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How stupid is your president

Ikari said:
The deepest part of the ocean is the Challenger Deep at 36,070 feet. The Exosphere extends to 6200 miles, but the Kármán line (which is used to mark the boundary into outer space) is at 62 miles.
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But you missed the most important part, how stupid is your president. Oh by the way the other stuff was interesting.
 
veritas1 said:
If America is poorly educated, blame those who have monopolized the education system for the last 60 years.
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And that would be....Americans?
 
veritas1 said:
If America is poorly educated, blame those who have monopolized the education system for the last 60 years.
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Ya we should do it the hate party way and cut every dime we can out of it , Hypocrite. Stupid vote will vote for a hate group that lies non stop.
 
jbander said:
Ya we should do it the hate party way and cut every dime we can out of it , Hypocrite. Stupid vote will vote for a hate group that lies non stop.
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Exhibit A of said monopolization.
 
jbander said:
Well , that's a easy question, His Tariff war against other countries. If ding bat put a tariff on a product and that product is still purchased by a American wholesaler . who pays the tariff. Then a retailer buys from the wholesaler , who pays the tariff and you buy it from the retailer who pays the tariff.. do the math 150 billion in tariffs on china divided by our population 325 000000- 150000000000 divided by 325000000=$469 increase of prices for every man women and child . Basically lowering the standard of living by that amount for every person in this country, Family of 5would be $2307.00 decrease in this family of five's income. The rights leader has never heard the phrase from every economist , YOU CAN"T WIN A TRADE WAR< NO ONE WINS< but a stupid president seems that the rule doesn't include him.
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Even Chuck Schumer told Trump to hang tough on China. How stupid is it of a poster to not even know that?
 
Rogue Valley said:
The American middle class is waking up. They got screwed with the Trump/GOP tax giveaway of 2017, and they're getting screwed again by Trumps tariffs.

And now the trade deficit, the federal debt, and the federal deficit are all at historic highs.
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The middle class didn't get screwed at all. They got a tax cut. About the only exception are rich people in high taxed states like California and New York who had their SALT deductions capped at $10,000. And yet the left complain that rich people have to pay more in taxes after supposedly claiming that that is what they wanted.
 
jnug said:
Prices of everyday items has been on the rise and these latest tariffs are aimed right at them. You may not have been hit till now unless you were trying to buy a washing machine or some other household appliance. But Wallmart, the king of staple goods discounting has already announced its customers would be facing price increases now.
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I find it so funny how the left want to raise the minimum wage to $15 per hour, causing prices of goods to go up everywhere permanently, including stores like Walmart, but if short term tariffs make prices go up, that's just horrible. And the left complain about jobs going overseas to places like China and yet when we throw tariffs on them, causing Americans to want to buy more American to keep American jobs, all of a sudden that's horrible.
 
Chomsky said:
My post was a flippant reply to the very hyperbolic thread title.

However I wish I knew how to solve income equality, but I don't. My best advice would be to get a smart education, and place yourself in a position where you're not competing with 3rd world labor. But that's getting more difficult by the day, and now even Trump went on TV to promote bringing-in more highly-educated foreign workers, including their families, and giving them citizenship!

So yeah our government, as part of the business-government plutocracy, is really fudging us over at every turn! They hollowed-out the working-class with decades of illegal immigration, and now they seem to be gunning for the technical-professional class!

It's quite depressing. But if we cut-off the immigration, which is my desire, and we let wages rise in America, our corporations will move overseas even more rapidly. So we're really screwed here. I just don't see any way to beat the economic forces of globalization. All we can do is try to position ourselves as individuals, the best we can. Which quite honestly, is really all most of us can ever do in life.
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Your post was just yet the 100 millionth case of where the anti-Trumpsters are so disgusted with Trump being president that they forgo all attempts at honest debate and use every opportunity they get to post yet another anti-Trump post.
 
Jetboogieman said:
So, does China do certain things that are unfavourable in terms of trade, absolutely.

However the question is, does Trump really know what he’s doing?

He seems to struggle with basic reality most of the time, he doesn’t demonstrate he really understands much of what he’s doing, so does he really understand the full implications of the Trade War he’s starting?

Especially when it’s between the worlds two largest economies that could have massive knock on affects that could destabilize the global economy?

Trade wars can spiral out of control extremely fast and end up hurting both sides, so the question comes down to again, does Trump really know what he’s doing and if it does spiral out of control is the American consumer willing to take the hit in the short term for some vague payoff later that may or may not materialize?

We may just find out by in terms of income inequality we know for sure that the usual republican tax plan of making the rich even richer with unnecessary tax cuts seems a bigger issue to me than Chinese trade practices.
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Trump does not favor liberal policies. Therefore, anyone who is a liberal doesn't think Trump knows what he is doing.
 
washunut said:
Your response is interesting as it i along the lines of an allegedly "smart" president,Obama. I say allegedly because at least to me it is the wrong answer to a very large problem. As an example regardless of how many kids to go college and study accounting, the big 4 firms won't hire more accountants. Pick a field and use the same response. Will Apple or Google hire more programmers because 5X the kids take that in college, no. In addition their are only so many people with the aptitude to even strive for these smart education. We were lucky, many not so much so.

As you I don't know the answer but I do think it is not one magic button to push. It is a lot of things that will make it attractive enough to produce things in America where folks will get an income which will allow their families to have a decent life.

Sadly I have come to believe that politicians have neither the skills to work those issues nor the desire. The lack of desire stems from the ability to use the dire place many Americans live in to bash the other party. Fixing major problems takes issues off the table,not good for collecting the $$$ needed to run campaigns.

It will take things to get materially worse and the population to say a pox on both your houses for things to get fixed. Perhaps I am to cynical ina way I hope I am.
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More and more Americans call themselves Independents every day.
 
jbander said:
tariff WILL COST EVERY MAN WOMEN AND CHILD $460 A YEAR. TELL ME AGAIN ABOUT INCOME INEQUALITY
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Part of the problem of inequality is that Democrats have let the higher paying manufacturing jobs go to China and they have done it without a fight. By Trump putting tariffs on Chinese goods it makes Americans buy more American, eventually giving more higher paying jobs to Americans. Even Chuck Schumer backs Trump on China. Are you willing to call Schumer all the names you call Trump?
 
jbander said:
Income equality is simple, pull back every right wing tax cut, starting and at the top of the list Reagan's Trickle down lie. That is the whole story. Don't believe me just look at any income equality chart going back to 1981.
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What is it with you creationists who think the Earth is only a few decades old?
 
jbander said:
don't agree at all, you sound like a right winger, you educate your population, you raise there ability to compete in the world market. The right wants to keep them stupid for obvious reasons.
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Washnut is not a right winger. Funny how you guys who think everyone who is not a socialist is a right winger.
 
jbander said:
Look at the numbers , we could be all living on streets paved with gold if we tear down the tax system that distributes every dime of new profits to the top which has been the case for the last 40 years. The profits are massive massive massive , the distribution is to the top few. There is more then enough to keep the wealthy ungodly rich and have enough to bring up the standard of living for the other 97% of the population massively.Not a little but a massive increase.
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People need incentives to get ahead. That's what makes the machine run. If you take away all incentives to get rich then the machine would break. Our economy grows at exponential rates because everyone has the incentive to get rich, unless they would rather just sit on their hands and be poor. Socialism has always failed because there is no incentive to better yourself. Why would anyone want to be a doctor if doctors and cashiers all earned the same amount?
 
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btthegreat said:
Once upon a time, we saw collective bargaining as the great equalizer and it actually worked for decades. Now we need unions on steroids with Marvel superpowers to fight the impact of globalization, but what we are getting is weakened unions with declining membership, unstable funding sources, and decreased political power. Until we figure out a newer more effective and borderless model for collective worker action and response, we will stay doomed. I don't know what that successful model looks like.
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The left would rather export jobs to China and other countries, weakening Unions negotiating power.
 
joko104 said:
I was a union steward in a packinghouse. You?

^ Still another progressive Democrat posting messages furiously demanding he gets to keep his foreign child labor sweatshop slaves. Losing their slaves and quest to have their own slave nation, the Democratic Party demands they can still have their slaves thru foreign slave task masters. But, since you are white and those children aren't, likely you view is they were born to serve the white race.

The Democratic was and remains the party demanding non-white slaves for white people.
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Good analogy. The left claim they are against slavery and yet they do absolutely nothing to fight the slavery in China and other countries who use cheap labor to steal high paying American jobs.
 
btthegreat said:
Y I don't waste time with attention-seekers. Learn how to read a post and then learn how to paraphrase its contents accurately.I know what I advocate for and what I don't advocate for.
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I think he stated it quite well. I totally understood where he was coming from and it's easy to see where you come from.
 
jbander said:
What a senseless joke. I mean come on now , are there any facts in what you say. For many decades now China has had the fastest increase in the standard of living of any country in the world. Is it slowing down, it's on a tare so it probably will, but 6.7% for 2018 in China is outrageous for any country. That puts them on a rate where in 2028 they will be making $21,000.00 a year on average.
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If you think China is so great, why don't you move there? We just had a report come out that China is guilty of releasing gases harming the o-zone layer. Helps their economy, doesn't it?

Study Pinpoints Source of Banned Gas That Saps Ozone Layer: Eastern China - The New York Times
 
jbander said:
Do you offer anything that is the truth, good God go ahead and show us how much the right wing hate party has done for unions over the years compared to what Democrats have done for unions. The problem with forums are the weak minded comments that are worthless and have no value or truth in them.
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Do you offer anything that is the truth, good God go ahead and show us how much the left wing hate party has done for unions over the years. The problem with forums are the weak minded comments that are worthless and have no value or truth in them.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm... first he cuts a very visible tax to buy votes and then he adds an invisible tax using some ($16B?) of it to buy even more votes. I'd call that clever if he can pull it off.
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Since his supporters are stupid, he will probably succeed with his goal of duping them.
 
jbander said:
Ya we should do it the hate party way and cut every dime we can out of it , Hypocrite. Stupid vote will vote for a hate group that lies non stop.
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This morning the New York Times’ Thomas Edsall published an important essay highlighting a new study that analyzed the extent of “lethal mass partisanship.” As Edsall observes, the paper contained some disturbing statistics. Among them, “42 percent of the people in each party view the opposition as ‘downright evil.’” A stunning 20 percent of Democrats and 16 percent of Republicans believe “we’d be better off as a country if large numbers of the opposing party in the public today just died.” And if the opposing party wins the 2020 election, 18 percent of Democrats and 13 percent of Republicans “feel violence would be justified.”




Nancy Pelosi & Trump Impeachment -- Partisan Hate Is Becoming a National Crisis | National Review

It is the Democratic party who has more hate.
 
calamity said:
Since his supporters are stupid, he will probably succeed with his goal of duping them.
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If someone got a $1K federal income tax break and then ends up having to pay $500 more due to increased Chinese tariff rates then how "duped" do you think that they would feel? Do you honestly think that they would prefer reverting back to the Obama federal income tax rates and having more access to Chinese "bargains"?
 
Chomsky said:
My post was a flippant reply to the very hyperbolic thread title.

However I wish I knew how to solve income equality, but I don't. My best advice would be to get a smart education and place yourself in a position where you're not competing with 3rd world labor. But that's getting more difficult by the day, and now even Trump went on TV to promote bringing-in more highly-educated foreign workers, including their families, and giving them citizenship!

So yeah our government, as part of the business-government plutocracy, is really fudging us over at every turn! They hollowed-out the working-class with decades of illegal immigration, and now they seem to be gunning for the technical-professional class!

It's quite depressing. But if we cut-off the immigration, which is my desire, and we let wages rise in America, our corporations will move overseas even more rapidly. So we're really screwed here. I just don't see any way to beat the economic forces of globalization. All we can do is try to position ourselves as individuals, the best we can. Which quite honestly, is really all most of us can ever do in life.
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And then there are robots and forms of AI that are beginning to replace human workers.

Electronic check-in kiosks are now replacing receptionists in some areas at Mayo Clinic. Driverless US Mail trucks are now running from Dallas to Phoenix. Automated pharmacy carts now travel from hospital pharmacies to every floor and every hospital room quietly delivering medications and then returning to the pharmacy when the deliveries are completed.

We all know many examples of jobs being replaced by technology. That's not necessarily a good thing but it is what it is and jobs will be/are being lost.
 
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