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OLC determines that Trump's tax returns DO NOT have to be disclosed

CharisRose said:
Not a funny position to take when Trump is constantly smeared in public by a multitude of his resistors.

I have read multiple smear Trump threads and posts on this forum and there weren't just about his tax returns.

Roseann:)
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And Republicans smeared Hillary Clinton for every conceivable thing they could think of, from their theory that she murdered multiple people right down to her pants suit.

But they didn't smear her over her tax returns.
 
poweRob said:
Ask him. He's the one who promised to do so and hasn't.
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I don't need to ask him. I'm not the one concerned about him not releasing his tax returns or breaking his promise....you are.

Roseann:)
 
CharisRose said:
He lived up to some of my expectations but not all of them. He is a flawed man in many personal aspects but in spite of that I can recognize when he does beneficial things for America and the People of America.

I may need to because the other Candidates running to get nominated to be the one to run against him are flawed concerning their unrealistic ideas for changing America and their disdain for the Constitutional Rights of the American People.

(imho)Roseann:)
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As far as this thread is concerned.....he is a liar
 
CharisRose said:
I don't need to ask him. I'm not the one concerned about him not releasing his tax returns or breaking his promise....you are.

Roseann:)
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You mean lying. You're not concerned with him lying. And you'll cover for the lie with a victim card. That's immoral.
 
CharisRose said:
I never thought for a second you would be voting for Trump.

I doubt that would make a difference to his base. Trump was pro-choice, so I wouldn't be surprised to see past planned parenthood donations.

Today, he is an advocate for pro-life and has established that through actions and not just words.

Roseann:)
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He may change his mind....he did about his tax returns
 
Cardinal said:
And Republicans smeared Hillary Clinton for every conceivable thing they could think of, from their theory that she murdered multiple people right down to her pants suit.

But they didn't smear her over her tax returns.
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Why bother smearing her about her boring tax returns when they had all of those far more interesting smears to spread around about her that made good sound bites.

If, she didn't release her tax returns they would have used the smear tactic used on Trump... she must be hiding something and she should be releasing them like all before her!!!

Roseann:)
 
CharisRose said:
Why bother smearing her about her boring tax returns when they had all of those far more interesting smears to spread around.
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Like her pants suit?

CharisRose said:
If, she didn't release her tax returns they would have used the smear tactic used on Trump... she must be hiding something and she should be releasing them like all before her!!!
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I'm sure they would have, but her tax returns had nothing interesting to attack her on. So boring were they, in fact, that they attacked her for her pants suit instead.
 
ecofarm said:
You mean lying. You're not concerned with him lying. And you'll cover for the lie with a victim card. That's immoral.
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What planet do you live on Candidates lie and then they change their minds when they get in office.

So, if you don't want to be immoral you should never vote again.

Cause you don't know they lied to you on the campaign trail until they get into office and don't keep their promises.

Roseann:)
 
CharisRose said:
What planet do you live on Candidates lie and then they change their minds when they get in office.

So, if you don't want to be immoral you should never vote again.

Cause you don't know they lied to you on the campaign trail until they get into office and don't keep their promises.

Roseann:)
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Whataboutism, the refuge of the unethical position.
 
Cardinal said:
Like her pants suit?



I'm sure they would have, but her tax returns had nothing interesting to attack her on. So boring were they, in fact, that they attacked her for her pants suit instead.
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Political fodder is like that... useless talking points about stupid stuff.

Tax returns are political fodder. Pant suits are political fodder. Political fodder is used to distract from the real problems that exist in Our Nation.

Problems that remain in place for years as our leaders kick all those cans down the road hoping the political fodder will distract us from noticing the big pile of cans.

Roseann:)
 
CharisRose said:
Political fodder is like that... useless talking points about stupid stuff.

Tax returns are political fodder. Pant suits are political fodder. Political fodder is used to distract from the real problems that exist in Our Nation.

Problems that remain in place for years as our leaders kick all those cans down the road hoping the political fodder will distract us from noticing the big pile of cans.

Roseann:)
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This is brilliant! So well put.
 
vegas giants said:
He may change his mind....he did about his tax returns
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Doubt it. He will need their votes. The ones who wanted to see his tax returns were never going to vote for him even if he released his tax returns.

Roseann:)
 
CharisRose said:
Political fodder is like that... useless talking points about stupid stuff.

Tax returns are political fodder. Pant suits are political fodder. Political fodder is used to distract from the real problems that exist in Our Nation.

Problems that remain in place for years as our leaders kick all those cans down the road hoping the political fodder will distract us from noticing the big pile of cans.

Roseann:)
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And yet, so boring were her tax returns, they resorted to the pants suit. Do you think Trump's tax returns will be so boring?
 
Cardinal said:
And yet, so boring were her tax returns, they resorted to the pants suit. Do you think Trump's tax returns will be so boring?
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Yes and more boring than her tax return and pant suits.

Roseann:)
 
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Cardinal said:
It's a testament to Obama's honesty that while we're forced to pick any one of the 11,000 lies that Trump has told, Republicans are only ever able to reach for that one single inaccurate statement made by Obama.
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Yeah, Ok, Obama only ever told one lie? Who's pipe are you smoking from? You know better than that so why post something so obviously out of touch with reality.

You can keep your Dr.
You can keep your plan
Benghazi was over an internet video

How about a list of Obama lies
FACT CHECK: Obama's 50 Lies / Obama Not Exactly

Please, give us a break. lol
 
Condor060 said:
Yeah, Ok, Obama only ever told one lie? Who's pipe are you smoking from? You know better than that so why post something so obviously out of touch with reality.

You can keep your Dr.
You can keep your plan
Benghazi was over an internet video

How about a list of Obama lies
FACT CHECK: Obama's 50 Lies / Obama Not Exactly

Please, give us a break. lol
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What Obama said was actually factually accurate. Nothing about the ACA forced you to lose your doctor. What DID cause people to lose thier docs was the DOCTORS deciding not to accept the coverages. That isn't the plan forcing people to find new doctors....it was the doctors themselves forcing thier patients to find new doctors because they didn't want to take the hit to income. Obama didn't lie about it so much as some doctors sold him down the river by putting profit over patients. That isn't the same thing.

Nice try though.
 
bullseyelqcs said:
What Obama said was actually factually accurate. Nothing about the ACA forced you to lose your doctor. What DID cause people to lose thier docs was the DOCTORS deciding not to accept the coverages. That isn't the plan forcing people to find new doctors....it was the doctors themselves forcing thier patients to find new doctors because they didn't want to take the hit to income. Obama didn't lie about it so much as some doctors sold him down the river by putting profit over patients. That isn't the same thing.

Nice try though.
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Yeah, you keep pushing that BS cus ain't nobody buying it but you. I noticed you skipped right over the whole Benghazi was over an internet video thing or even attempt the lies on record from that sleazebag.
 
Condor060 said:
Yeah, you keep pushing that BS cus ain't nobody buying it but you. I noticed you skipped right over the whole Benghazi was over an internet video thing or even attempt the lies on record from that sleazebag.
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Its not BS, its simple facts. If you want to dispute it, please provide the section in the ACA that forced you to lose your doctor. Shouldn't be too hard to find, right?

Benghazi being over the video was probably the best cover they had for an operation that wasn't supposed to be happening. Ask yourself why a US ambassador, with an office right there in country, was at a soft target outpost known to be a CIA safehouse instead of the well protected embassy? Its pretty safe to assume that whatever he was doing was not going to be openly sanctioned. Don't mistake my bringing that up as a condemnation of the act, as I am well aware that **** like that goes on in every administration....sometimes with horrible and tragic results, as this one did.

As for your other claimed lies, I didn't take the time to read the link you posted. If you would like to provide just one or two to discuss, I would be more willing to shred them as well though.

Up to you.
 
Condor060 said:
Yeah, Ok, Obama only ever told one lie? Who's pipe are you smoking from? You know better than that so why post something so obviously out of touch with reality.

You can keep your Dr.
You can keep your plan
Benghazi was over an internet video

How about a list of Obama lies
FACT CHECK: Obama's 50 Lies / Obama Not Exactly

Please, give us a break. lol
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And yet it remains to this to day the only inaccurate statement republicans can immediately recall. And that’s because he was an honest man.
 
Condor060 said:
Yeah, you keep pushing that BS cus ain't nobody buying it but you. I noticed you skipped right over the whole Benghazi was over an internet video thing or even attempt the lies on record from that sleazebag.
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Okay....I actually took the time to read the link, and I must say, it did a pretty good job of destroying the lie premise. The vast majority of the "lies" he supposedly told were in fact either proven to be truths, or were misinterpreted in order to call them lies.

Did you even read your own article before trying to use it as proof of your premise. Might have been a good idea, because had you done so, you probably wouldn't have used that one, as it completely shreds your own claim.
 
vegas giants said:
Do you care if your politicians lie to you?
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Depends on the lie - if the politician said he/she was considering releasing his/her tax returns and then didn't, I couldn't care less. If the politician lied and said they would balance the budget during their time in office and then didn't, damn right I'd care and if I voted for that politician in the first place, that politician wouldn't get my vote the next time. Fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me.

The personal lives/finances of politicians mean absolutely nothing to me except and unless the politician puts him/herself into a position where their influence and political actions benefit their personal lives and/or finances, such as when the current Canadian Prime Minister donated $50 million Canadian taxpayer dollars to the Agha Khan's charity and then accepted a "free" Christmas vacation on the Agha Khan's island for his family and friends.

However, I have no interest in our Prime Minister's tax returns, no interest in his trust fund account, etc. How he uses taxpayer dollars is my only concern. His personal life bores me.
 
CharisRose said:
Doubt it. He will need their votes. The ones who wanted to see his tax returns were never going to vote for him even if he released his tax returns.

Roseann:)
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If he is reelected.....I guess he can change his mind about anything
 
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