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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The Mueller report did not declare him innocent. That is a fact.
    Doesn't have to he is already innocent until proven guilty. civics 101. you being obtuse just means as typical you don't know what you are talking about.

    If I go online right now and steal someone's identity, I am guilty of a crime. If they don't catch me, I am still guilty of a crime. If I am tried and found to be not guilty, that is a different thing.
    actually you are arrested on probable cause that you commited a crime. you are still innocent until someone proves you guilty.
    if the state can't prove you guilty then you are innocent. thanks for supporting the fact that you are innocent until you are proven guilty.

    Trump was not on trial. The Mueller report didn't declare him innocent of obstruction. Your lies notwithstanding, that is a fact that people whose brains are working acknowledge.
    He doesn't have to be on trial. presumption of innocence exists even outside the courtroom. yes your lies are not withstanding.
    it doesn't have to declare him innocent. the report gave no opinion on the matter that by default means he is innocent that is how our system works
    no matter what lies you want to tell yourself. then how do you not understand civics 101?

    You declared him innocent. That's your choice. But the rest of us want to see what Congress has to say about it. Unfortunately for you, that is what will happen.
    Nope the law says that he is innocent. it isn't my choice has nothing to do with me.

    congress will declare him innocent as well. that or you don't understand the impeachment process either.
    that is civics 102. might want to go look it up.

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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    TDS has clouded their ability to use any type of logic or reason.
    Their heads lodged up their own asses doesn't help matters either.

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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Exactly.
    And innocent people cannot be investigated, right?
    Not sure in what country you live in but in the US know we usually don't investigate innocent people.

    That's why there is never an investigation until after someone is convicted.
    we already have the info no evidence of wrong doing. what more do you want?

    Why is that so hard for people to get?
    no evidence
    no collusion
    no obstruction
    no coordination.

    what more do you want?

    sorry you don't like facts.

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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    And it's also important for Congress to pass legislation that keeps America running.

    Our infrastructure sucks.
    Healthcare is unaffordable...AGAIN!
    Drug prices are at all-time highs.
    People are pouring over our Southern border by the thousands every week and no place to put them.
    Meanwhile, House Democrats have 100% focused all their energy on getting Trump's finances!

    I would love to be a fly on the wall at one of these Democrat ****ers' town halls next year when they have to face their constituents and get asked the question: "Why should I vote for you later this year when you haven't gotten a damn thing done that improves my life?"
    They've worked on bills to address health care, drug prices, and infrastructure. The question the people are going to ask is "why does the GOP shoot down every bill that a majority of Americans support?"
    “personal attorney” to Individual-1, who at that point had become the President of the United States
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    I don't know who [Individual-1] is and neither do you.

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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cougarbear View Post
    Here is the second time. This time, there is no crime so there is no reason for the Congress to subpoena anything.
    There does not need to be a crime for a congressional subpoena.


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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    The legislative branch is not a law enforcement agency. that is beyond their power.
    they can investigate if there is evidence of a crime from a law enforcement agency.

    there is no evidence of a crime. they are fishing. that is outside their powers.
    LOL.. That’s completely divorced from the reality of congressional powers..


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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Which parts?

    Which part of how the SCotUS conducts its business lets the ScotUS stop, or overrule an impeachment?


    [emphasis added]

    The challenge process involves someone with standing bringing a suit.

    As I have asked previously in re the example about the SCotUS intervening in an impeachment proceeding, would the PotUS have to sue the Legislative Branch to get the SCotUS involved?

    Or is there some other mechanism which is more particular to the relationship among the three branches of govt?
    So who would the person of standing be?

    If the President believed an impeachment was un-constitutional, meaning it did not meet the criteria outlined in the Constitution, the President would be the person of standing who would seek remedy.

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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    Not true. You have not provided links to any such study. That is a blatant falsehood on your part.
    Post #253. I'll look for your apology, but won't expect it.

    That's fine, this is rather boring. The posters on this thread have been like locust, which I find most entertaining.

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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Not sure in what country you live in but in the US know we usually don't investigate innocent people.
    Um, what? Lots of innocent people get investigated.


    we already have the info no evidence of wrong doing. what more do you want?



    no evidence
    no collusion
    no obstruction
    no coordination.

    what more do you want?

    sorry you don't like facts.
    Uhh, "don't interpret this to mean there was no evidence" is literally in Mueller's report but you ****in do you man.
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    I don't know who [Individual-1] is and neither do you.

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    Re: Judge orders Trump Accounts to hand over info to House!

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    So who would the person of standing be?

    If the President believed an impeachment was un-constitutional, meaning it did not meet the criteria outlined in the Constitution, the President would be the person of standing who would seek remedy.
    SCOTUS has no authority to grant remedy, so questions of standing are irrelevant. Congress is the final authority on impeachemnt.
    “personal attorney” to Individual-1, who at that point had become the President of the United States
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    I don't know who [Individual-1] is and neither do you.

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