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Do we need the law proposed by the Dems to make it illegal to accept info from foreign gov.s?

But, not Hiitlery the old hag? You know, the only person to actually receive information from foreigners?...lol

There is so much wrong in such a short post:
The DNC (not Hillary) hired and paid US firm Fusion GPS Research for material regarding Donald Trump and his dealings in Russia. Actually it was a GOP group in opposition to Trump that first hired Fusion GPS for that purpose. Fusion contracted Richard Steele for the work which he produced using assets he had developed running the Russia desk for MI-6. Both the DNC effort and the GOP group's efforts were entirely LEGAL. Stop the nonsense. Your using talking points that are utter drivel.

Hiring a firm to perform a legal task is entirely different from taking an in-kind campaign contribution from a foreign source. You are embarrassing yourself and the entire forum as are several GOP Senators and Congressmen and various and sundry right wing commentators.
 
First, you can’t stop it. There is no way to stop information from foreign sources getting to a given campaign ESPECIALLY if everyone is fine and dandy with the campaign getting that information from a domestic cutout.

Second, it’s the nature of social media that opinions from international sources will be presented on the various platforms. If a foreign entity or government produces such media the only way to stop it is to prevent citizens from using social media.

Third, if a foreign government wants to sway a US election they can do so entirely on their own turf. Their opinions will be carried in the international press and even if the US closes off all access to foreign news sources that information will still come in through illegal means.

Finally, if the globalists so badly want the US to be subservient to the will of the world as a whole then why are they even complaining about this kind of thing? Well, there is one reason for that...Trump. If anyone else was elected we’d have never heard a peep about “Russiagate”.

Most other canidates and their campaigns would have reported the Trump Tower meeting to the FBI. Not the Trump Crime Syndicate, they believe they are above the law. I will enjoy watching the Trumps move out of DC Jan 2021.
 
There is so much wrong in such a short post:
The DNC (not Hillary) hired and paid US firm Fusion GPS Research for material regarding Donald Trump and his dealings in Russia. Actually it was a GOP group in opposition to Trump that first hired Fusion GPS for that purpose. Fusion contracted Richard Steele for the work which he produced using assets he had developed running the Russia desk for MI-6. Both the DNC effort and the GOP group's efforts were entirely LEGAL. Stop the nonsense. Your using talking points that are utter drivel.

Hiring a firm to perform a legal task is entirely different from taking an in-kind campaign contribution from a foreign source. You are embarrassing yourself and the entire forum as are several GOP Senators and Congressmen and various and sundry right wing commentators.

Clinton paid a law firm that hired Fusion GPS. That's "accepting information from a foreign government".
 
No, he did not. THere is plenty of Russian collusion in the Mueller report, in fact, some 150 comms between Russia and campaign staff.

Collusion was not his mandate, coordination/conspiracy, was his mandate. he merely couldn't establish that beyond a reasonable doubt where a jury would prosecute.

Also, to find crimes arising from the investigation, and prosecute, and/or farm out to other agencies. This he has done.

The other crimes he found on Trump have to do with corruption & obstruction.

Mueller report: Trump cleared of conspiring with Russia - BBC News
 
The Dems in the house have sent a bill to the Senate making it illegal to accept or request info on an opponent from a foreign government or agent. Mitch McConnell has said he will not bring the bill for a Senate vote as it helps the Dems? I wonder how it helps the Dems and not the GOP, but keeping the question open on whether accepting or requesting info on an opponent violates present laws does allow Trump to say he does not think it does. It also allows him to request or accept such info and use it through intermediaries such as Wikileaks and claim he has not broken the law. So do we need a law making it specifically illegal to accept or request info from a foreign government or agent, or are you like Trump who believes it is okay?


Couple of things going on here:

1. If it's not a crime already then what was the Mueller investigation all about?

2. In 2016 both the DNC and Republicans got hacked but there was only useful information obtained from the Democrats. Maybe they should quit having information that can be used against them.
 
Clinton paid a law firm that hired Fusion GPS. That's "accepting information from a foreign government".

It's looking more and more like Clinton, through Sid Blumenthal (among others), also provided Steele with a lot of the information he then handed back to her
 
She paid for the services of Fusion GPS. her emails were not marked classified, save for one or two.

"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent."

"Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."

Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI[/quote]
 
Hate to burst your little bubble but conversations about dirt on candidates are not contributions. I know you need it to be but if that were true, every politician in Washington would be in jail.

If your little fairy tale were true, How did the DNC send people to the Ukraine to get dirt on Manafort prior to any investigation. How did Clinton work with Steele to get Russian dirt on Trump? Your reaching for something that was never there.

Hate to break it to you, but yet again you've just spouted irrelevancies.

It must suck, losing so often and so badly.

My sympathies.
 
It's looking more and more like Clinton, through Sid Blumenthal (among others), also provided Steele with a lot of the information he then handed back to her

Looks more like that to whom.....Qanon?
 
Clinton paid a law firm that hired Fusion GPS. That's "accepting information from a foreign government".

NOPE...the DNC paid the law firm. The law firm contracted Fusion GPS and they contracted Steele....entirely legal.

Steele by the way is a "private contractor". He is no longer a foreign government or a foreign government representative. Sorry wrong again.
 
It's looking more and more like Clinton, through Sid Blumenthal (among others), also provided Steele with a lot of the information he then handed back to her
Grassley and Graham first brought up the names Cody Shearer and Sid Blumenthal in January of last year requesting emails and other communications of these two from the DNC .
Cody Shearer, Sidney Blumenthal emerge in Russia dossier case - Washington Times
I have no knowledge that the DNC complied with the senators request. But I have no doubt if U.S. Atty Durham wants them he will get them.
 
Hate to burst your little bubble but conversations about dirt on candidates are not contributions. I know you need it to be but if that were true, every politician in Washington would be in jail.

If your little fairy tale were true, How did the DNC send people to the Ukraine to get dirt on Manafort prior to any investigation. How did Clinton work with Steele to get Russian dirt on Trump? Your reaching for something that was never there.

Conversation [negotiations] about the dirt fall into a rather vague hole in the current Statute that Pelosi is trying to close. THE DIRT itself would be an in-kind contribution.

So a candidate might, MIGHT be able to slip through the nose if he rejected the offer. If he listens to THE DIRT, receives it orally, on a hard drive, hard copy, in a disk he has received an in-kind contribution from a foreign source.

Interesting to note that the GOP is going to try to resist Pelosi's effort to close that hole. GOP now stands for GANG OF PUTIN. Who knew!

You guys need to get a new schtick. Trying to make believe you can wordsmith your way around US Law which you appear to barely understand at any level just ain't workin' for you.

Dasvidaniya
 
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Conversation [negotiations] about the dirt fall into a rather vague hole in the current Statute that Pelosi is trying to close. THE DIRT itself would be an in-kind contribution.

So a candidate might, MIGHT be able to slip through the nose if he rejected the offer. If he listens to THE DIRT, receives it orally, on a hard drive, hard copy, in a disk he has received an in-kind contribution from a foreign source.

Interesting to note that the GOP is going to try to resist Pelosi's effort to close that hole.

You guys need to get a new schtick. Trying to make believe you can wordsmith your way around US Law which appear to barely understand at any level just ain't workin' for you.

Dasvidaniya

SO let me make sure we are on the same page.
Negotiating and with a foreign entity (Christopher Steele) to get dirt on Trump from Russians is no biggie

Digging up dirt on Paul Manafort from the Ukraine is business as usual

Opposition research firms are a multi billion dollar industry and have been digging up dirt on candidates for foreign nationals for 40 years on both parties

The recorded prank call from a Russian comedian offering Adam Schiff naked pictures of Trump and recordings on compromising materials was more than welcomed and Schiff stated, Obviously we would welcome the chance to get copies of those recordings. Thats just business as usual

Trump answer's a hypothetical question and states depending on the information, he would contact the FBI if it was warranted has Democrats now stating that accepting opposition research from foreign nationals is a federal crime?

This is why nobody buys Democrat BS anymore. Liberal hypocrisy is what put Trump in office and will keep him there in 2020. You guys will flip on anything to get a vote kind of like Bidens new campaign strategy. The mroe Democrats play these stupid games, the more people see then for who they are.


Now, out of thin air,
 
Hate to break it to you, but yet again you've just spouted irrelevancies.

It must suck, losing so often and so badly.

My sympathies.

Not at all. Actually happy Democrats never break stride. Its always irrelevant when Democrats get caught in the same trap they try and lay out on their opponents. Its the natural hypocrisy of the party. We got used to it years ago. Its why Trump is in office now.

Less we forget, The recorded prank call from a Russian comedian offering Adam Schiff naked pictures of Trump and recordings on compromising materials was more than welcomed and Schiff stated, Obviously we would welcome the chance to get copies of those recordings. Thats just business as usual

Trump answer's a hypothetical question and states depending on the information, he would contact the FBI if it was warranted has Democrats now stating that accepting opposition research from foreign nationals is a federal crime?

This is why nobody buys Democrat BS anymore. Liberal hypocrisy is what put Trump in office and will keep him there in 2020. You guys will flip on anything to get a vote kind of like Bidens new campaign strategy. The more Democrats play these stupid games, the more people see then for who they are.
 
I like Hillary's idea. If it's going to be allowed, then Democrats should have China provide them support.
 
Not at all. Actually happy Democrats never break stride. Its always irrelevant when Democrats get caught in the same trap they try and lay out on their opponents. Its the natural hypocrisy of the party. We got used to it years ago. Its why Trump is in office now.

Less we forget, The recorded prank call from a Russian comedian offering Adam Schiff naked pictures of Trump and recordings on compromising materials was more than welcomed and Schiff stated, Obviously we would welcome the chance to get copies of those recordings. Thats just business as usual

Trump answer's a hypothetical question and states depending on the information, he would contact the FBI if it was warranted has Democrats now stating that accepting opposition research from foreign nationals is a federal crime?

This is why nobody buys Democrat BS anymore. Liberal hypocrisy is what put Trump in office and will keep him there in 2020. You guys will flip on anything to get a vote kind of like Bidens new campaign strategy. The more Democrats play these stupid games, the more people see then for who they are.

Nah, bruh. twump stated clearly that he'd break the law, he'd be happy to do so and that he's soliciting yet more foreign interference in our elections.

You love that, because you worship both twump and Putin and you want to be ruled by Russian mafia overlords.

2020 is going to be quite painful for Marxists like you and I, for one, am looking forward to that.

What's it like? Losing every time you post?
 
NOPE...the DNC paid the law firm. The law firm contracted Fusion GPS and they contracted Steele....entirely legal.

Steele by the way is a "private contractor". He is no longer a foreign government or a foreign government representative. Sorry wrong again.

Along with Clinton's campaign.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.w...7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?outputType=amp

And I never said it was illegal. I'm pointing out that the Clinton campaign, not the Trump campaign acquired information from a foreign government

Two of Steele's sources were members of the Russian government.
 
You dont get it. Trump trying to fire people and ordering people to fire people and undermining the public's trust in a lawful investigation into Russian meddling -is criminal obstruction.
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Problem number one. less you forget, Trump is the President of the United States. He doesn't try to do anything. He has the executive authority to fire whoever he chooses. On top of which he is claimed to be a power hungry raving maniac so you are going to have to make up your mind as to which person he is.

If he has a conversation with someone internally and says I want to fire (X), and they tell him you can't do that, (and he doesn't do that) this isn't obstruction.
Its called reaching.
 
Why would I want to read an opinion piece?

Why won't you acknowledge the part of the article which is factual? Are you afraid to say how much it highlights the Democratic congress's complete nuttery?

"the Clinton campaign proactively sought dirt on Trump from Russian government sources. They did it through cutouts. In April 2016, Clinton campaign lawyer Marc Elias retained opposition research firm Fusion GPS to compile incriminating information on Trump. Fusion GPS in turn hired Christopher Steele, a former British MI6 operative with sources among Russian government officials. The result was the salacious dossier, whose sources included “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure” and “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.” Steele’s work was paid for by Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. That means a paid agent of the Clinton campaign approached Russian officials for damaging material on Trump."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...d54_story.html
 
Nah, bruh. twump stated clearly that he'd break the law, he'd be happy to do so and that he's soliciting yet more foreign interference in our elections.

You love that, because you worship both twump and Putin and you want to be ruled by Russian mafia overlords.

2020 is going to be quite painful for Marxists like you and I, for one, am looking forward to that.

What's it like? Losing every time you post?

I'm sorry, I must have forgotten. Could you please enlighten me as to who the President of the Untied States is and how many criminal recommendations were provided to Congress by the US Attorney General and the Department of Justice.

What we love even more is when Liberals loose their minds on TV about a hypothetical question and then being caught actually doing the exact thing they are bitching about. Priceless

Can you enlighten us as to how Bidens measly rallies attracting about 200 supporters while Trumps draws 60,000 plus yet Liberals are publicly stating how polls show Biden will have a landslide victory.

If you think this is loosing then yeah, I am loving it. But please continue to show voters how Liberal hypocrisy isn't at issue cuz orange man bad.
 
I'm sorry, I must have forgotten. Could you please enlighten me as to who the President of the Untied States is and how many criminal recommendations were provided to Congress by the US Attorney General and the Department of Justice.

Absolutely irrelevant to the congressional probes into his behavior and the now 28 different state and federal criminal investigations into twump.
What we love even more is when Liberals loose their minds on TV about a hypothetical question and then being caught actually doing the exact thing they are bitching about. Priceless

Can you enlighten us as to how Bidens measly rallies attracting about 200 supporters while Trumps draws 60,000 plus yet Liberals are publicly stating how polls show Biden will have a landslide victory.

If you think this is loosing then yeah, I am loving it. But please continue to show voters how Liberal hypocrisy isn't at issue cuz orange man bad.

Sad that a Marxist like you can't make any sense.

Sad, but fun!
 
Why won't you acknowledge the part of the article which is factual? Are you afraid to say how much it highlights the Democratic congress's complete nuttery?

"the Clinton campaign proactively sought dirt on Trump from Russian government sources. They did it through cutouts. In April 2016, Clinton campaign lawyer Marc Elias retained opposition research firm Fusion GPS to compile incriminating information on Trump. Fusion GPS in turn hired Christopher Steele, a former British MI6 operative with sources among Russian government officials. The result was the salacious dossier, whose sources included “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure” and “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.” Steele’s work was paid for by Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. That means a paid agent of the Clinton campaign approached Russian officials for damaging material on Trump."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...d54_story.html

All of that is legal. You want to know why? No quid pro quo would be involved. There was no expectation from any Russians that they'd get any political favors from Clinton because she would have no clue who they were in the first place. Nor did they probably ever know who would eventually get whatever information they were giving out.
 
SO let me make sure we are on the same page.
Negotiating and with a foreign entity (Christopher Steele) to get dirt on Trump from Russians is no biggie

Digging up dirt on Paul Manafort from the Ukraine is business as usual

Opposition research firms are a multi billion dollar industry and have been digging up dirt on candidates for foreign nationals for 40 years on both parties

The recorded prank call from a Russian comedian offering Adam Schiff naked pictures of Trump and recordings on compromising materials was more than welcomed and Schiff stated, Obviously we would welcome the chance to get copies of those recordings. Thats just business as usual

Trump answer's a hypothetical question and states depending on the information, he would contact the FBI if it was warranted has Democrats now stating that accepting opposition research from foreign nationals is a federal crime?

This is why nobody buys Democrat BS anymore. Liberal hypocrisy is what put Trump in office and will keep him there in 2020. You guys will flip on anything to get a vote kind of like Bidens new campaign strategy. The mroe Democrats play these stupid games, the more people see then for who they are.


Now, out of thin air,

"Negotiating and with a foreign entity (Christopher Steele) to get dirt on Trump from Russians is no biggie"
Its not illegal. Its not even unethical. People pay contractors to do all sorts of things that are not illegal though might be immoral.

"Digging up dirt on Paul Manafort from the Ukraine is business as usual"
I don't even know what this means. Nobody has to "dig" for dirt on this scumbag

"Opposition research firms are a multi billion dollar industry and have been digging up dirt on candidates for foreign nationals for 40 years on both parties"
Its not illegal. Its not even unethical though it might be immoral.

"The recorded prank call from a Russian comedian offering Adam Schiff naked pictures of Trump and recordings on compromising materials was more than welcomed and Schiff stated, Obviously we would welcome the chance to get copies of those recordings. Thats just business as usual"
You mean the call that Schiff's Committee staff informed the FBI of both BEFORE AND AFTER the call, telling the FBI at the same time that they believed it to be a HOAX? You mean that call?

The rest of your post is not even worth responding to.

I expect better information sources at the IRA than there appears to be.
 
Absolutely irrelevant to the congressional probes into his behavior and the now 28 different state and federal criminal investigations into twump.

Sad that a Marxist like you can't make any sense.

Sad, but fun!

Sounds more like more TDSing to me. What I love most about Trump, is his ability to expose Liberal idiots for who they really are. When a single President can get Liberals to march in Vagina costumes, scream at the sky rallies, beat on the doors of the Supreme court, burn businesses, rally to stop free speech, form ANTIFA to block interstates and attack supporters, and tank CNNs ratings to the least watched cable news resource in the business for fake news, you just gotta love this guy.

Please continue the Marxist claims as we do love the show.
 
Sounds more like more TDSing to me. What I love most about Trump, is his ability to expose Liberal idiots for who they really are. When a single President can get Liberals to march in Vagina costumes, scream at the sky rallies, beat on the doors of the Supreme court, burn businesses, rally to stop free speech, form ANTIFA to block interstates and attack supporters, and tank CNNs ratings to the least watched cable news resource in the business for fake news, you just gotta love this guy.

Please continue the Marxist claims as we do love the show.

Sad that a Marxist like you worships a known mob affiliate.

Sort speaks volumes about your bitterness in life.
 
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