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Democrats ARE For Open Borders

Ummmmmmmmmm. Just to start off, how much do you think it costs to run all of these detention camps and all of the court proceedings involved? And that's just the beginning.

Weekly Chart: The Cost of U.S. Immigrant Detention Centers | AS/COA
Putting people in detention camps is essentially putting them on an all inclusive welfare program. Releasing them means they have to find work, get support from friends or relatives, etc. Much cheaper.

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That seems more like a failure of policy rather than an inherent cost of immigration. Maybe don't put them in cages? You guys ever think of that one?

It's one of the fastest growing industries in America today. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ !!!
 
Yeah, 'cause if it were all brown, it'd be "terrifying". :eek:

No way! Well, it does seem to be the case but only in some people's minds. The brown and white mixture makes that dessert deliciously tasty.

Oh, by the way my children are are mixture of brown and white and they are not terrifying.

Their father was born in Hawaii and he is a mixture of Filipino, Spanish and Chinese. I add more to the mix besides just white, Cherokee Indian and Hebrew roots. (Levi)

Roseann:)
 
Why do they keep denying it? They give illegals numerous incentives to come here.

California lawmakers agree to health benefits for immigrants
This is not the revelation you thought it would be. It is well known that the Democratic Party supports absolutely everything that would do the most harm to the nation. They have always supported the destruction of the US since the party was created in 1828 out of sheer spite and hatred. Open borders is just the latest way the Democratic Party can harm the nation.
 
No way! Well, it does seem to be the case but only in some people's minds. The brown and white mixture makes that dessert deliciously tasty.

Oh, by the way my children are are mixture of brown and white and they are not terrifying.

Their father was born in Hawaii and he is a mixture of Filipino, Spanish and Chinese. I add more to the mix besides just white, Cherokee Indian and Hebrew roots. (Levi)

Roseann:)

I know they are. I've seen their beautiful faces.

Sad how some radical leftists continue to stereotype us all as white, fearful, living in our fancy bubbles.
 
I know they are. I've seen their beautiful faces.

Sad how some radical leftists continue to stereotype us all as white, fearful, living in our fancy bubbles.

Thank You for the compliment:) And, I totally agree!

Yes, it is so sad:(

I think, that is just part of the :bs :spin: tactic generated by the "by any means necessary" mindset.

Roseann:)
 
No way! Well, it does seem to be the case but only in some people's minds. The brown and white mixture makes that dessert deliciously tasty.

Oh, by the way my children are are mixture of brown and white and they are not terrifying.

Their father was born in Hawaii and he is a mixture of Filipino, Spanish and Chinese. I add more to the mix besides just white, Cherokee Indian and Hebrew roots. (Levi)

Roseann:)

Charlie have you ever seen anyone who is truly white? I haven't. Well maybe their death bed where all life is leaving them. The closest thing to white would be a snowman. When this country was in its early years there were a lot of nationalities/races marrying and producing children. On my mother's side they were Irish, English, French. On my father's side they were immigrants of Mediterranean with Jewish roots and their skin was very olive. My mother's side has roots dating back to the Mayflower. But it was my great great great grandfather on my mother's side that married a Shawnee princes when after the Revolutionary war was granted land in Ohio for his serviced that was not a state but a wilderness full of different Indian tribes. One of his sons became my great great grandfather. He and his wife produced 4 sons. An Indian tribe not Shawnee attacked his homestead and scalped them but left the children unharmed. The four boys were 6 years and under and were split up to nearby settlers to be raised. They served in the Civil War and they too were granted lands in Ohio for their service.

I am really fed up with this worn out race card the left plays over and over again and I truly believe the majority of the people are too.
 
I am but I want it done traditional ways like actually enforcing employment laws and coming up with logical immigration reform to deal with the people here are hard working and will contribute to our country.

Funny how our current immigration doesn't mind this "crisis" is making their buddies richer. They love exploiting people coming here for a better life.

You can't cut down illegal immigration when Democrats give them all kinds of incentives to come here.
 
Putting people in detention camps is essentially putting them on an all inclusive welfare program. Releasing them means they have to find work, get support from friends or relatives, etc. Much cheaper.

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They have children born in the US and then all of those children receive government benefits. How about passing a law that government benefits are not given to the children of illegals?
 
They have children born in the US and then all of those children receive government benefits. How about passing a law that government benefits are not given to the children of illegals?
Sorry, I know you absolutely hate it, but those children are US citizens with all the rights that you have. I can't imagine you could pass a law saying some citizens are treated differently based on who their parents are. Of course they would only get benefits if they qualify which many do because their parents work in jobs that pay so little they qualify for government benefits. It really makes no sense to me that the minimum wage is so low that if you work 40 hours a week you still qualify for welfare.

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Maybe when it comes time to vote next year Americans will vote for someone who doesn't keep threatening to do things like closing the border or cutting off aid to Central American countries both of which only encourage more people to come here illegally.

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That's a remarkable bit of logic. Thanks for sharing it.
 
Charlie have you ever seen anyone who is truly white? I haven't. Well maybe their death bed where all life is leaving them. The closest thing to white would be a snowman. When this country was in its early years there were a lot of nationalities/races marrying and producing children. On my mother's side they were Irish, English, French. On my father's side they were immigrants of Mediterranean with Jewish roots and their skin was very olive. My mother's side has roots dating back to the Mayflower. But it was my great great great grandfather on my mother's side that married a Shawnee princes when after the Revolutionary war was granted land in Ohio for his serviced that was not a state but a wilderness full of different Indian tribes. One of his sons became my great great grandfather. He and his wife produced 4 sons. An Indian tribe not Shawnee attacked his homestead and scalped them but left the children unharmed. The four boys were 6 years and under and were split up to nearby settlers to be raised. They served in the Civil War and they too were granted lands in Ohio for their service.

I am really fed up with this worn out race card the left plays over and over again and I truly believe the majority of the people are too.

Thanks for bringing up this idea because I have pondered this idea before you mentioned it in this post.

I have never seen anyone who is pure white. Yes and yes... snowman exception would be accidently using a patch of yellow snow. Yes, that was true in the early years and is still happening to this day.

Thank You for sharing some of your family's history. I find people's family history interesting and enjoy hearing family stories.

I have very little information for my mother's side, mother from Austria and father from Ireland.

My father's side, many ancestry names for both his father and mother, so I'll keep it short and only provide the main names...
father Jewish/Hebrew (Levi,Simon,Rice) Indian (Cherokee) mother Scottish (Kilgore) English (Rutherford)

One of my relative's last name Rice died in Confederate Andersonville Prison. History of the Andersonville Prison - Andersonville National Historic Site (U.S. National Park Service)

Back to skin color subject...

The closest to white would be people called albinos. Their skin is whitish but not pure white they have a tinge of pink to their skin.

The only "race" I recognize is the human race. We are all equals as human beings. I find, regardless of color when you smile and say "hi" the majority of people respond with a smile and at least return the "hi" but sometimes it turns into a conversation.

The color of each person's skin has very little to do with who we are as a persons, what determines skin color is something called melanin.

Melanin definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary

Melanin is a dark substance in the skin, eyes, and hair of people and animals, which gives them color and can protect them against strong sunlight.

What is Albinism? | National Organization for Albinism and Hypopigmentation

So, I think judging people by the color of their skin is illogical.

Do you know there are real blue people?

Blue Fugates - Wikipedia

True story my Dad's nose starting turning blue he went to see his doctor and the doctor explained to him a medication he was taking sometimes caused blue skin. He changed Dad's medication and after awhile his nose returned to his natural color.

I am also fed up with the color of skin being used to divide us and I agree the majority of people are too.

Roseann:)
 
Sorry, I know you absolutely hate it, but those children are US citizens with all the rights that you have. I can't imagine you could pass a law saying some citizens are treated differently based on who their parents are. Of course they would only get benefits if they qualify which many do because their parents work in jobs that pay so little they qualify for government benefits. It really makes no sense to me that the minimum wage is so low that if you work 40 hours a week you still qualify for welfare.

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Feds Raid 'Maternity Hotels' Where Tourists Paid Up to $80K to Give Birth in U.S.

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Federal agents raided a slew of luxury “maternity hotels” in California on Wednesday for allegedly housing Chinese women who wanted to give birth in America.

Department of Homeland Security officials stormed 20 locations in Los Angeles, Orange County and San Bernardino County looking for suspected "birth tourism" operations, in which Chinese nationals allegedly paid "handlers" between $40,000 and $80,000 to advise them on obtaining visas, flying through the least suspicious airports and even disguising their pregnancies, NBC News reported.

A growing number of Russians are coming to the U.S. to give birth. These kids will have the right to live and work here, receive social services and, when they turn 21, will have the right to sponsor their parents for an American Green Card.

Roseann:)
 
Sorry, I know you absolutely hate it, but those children are US citizens with all the rights that you have. I can't imagine you could pass a law saying some citizens are treated differently based on who their parents are. Of course they would only get benefits if they qualify which many do because their parents work in jobs that pay so little they qualify for government benefits. It really makes no sense to me that the minimum wage is so low that if you work 40 hours a week you still qualify for welfare.

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Which is exactly my point. If we keep the illegals out then we don't have to spend government dollars taken out of my paycheck to take care of kids which wouldn't be here in the first place if we had kept illegals out.
 
Charlie have you ever seen anyone who is truly white? I haven't. Well maybe their death bed where all life is leaving them. The closest thing to white would be a snowman. When this country was in its early years there were a lot of nationalities/races marrying and producing children. On my mother's side they were Irish, English, French. On my father's side they were immigrants of Mediterranean with Jewish roots and their skin was very olive. My mother's side has roots dating back to the Mayflower. But it was my great great great grandfather on my mother's side that married a Shawnee princes when after the Revolutionary war was granted land in Ohio for his serviced that was not a state but a wilderness full of different Indian tribes. One of his sons became my great great grandfather. He and his wife produced 4 sons. An Indian tribe not Shawnee attacked his homestead and scalped them but left the children unharmed. The four boys were 6 years and under and were split up to nearby settlers to be raised. They served in the Civil War and they too were granted lands in Ohio for their service.

I am really fed up with this worn out race card the left plays over and over again and I truly believe the majority of the people are too.

I think we all are, my friend which begs the question?......

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Feds Raid 'Maternity Hotels' Where Tourists Paid Up to $80K to Give Birth in U.S.

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Federal agents raided a slew of luxury “maternity hotels” in California on Wednesday for allegedly housing Chinese women who wanted to give birth in America.

Department of Homeland Security officials stormed 20 locations in Los Angeles, Orange County and San Bernardino County looking for suspected "birth tourism" operations, in which Chinese nationals allegedly paid "handlers" between $40,000 and $80,000 to advise them on obtaining visas, flying through the least suspicious airports and even disguising their pregnancies, NBC News reported.

A growing number of Russians are coming to the U.S. to give birth. These kids will have the right to live and work here, receive social services and, when they turn 21, will have the right to sponsor their parents for an American Green Card.

Roseann:)

GOOD!

We, as taxpaying citizens, need to discourage the gravy train.
 
GOOD!

We, as taxpaying citizens, need to discourage the gravy train.
I don't think you have to worry to much about wealthy foreigners coming over here and going on food stamps. If you are Chinese and have 40 to 80k to plunk down for this service you are probably going to go back home and have your kid educated up to grade 8 over there. The Chinese do often want to send their kids to American colleges both because we have some of the best and because it's still really hard to get into Chinese colleges. I happen to know someone who teaches in an exclusive (close to $40K/yr) private high school on Palm Beach Island (yes that's where Miralago is). She says that they have a lot of Chinese students who come there for high school. She says it's kind of embarrassing because when they get there they are usually way ahead of the American students. Going to a high school like that and getting good grades there is a real leg up if you want to go to a top ranked US college. I expect many of these baby factory kids are headed this route. The wealthy are pretty much the same everywhere, they will find and exploit every loophole they can.

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Back on thread topic.

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