending before America’s most powerful political woman.

The pattern of political IOUs paid to the Clinton Foundation was so pernicious that the State Department even tried to execute a special agreement with the charity to avoid the overt appearance of “pay-to-play” policy.

Still, the money continued to flow by the millions of dollars, from foreigners and Americans alike who were perceived to be indebted to the Clinton machine or in need of its help.

It’s time for the American public to call in their own IOU on political transparency.

The reason? Never before — until 2016 — had the apparatus of a U.S. presidential candidate managed to sic the weight of the FBI and U.S. intelligence community on a rival nominee during an election, and by using a foreign-fed, uncorroborated political opposition research document.

But Clinton’s campaign, in concert with the Democratic Party and through their shared law firm, funded Christopher Steele’s unverified dossier which, it turns out, falsely portrayed Republican Donald Trump as a treasonous asset colluding with Russian President Vladimir Putin to hijack the U.S. election.

Steele went to the FBI to get an investigation started and then leaked the existence of the investigation, with the hope of sinking Trump’s presidential aspirations.

On its face, it is arguably the most devious political dirty trick in American history and one of the most overt intrusions of a foreigner into a U.S. election.

It appears the Clinton machine knew that what it was doing was controversial. That’s why it did backflips to disguise the operation from Congress and the public, and in its Federal Election Commission (FEC) spending reports.

Clinton and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) used the law firm of Perkins Coie to hire Glenn Simpson’s research firm, Fusion GPS, which then hired Steele — several layers that obfuscated transparency, kept the operation off the campaign’s public FEC reports and gave the Clintons plausible deniability.

But Steele’s first overture on July 5, 2016, failed to capture the FBI’s imagination. So the Clinton machine escalated. Steele, a British national, went to senior Department of Justice official Bruce Ohr — whose wife, Nellie, also worked for Fusion — to push his Trump dirt to the top of the FBI.

Nellie Ohr likewise sent some of her own anti-Trump research augmenting Steele’s dossier to the FBI through her husband. Perkins Coie lawyer Michael Sussmann used his connection to former FBI general counsel James Baker to dump Trump dirt at the FBI, too.

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To finish the mission, Simpson and Steele leaked the existence of the FBI investigation to the news media to ensure it would hurt Trump politically. Simpson even called the leaks a “hail Mary” that failed."

Right now it looks like partisan democrats, fbi, and cia interfered far more in our elections than any russian.

First, anyone who thinks the US is 'getting ripped off' by it's NATO membership doesn't have a clue what they're talking about. NATO doesn't have a fund that's being shorted by the other members so the US has to make up the difference. NATO involves an agreement by it's member nations to each spend 2% of their GDP on their defense budgets. Only the USA does that but it sure doesn't mean the US has to spend more because, say, Germany doesn't meet the 2% target. That's just dumb.
Damn I wish the US would pull out of NATO. Then we stop hearing whining because the other members don't squander $250 on toilet seats or whatever other corporate welfare scheme the US passes off as defense spending.
Second, I don't give a flying **** what you think of Hillary Clinton. I can't stand the harpy myself- do you care?

edit- I had to snip your wall of text to fit under the character limit
 
Well it looks like the Republicans are the resistors, until Nov 2020, then they will be toast.

Don't understand. We have a Republican president and a Republican Senate. The House is resisting the will of the people.
 
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