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Supporters hope Trump gets away with it

Sand Castle said:
Obama's economy lead to this economy but Trump tweaked it in a negative way for average Americans
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lot of lemmings believe this..not a lot of them will say it out loud. )
 
Sand Castle said:
Bubble, Bubble, no changes for working Americans same jobs stagnant wages, factories closing, foreign customer service agents when contacting corporations. Like I said the bubble is creating wealth for the wealthy and once again I predict the average tax payer will Suffer when the bubble breaks.
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What a load of crap. A bubble means the economy is doing well. The economy goes up and down. It always has. Working Americans have had larger wage growth under Trump than under Obama, plus their paychecks are higher due to lower taxes.
 
Fletch said:
I agree. Thats why he hasnt testified yet and why there seems to be no movement to make that happen.
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He will give the same speech we got with Hillary. Yes, there are things that look suspicious and MIGHT even be illegal, but not enough that any normal prosecutor would prosecute. Unless you are a liberal prosecutor who is infected with TDS.
 
Moderate Right said:
What a load of crap. A bubble means the economy is doing well. The economy goes up and down. It always has. Working Americans have had larger wage growth under Trump than under Obama, plus their paychecks are higher due to lower taxes.
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Yes I bow to the king for that $2.00/week increase in pay check
 
Moderate Right said:
What a load of crap. A bubble means the economy is doing well. The economy goes up and down. It always has. Working Americans have had larger wage growth under Trump than under Obama, plus their paychecks are higher due to lower taxes.
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Labor Statistics, showing that the much-touted bonuses did little to boost workers’ paychecks. In the past 12 months, cash bonuses only gave workers an extra 2 cents in average hourly compensation, adjusted for inflation. (This does not include bonuses tied to productivity goals.)

Instead, US companies have spent a record amount of money this year buying back shares of company stock, an effort to inflate their value for shareholders. US corporations have announced spending $1 trillion on stock buybacks so far this year. That’s a 64 percent increase from 2017, according to CNN Business. So it’s no mystery why the savings from the GOP tax bill didn’t trickle down to workers. Only a handful of companies (34 from the Fortune 500) said they are using the tax savings to invest in US operations.
 
Moderate Right said:
What a load of crap. A bubble means the economy is doing well. The economy goes up and down. It always has. Working Americans have had larger wage growth under Trump than under Obama, plus their paychecks are higher due to lower taxes.
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Real wages are essentially flat in the past year

As inflation increases it puts a damper on wages. While average hourly earnings have increased from $26.34 per hour to $27.05, or 2.7% over the past year, inflation at 2.9% has actually lead to real wages falling a small amount from $10.78 per hour a year ago to $10.76 in July this year.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
He is a congress critter from Houston who has called for impechment since May 2017.

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I'm pretty sure he was just wondering why you referred to him as "Allan".

His first name is actually Albert, not "Allan".
 
tres borrachos said:
Oh I knew what you meant about Clinton. I just enjoy rubbing Trump Fan Nation's noses in the fact that their hero Donald used to be chummy with, support and donate tons of money to the dreaded Mrs. Clinton.
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He invited her to his wedding! Well one of them anyway.
 
snakestretcher said:
What tax cut? Did you get your promised 10%? No you did not. As for who is corrupt I posted a link to a list of Trump's 'best people' which you evidently ignored.
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You have to actually make enough to be taxed... to get a cut.
 
tres borrachos said:
The one with the lesbian porn model, or the one with the young chippy he cheated on his first wife with?
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The last one, to Melania....though I believe we are supposed to consider her earlier work as "art" not lesbian porn. He married the chippy after she gave birth to Tiffany. It might be interesting to see who came to that wedding.
 
JMR said:
The last one, to Melania....though I believe we are supposed to consider her earlier work as "art" not lesbian porn. He married the chippy after she gave birth to Tiffany. It might be interesting to see who came to that wedding.
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Lesbian porn isn't art, except to one of Trump's drooling supporters.

I remember when he married his mistress Marla after she gave birth to his illegitimate baby.
 
Sand Castle said:
Reading posts on this forum, and listening to supporters of Trump in the media, one can only conclude:

Trump supporters sense his guilt but just want him to get away with his corrupt and criminal deeds.

And please forget the collusion B.S. that is just a deflection.

Lying, obstruction, corrupt appointees, etc that's the Crux of Trump being unfit for Presidency
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Its not that they think he's guilty.Its that they think the claims against him are hogwash and nothing more than the delusions on insane foam at the mouth leftists.
 
Sand Castle said:
Labor Statistics, showing that the much-touted bonuses did little to boost workers’ paychecks. In the past 12 months, cash bonuses only gave workers an extra 2 cents in average hourly compensation, adjusted for inflation. (This does not include bonuses tied to productivity goals.)

Instead, US companies have spent a record amount of money this year buying back shares of company stock, an effort to inflate their value for shareholders. US corporations have announced spending $1 trillion on stock buybacks so far this year. That’s a 64 percent increase from 2017, according to CNN Business. So it’s no mystery why the savings from the GOP tax bill didn’t trickle down to workers. Only a handful of companies (34 from the Fortune 500) said they are using the tax savings to invest in US operations.
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how many americans have 401k plans?

do stock buybacks help them?

or do the rich own ALL of the stock in the country also?

because i know a few secretaries with over 1 million in theirs....

i have quite a bit in mine....hopefully you have some in yours....

cant force employees to put money into these plans....but you can NEVER become wealthier if you never start saving
 
jamesrage said:
Its not that they think he's guilty.Its that they think the claims against him are hogwash and nothing more than the delusions on insane foam at the mouth leftists.
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No, it's the former, not the latter. That's really not up for debate at this point.

The people who sincerely believe the latter (i.e. that all of the claims of sexual misconduct, corruption and incompetence against Trump) are either ignorant, or just brainwashed ideologues; and thus do not merit recongition.
 
ultmd said:
No, it's the former, not the latter. That's really not up for debate at this point.

The people who sincerely believe the latter (i.e. that all of the claims of sexual misconduct, corruption and incompetence against Trump) are either ignorant, or just brainwashed ideologues; and thus do not merit recongition.
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Neither sexual misconduct nor incompetence qualify for impeachment and corruption has not been shown, despite your claims to the contrary. There is no case for impeachment other than to gratify the Trump haters. Plain and simple.
 
ultmd said:
No, it's the former, not the latter. That's really not up for debate at this point.

The people who sincerely believe the latter (i.e. that all of the claims of sexual misconduct, corruption and incompetence against Trump) are either ignorant, or just brainwashed ideologues; and thus do not merit recongition.
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those claims...repeat CLAIMS arent impeachable

they arent crimes

incompetent politicians are everywhere in DC....and on both sides of the aisle
 
veritas1 said:
Neither sexual misconduct nor incompetence qualify for impeachment and corruption has not been shown, despite your claims to the contrary. There is no case for impeachment other than to gratify the Trump haters. Plain and simple.
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LOL, stop saying stupid things, please.

Who said anything about impeachment? Your guilty conscience is becoming part of the issue, here. This thead, and my remarks, are about what the blind support of Trump supporters in the face of the single-most corrupt and incompetent presidency in at least 150 years (if not all of our history). The FACTS related to the corruption, dishonesty and incompetence of Trump and his associates.....are not simply debatable. To argue that there is "no case for impeachment"...is to be dishonest, or just ignorant of the Constitution and the basic facts at hand. You and your ilk know this, but you don't care. And THAT is the subject of this thread.


gdgyva said:
those claims...repeat CLAIMS arent impeachable

they arent crimes

incompetent politicians are everywhere in DC....and on both sides of the aisle
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  • Sexual misconduct isn't an impeachable crime in the conservative world?
  • Lying about sexual misconduct isn't an impeachable offense in the fake "values" world of you right wingers?
  • Violating the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution...repeatedly...isn't impeachable, in your "educated" opinion?
  • Obstructing justice in a federal investigation...at least a DOZEN times...isn't an impeachable offense, to you?


Do you people even understand what impeachment means?

Geez...:roll:
 
ultmd said:
LOL, stop saying stupid things, please.

Who said anything about impeachment? Your guilty conscience is becoming part of the issue, here. This thead, and my remarks, are about what the blind support of Trump supporters in the face of the single-most corrupt and incompetent presidency in at least 150 years (if not all of our history). The FACTS related to the corruption, dishonesty and incompetence of Trump and his associates.....are not simply debatable. To argue that there is "no case for impeachment"...is to be dishonest, or just ignorant of the Constitution and the basic facts at hand. You and your ilk know this, but you don't care. And THAT is the subject of this thread.




  • Sexual misconduct isn't an impeachable crime in the conservative world?
  • Lying about sexual misconduct isn't an impeachable offense in the fake "values" world of you right wingers?
  • Violating the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution...repeatedly...isn't impeachable, in your "educated" opinion?
  • Obstructing justice in a federal investigation...at least a DOZEN times...isn't an impeachable offense, to you?


Do you people even understand what impeachment means?

Geez...:roll:
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  • [*]Sexual misconduct isn't an impeachable crime in the conservative world? when did it happen? can it be proved? is it actually a criminal offense, or just a buffoon acting like a clod...give me exact act you are referring to, as far as dates....and then we can discuss....anything before his presidency is NOT impeachable...no


    [*]Lying about sexual misconduct isn't an impeachable offense in the fake "values" world of you right wingers? what that he had affairs? again...not a CRIME...if it was, half of america would be locked up.....but again....which exact thing are you referring to....and not what he says, but ACTIONS

    [*]Violating the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution...repeatedly...isn't impeachable, in your "educated" opinion? maybe...now prove they have been violated. This is the one rule that IF we have businessman ever run for office again may need to change....to ask someone to sell everything is ridiculous....i know, those are the rules...and he should have known them....but building a real estate empire takes decades, and yet if you win the presidency, you are expected to SELL everything in a few months at fire sale prices? At pennies on the dollar? How does that make any sense at all? Blind trusts work great for stocks and bonds....but businesses require a head to make decisions....i dont know how to fix this, but the rules dont work for anyone in a real business...unless we ONLY want government types to ever run for office.

    [*]Obstructing justice in a federal investigation...at least a DOZEN times...isn't an impeachable offense, to you? I read Mueller's report from front to back. Trump tried to obstruct in a number of ways....failed at most of them. Now if Mueller HAD been fired, and the report hadnt been finished, i would agree to this one. But his subordinates would not do the deed....they told him no....and Mueller continued to carry on with his mission.

    So no, i dont see an impeachment case for Trump right now. I honestly hope the pubs would pick someone else to run, but i know i am dreaming on that one. I didnt vote for him in 16....and i wont in 20. I will probably only vote for the lower parts of the ballot since i wont vote D and cant vote R.

    But you go ahead and keep up with the case....keep giving Trump more ammunition to use. That's what we need...another 4 years of this crap.
 
Sand Castle said:
Reading posts on this forum, and listening to supporters of Trump in the media, one can only conclude:

Trump supporters sense his guilt but just want him to get away with his corrupt and criminal deeds.

And please forget the collusion B.S. that is just a deflection.

Lying, obstruction, corrupt appointees, etc that's the Crux of Trump being unfit for Presidency
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As a Trump supporter, I want you to go for impeachment. What can I do to help dems stop talking about this and simply impeach Trump for winning an election. You need to hurry up...we need this going on all the way up until election day.
 
Renae said:
Yawn, TDS is a sad thing to see. After all teh political grandstanding and moving of goal posts, you guys have gotten insane. First it was a SURE THING Trump was Colluding, then it was a sure thing he was doomed with the Mueller Report now it's obstruction, and when that goes away it'll be the next whatever. Call us when you have something tangible against the man. Yes, he's a boorish ass and should stfo twitter, but instead of attacking him on legit grounds y'all gone insane trying to paint as something far worse, and it makes your side look very small indeed.
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Trump was "colluding". He knew the Russians were intent on helping him before our intelligence services did, welcomed it and "expected to benefit from it" and then lied to voters about it. He even helped the Russian trolls target voters by giving internal campaign data to a Russian agent while complementing Putin as a "great leader". This exactly what we have claimed all along and Mueller verified it as fact. Mueller also documented 5 instances of obstruction and asked Congress to address them. His performance in Helsinki proved he was compromised by Putin and you still deny it. You Trumpists are the deranged ones.
 
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