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Tesla sued after 2-year-old accidentally crashes Model X into his pregnant mother | Fox News
Harcourt, who took ownership of the car on Dec. 23, claims that she left the Model X parked in the driveway outside of her garage with its powered “Falcon Wing” rear doors open as she and her son went into their home. The boy then ran back to the car and climbed into the front seat and she went back to get him.
Harcourt recalls passing in front of the car when it accelerated toward her with the rear doors still opened, pushed her through the garage and held her against the back wall until neighbors arrived and were able to move it away from her. The Model X does not have a start button and is active when the keyfob is within range.
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You know, if you put the parking brake on... or actually parented and controlled your kid... nah you see $$ and your lawyer is salivating over this one ain't they?
 
There will probably be a 'go away' settlement shortly for this matter.
 
Renae said:
Tesla sued after 2-year-old accidentally crashes Model X into his pregnant mother | Fox News


You know, if you put the parking brake on... or actually parented and controlled your kid... nah you see $$ and your lawyer is salivating over this one ain't they?
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Did you actually read the article? This model has an "auto pilot" that does not have a "start" button and automatically is activated when the keyfob is within range. The woman was seriously hurt, with several broken bones and the accident led to premature birth of her baby.

What a rude, nasty post, blaming the woman for what happened when in fact it very well may have been a flaw in the software of the automobile itself.
 
DiAnna said:
Did you actually read the article? This model has an "auto pilot" that automatically that does not have a "start" button and automatically is activated when the keyfob is within range. The woman was seriously hurt, with several broken bones and the accident led to premature birth of her baby.

What a rude, nasty post.
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Yes, as usual you show up and are nasty, and rude and only here to attack me. Your post brings nothing to the table. The car accelerated because she:
1. Didn't put the PARKING BREAK ON
2. Her child climbed into the driver's seat

She was hurt because of her own failures first. Had she put the parking break on... the car wouldn't move. Had she positive control of her child, she wouldn't be hurt. So her two failures directly lead to her injuries.

That's not nasty, that's saying I'm tired of people blaming everyone ELSE for their **** ups and failures and then looking for the big money lawsuit afterwards.
 
DiAnna said:
Did you actually read the article? This model has an "auto pilot" that does not have a "start" button and automatically is activated when the keyfob is within range. The woman was seriously hurt, with several broken bones and the accident led to premature birth of her baby.

What a rude, nasty post, blaming the woman for what happened when in fact it very well may have been a flaw in the software of the automobile itself.
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What mean and rude nasty post you made, attacking me for pointing out that the car wouldn't have moved had she followed basic car safety:
Parking brake on
Not letting a 2 year old in the front seat...
 
Renae said:
Yes, as usual you show up and are nasty, and rude and only here to attack me. Your post brings nothing to the table. The car accelerated because she:
1. Didn't put the PARKING BREAK ON
2. Her child climbed into the driver's seat

She was hurt because of her own failures first. Had she put the parking break on... the car wouldn't move. Had she positive control of her child, she wouldn't be hurt. So her two failures directly lead to her injuries.

That's not nasty, that's saying I'm tired of people blaming everyone ELSE for their **** ups and failures and then looking for the big money lawsuit afterwards.
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Lol, I gotta say, when it comes to debate you could be emotionally compromised by a light breeze.

Pure victim mentality as usual and the amount of times you accuse others of being emotion... Simply projection.
 
I'm taking the mother's side on this.

Instead of making their cars as sophisticated as possible, Tesla ought to be making them as idiot proof as possible. What's wrong with putting in a start button?

Children do a lot of unexpected things and parents cant be there to stop them every time.

If Tesla truly wants to mass produce their cars for everybody, then they ought to have basic safety features so a kid cant drive them.
 
PoS said:
I'm taking the mother's side on this.

Instead of making their cars as sophisticated as possible, Tesla ought to be making them as idiot proof as possible. What's wrong with putting in a start button?

Children do a lot of unexpected things and parents cant be there to stop them every time.

If Tesla truly wants to mass produce their cars for everybody, then they ought to have basic safety features so a kid cant drive them.
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While a start button would help, the problem started with car in a drivable state, doors open and a toddler running loose.
 
DiAnna said:
Did you actually read the article? This model has an "auto pilot" that does not have a "start" button and automatically is activated when the keyfob is within range. The woman was seriously hurt, with several broken bones and the accident led to premature birth of her baby.

What a rude, nasty post, blaming the woman for what happened when in fact it very well may have been a flaw in the software of the automobile itself.
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Leaving the car not only unlocked but with the doors open and not setting the parking break were huge contributing factors. I agree with you that the "user friendly" technology played a part but not that it was the cause of the situation.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Lol, I gotta say, when it comes to debate you could be emotionally compromised by a light breeze.

Pure victim mentality as usual and the amount of times you accuse others of being emotion... Simply projection.
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That is a great post on the OP, and really helps further discussion at hand, it's good to see DP is about discussing the issues and not snarking at other posters, that would be bush league.
 
Renae said:
While a start button would help, the problem started with car in a drivable state, doors open and a toddler running loose.
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Ive been raising a toddler for a few years now, and yeah they do a lot of crazy things. According to the article the car went into a driving state when someone pressed on the brakes and the car doors closed by themselves due to that input. There'll be more types of accidents like this if Tesla sells more cars. I'm just glad the woman and her unborn baby didnt die.
 
Renae said:
While a start button would help, the problem started with car in a drivable state, doors open and a toddler running loose.
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There are many things in the typical garage that should not be left for unattended two-year-olds to explore.
 
PoS said:
Ive been raising a toddler for a few years now, and yeah they do a lot of crazy things. According to the article the car went into a driving state when someone pressed on the brakes and the car doors closed by themselves due to that input. There'll be more types of accidents like this if Tesla sells more cars. I'm just glad the woman and her unborn baby didnt die.
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I'm quite pleased too, but when you get out of your vehicle, double so with a toddler, you put on the Parking Brake. I dunno, maybe it's just I'm old but I always put the PB on, was taught that from day one. Now if the car has no parking break, that would be a big issue
 
Being 8 months pregnant and trying to keep track of a two-year old is daunting enough; when the kid ran through the house, then back out again with his pregnant mom chasing him, the damned car automatically started as soon as the keyfob, either in her hand or her purse, was within range. She was badly injured and lucky neither she nor her unborn baby were killed.

So what's the OP's response? Basically, the bitch had it coming and now just wants a payday because tens of thousands in medical bills were her own damned fault. This thread is nothing more than a mean-spirited, blame-mongering bitchfest.

Now, let's see how many times she responds to this post.

From the article: "The lawsuit argues that the Model X should have additional safety interlocks to prevent the type of scenario and that the feature that automatically closes the door when the brake pedal is pressed “is illogical and serves to create numerous dangerous situations.” "
 
Renae said:
Yes, as usual you show up and are nasty, and rude and only here to attack me. Your post brings nothing to the table. The car accelerated because she:
1. Didn't put the PARKING BREAK ON
2. Her child climbed into the driver's seat

She was hurt because of her own failures first. Had she put the parking break on... the car wouldn't move. Had she positive control of her child, she wouldn't be hurt. So her two failures directly lead to her injuries.

That's not nasty, that's saying I'm tired of people blaming everyone ELSE for their **** ups and failures and then looking for the big money lawsuit afterwards.
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Its an automatic transmission there is no need for a parking brake in your own garage
 
ttwtt78640 said:
There are many things in the typical garage that should not be left for unattended two-year-olds to explore.
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Exactly. If you left you power saw on the bottom shelf, plugged in and ready to go, and your toddler chopped their leg off, do you sue the saw manufacturer? Would it be RUDE AND NASTY to point out that you failed to take proper precautions?
 
Crovax said:
Its an automatic transmission there is no need for a parking brake in your own garage
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Does she have a toddler? She does? Then there is a reason for the PB, also, what happened is EXACTLY why one puts on the PB.
 
I would think a simple weight sensor on the drivers seat would solve the problem. Unless there is at least say 50lbs the car wouldn't be able to be placed in a drivable condition. It would still allow for the remote start to cool/warm up the vehicle but also prevent kids from doing this.
 
Renae said:
Does she have a toddler? She does? Then there is a reason for the PB, also, what happened is EXACTLY why one puts on the PB.
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No if the Tesla was like every other car every made that required a start mechanism. Its a parking brake not an I have a toddler brake. You use it for inclines not garages.
 
DiAnna said:
Being 8 months pregnant and trying to keep track of a two-year old is daunting enough; when the kid ran through the house, then back out again with his pregnant mom chasing him, the damned car automatically started as soon as the keyfob, either in her hand or her purse, was within range. She was badly injured and lucky neither she nor her unborn baby were killed.

So what's the OP's response? Basically, the bitch had it coming and now just wants a payday because tens of thousands in medical bills were her own damned fault. This thread is nothing more than a mean-spirited, blame-mongering bitchfest.

Now, let's see how many times she responds to this post.

From the article: "The lawsuit argues that the Model X should have additional safety interlocks to prevent the type of scenario and that the feature that automatically closes the door when the brake pedal is pressed “is illogical and serves to create numerous dangerous situations.” "
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Always an excuse for why it's not her fault. if only the car maker had made the car safe for distracted people that don't follow basic car safety...
 
Renae said:
Exactly. If you left you power saw on the bottom shelf, plugged in and ready to go, and your toddler chopped their leg off, do you sue the saw manufacturer? Would it be RUDE AND NASTY to point out that you failed to take proper precautions?
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if the power saw automatically turned on when the toddler came next to it then yes you sue the manufacturer
 
Chillfolks said:
I would think a simple weight sensor on the drivers seat would solve the problem. Unless there is at least say 50lbs the car wouldn't be able to be placed in a drivable condition. It would still allow for the remote start to cool/warm up the vehicle but also prevent kids from doing this.
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Then that would be discriminating against dwarf drivers... just saying. :2razz:
 
Crovax said:
No if the Tesla was like every other car every made that required a start mechanism. Its a parking brake not an I have a toddler brake. You use it for inclines not garages.
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Tell that to:
How and When to Use Your E-Brake? - Nationwide
When to use emergency brakes
You should use your emergency brake every time you park. It doesn’t matter if you're on a hill or a flat parking lot, whether you drive an automatic or manual transmission, or whether the weather is pleasant or inclement.

As the name suggests, you should also use your emergency brake in an emergency. If you can't stop your car, slowly pull up on the emergency brake handle or press the pedal down to come to a complete stop.
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Guess they are idiots?

How about:

To Engage, or Not to Engage: When do I use my parking brake?
The short answer: whenever you park! “Whether your car is a manual or automatic, the terrain is hilly or flat, you should use your parking brake every time you park,” writes Driver’s Ed Guru.

The parking brake is essential to your safety and those around you. Your car’s brakes are controlled by something called a parking pawl, which is basically a device that locks up your transmission when you put your car in park. Without it, your vehicle would roll away!
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When to Use Your Parking Brake | Firestone Complete Auto Care

If you’re driving a manual-transmission car, particularly if you’re starting on a hill, you can use the emergency brake to hold the vehicle. That way, you don’t have to worry about rolling down the hill while you switch from the brake pedal to the accelerator. It also helps you reduce wear on the clutch.

Know When to Use Your Emergency Brake - More Often!You can use your emergency brake to park your car on level ground, too. When you park your car, put it in neutral, set the emergency brake, then release the brake pedal. With the emergency brake holding the vehicle, put the transmission in gear or “Park,” and shut off the car. It reduces pressure on the clutch, transmission, parking pawl and CV joints — and reduced pressure means reduced wear.
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Car Myths Debunked – When to Use Your Emergency BrakeNAPA Know How Blog
Napa, Firestone, Nationwide all agree with me... because it's comm.. well was common sense, I guess these days it's not so much.
 
Renae said:
Exactly. If you left you power saw on the bottom shelf, plugged in and ready to go, and your toddler chopped their leg off, do you sue the saw manufacturer? Would it be RUDE AND NASTY to point out that you failed to take proper precautions?
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I always make a point of cautioning my customers that when my job trailer is on site, which remains open/unlocked while I am working, that they should be aware that it contains many very dangerous tools and should not allow children near it.
 
Crovax said:
if the power saw automatically turned on when the toddler came next to it then yes you sue the manufacturer
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The car didnt' start because the kid was near the car, it moved cause he climbed in the front of the car and pushed peddles in an unsecured vehicle.
 
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