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Banks surrender documents

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iguanaman said:
LOL Over 200 documented contacts with Russian operatives while Trump and his minions was denying he had any. His campaign chairman gave campaign data to a Russian agent while Trump was telling his crowds that it could be anybody who did the hacking of the DNC. And then when he was elected he invited his Russian buddies into the oval office and gave them secret info while that all had a good laugh. They were laughing at YOU.
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You should have contacted Mueller while you had the chance.
 
tres borrachos said:
You seem to not understand what I said.

The Republicans weren't hurt by the impeachment of Bill Clinton or the never-ending, extremely costly Starr investigation, which ended up yielding pretty much nothing.
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I understood it perfectly and it's not an apples to apples comparison. Had it happened in Clinton's first term and then had the Republicans won in 1996, that would be analogous to what is now transpiring.
 
Hypothetical said:
Great, well I see this as a breach of a citizen's rights, but if it is done , it is done... so... and so what do you expect we will find? and do you therefore think that this is ok to do to ANY citizen of the US?
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If you can do this to the President, then you can do it to anybody. That includes Congress and yes, even the Clinton's and the Obama's.

This may be a can of worms the left will wish they had kept closed.
 
veritas1 said:
I understood it perfectly and it's not an apples to apples comparison. Had it happened in Clinton's first term and then had the Republicans won in 1996, that would be analogous to what is now transpiring.
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Did the impeachment of Clinton hurt the Republicans - yes or no? If yes, show me how.
 
Most transparent president ever requires how many subpoenas and court orders to, well, be transparent.

Very stable jeenyus.
 
tres borrachos said:
Did the impeachment of Clinton hurt the Republicans - yes or no? If yes, show me how.
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Maybe. Perhaps Bush would have beaten Gore more handily without it. The only true test, as I said, would have been if Clinton were on the ticket again.
 
Obscurity said:
Most transparent president ever requires how many subpoenas and court orders to, well, be transparent.

Very stable jeenyus.
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Obama spent $36M fighting the release of documents. His was the most opaque administration ever. Trump should fight this political witch hunt BS. If they wanted to see these records, they should have gotten them back in 2015.
 
veritas1 said:
Obama spent $36M fighting the release of documents. His was the most opaque administration ever.
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Obama isn't president, so your reply is completely useless.

Try again.
 
veritas1 said:
Obama spent $36M fighting the release of documents. His was the most opaque administration ever. Trump should fight this political witch hunt BS. If they wanted to see these records, they should have gotten them back in 2015.
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Link?
 
tres borrachos said:
Thanks. Haven't had a chance to read through it yet but I will in a few minutes. So you agree with me that all Presidents should release documents when asked?
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Not in all cases. Not in the case of gratifying partisan political desires because the 2 year, $35 million dollar investigation they demanded didn't produce the results they wanted.
 
veritas1 said:
Not in all cases. Not in the case of gratifying partisan political desires because the 2 year, $35 million dollar investigation they demanded didn't produce the results they wanted.
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So you don't want Presidents to be transparent? Interesting. I do. All of them. Including Trump.

If you're talking about Mueller, i think it produced a lot. Lots of people who were criminals are now going to jail. And he showed 10 instances of potential obstruction by Trump. That's what Congress will investigate. That and what happened when he was "Individual 1".
 
veritas1 said:
It's not useless at all. It demonstrates the left's double standards.
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Whataboutisms are useless, just like your reason for posting here.
 
veritas1 said:
No POTUS has gotten the 24/7 barrage for two years that Trump has gotten. Not Clinton, not Obama, nobody. 90% of the Trump stories the MSM has run since the election, have been negative. Yea, that's all coincidental I'm sure.
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Trump deserves it; he's a crook, a racist and an incompetent idiot who needs to do America a favour and piss off back to Mar-a-****ing-Lago and stay there to fester, gazing adoringly at his portrait.
 
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Hypothetical said:
Great, well I see this as a breach of a citizen's rights, but if it is done , it is done... so... and so what do you expect we will find? and do you therefore think that this is ok to do to ANY citizen of the US?
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It probably is if they are under investigation. Al Capone and all that. As to what we will find, perhaps nothing amiss, but the public record on Trump suggests otherwise.
 
Roadvirus said:
Whatever.

Like I said: Enjoy the abuse of power now. When it's the GOP's turn, the Dems will wish they hadn't pissed around with this ****.
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Like Trumps phony "national emergency" after Congress said no to $5.4 billion for his vanity wall isn't an abuse of power.

Now Trump is stealing that money from our military.

You sure are selective on what does and doesn't rattle your "moral compass".
 
veritas1 said:
And the IRS is incapable of detecting such things but Schiff and Nadler can? What's it got to do with anything Trump has done as POTUS? Not a thing.
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Citation that "the IRS is incapable of detecting such things" please.
 
JMR said:
I'm not so sure it is money Trump owes....as much as money Trump has laundered. And why would he do that ?
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Losing over a billion dollars, business after business, dozens failing, the opportunity to make 'fast cash' by laundering money from Russian organized crime and Putin... no way he'd grab that life preserver. He's say it was wrong and refuse and turn them in. Just like he turned in Russians to the FBI in the election for contacts offering to interfere in the election. He puts the law above his benefits from crimes.
 
JustHanging said:
Citation that "the IRS is incapable of detecting such things" please.
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I think he was trying to be sarcastic about the IRS not being able to audit the rich.

But he's wrong.

Actually, the IRS *is* largely unable to audit the rich. This is an issue going back to at least Bush, when Republicans keep slashing IRS budgets for anything auditing the people they want to protect - the high income tax returns, right-wing groups abusing tax exempt status, etc. At the same time, they increased spending on automated systems that find any errors in the low-wage, automated returns.

So the rich have been getting away with murder on tax cheating for quite a while.

Why the Rich Don’t Get Audited - The New York Times
 
Rogue Valley said:
Like Trumps phony "national emergency" after Congress said no to $5.4 billion for his vanity wall isn't an abuse of power.

Now Trump is stealing that money from our military.

You sure are selective on what does and doesn't rattle your "moral compass".
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"phony" national emergency?
500K+ apprehensions at the border YTD and it's only damn near June. Sounds like a real emergency to me.
 
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