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Latest move by some democrats

Barnacle said:
See post #22
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Rep. Pramila Jayapal said "If a candidate is pro-life, there is no place available for him or her in the Democrat party."


Logical1 said "Over this last week end there is a move by some democrats to purge the party of any pro life people."


Big difference!!!!
 
Praxas said:
Nope where am I forcing you to get an abortion? Oh yeah I’m not forcing you to get one so I’m not forcing my view on you.
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Um, you are forcing babies to sit still and be hacked to pieces. Yes, that is forcing your your view on them.

You are forcing the law to allow abortions. So yea.
 
BWG said:
Rep. Pramila Jayapal said "If a candidate is pro-life, there is no place available for him or her in the Democrat party."
Logical1 said "Over this last week end there is a move by some democrats to purge the party of any pro life people."
Big difference!!!!
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From my link in post #22:

"... Illinois Democrat Dan Lipinski is one of only a few pro-life Democrats still on Capitol Hill, and he has come under fire from progressive activists who want to defeat him in 2020.

Several groups and Rep. Ro Khanna, a prominent member of the CPC, have come out to endorse Marie Newman, a political with the backing of several pro-choice groups like Planned Parenthood and EMILY’s List.

“In a time when the president and GOP have made it clear that stripping away the fundamental rights of women is at the top of their agenda, we must have a leader to stand up against Trump. That is not Congressman Dan Lipinski,” Stephanie Schriock, president of EMILY’s List, said in a statement. ..."
 
Simpletruther said:
Um, you are forcing babies to sit still and be hacked to pieces. Yes, that is forcing your your view on them.

You are forcing the law to allow abortions. So yea.
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That is literally the dumbest and most incorrect comment all day, thank you. Embryos do not have personhood status. So no, my views are not being forced on ANYONE. Now crawl back into your little hole of pro-life bliss and come back when you can actually type something worth reading.
 
Simpletruther said:
And there you go again repeating the view that is being forced on us.
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Again, you aren't forced to think otherwise. You are free to think that abortion is murder. You just aren't free to impose your view on us legally. Nothing is actually being forced on you. You aren't forced to have an abortion. You aren't forced to think abortion is right. Nothing is being forced on you, the only thing you have is just your idiotic belief that it is.

Don't want an abortion, don't have one. Pretty simple concept.
 
Praxas said:
Again, you aren't forced to think otherwise. You are free to think that abortion is murder.
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And you are free think it’s not murder if my view takes over.
 
Simpletruther said:
And you are free think it’s not murder if my view takes over.
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Choice is not forcing anything on you. You aren’t forced to have an abortion and you aren’t forced to think it is right. You, however, want to take away choice which is why you are wanting to force your views on others. Me being allowed to do something doesn’t take anything away from you. The opposite cannot be said about what you want to do.
 
Praxas said:
Choice is not forcing anything on you. You aren’t forced to have an abortion and you aren’t forced to think it is right. You, however, want to take away choice which is why you are wanting to force your views on others. Me being allowed to do something doesn’t take anything away from you. The opposite cannot be said about what you want to do.
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Yes, it does take, it takes away my right to protect unborn child. You force me not to intervene.


There are some who would be fine with terminating a born baby up to the first year birthday.

You “force your view on them” and don’t allow them to kill their baby if they want, because you view it as having rights. Thst is the exact same argument.

We all “force our views” on others when it comes to protecting those whom our views believe need to be protected.
 
Simpletruther said:
Yes, it does take, it takes away my right to protect unborn child. You force me not to intervene.


There are some who would be fine with terminating a born baby up to the first year birthday.

You “force your view on them” and don’t allow them to kill their baby if they want, because you view it as having rights. Thst is the exact same argument.

We all “force our views” on others when it comes to protecting those whom our views believe need to be protected.
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Sorry but that isn’t forcing anything on you. Your comments at this point is ridiculous. Your basically saying that alcohol being legal is forcing you not to intervene against it. That is just plain wrong and idiotic on your part. Choice is not forcing anything on you. Don’t want an abortion? Don’t have one. that is YOUR choice.
 
Praxas said:
Sorry but that isn’t forcing anything on you. Your comments at this point is ridiculous. Your basically saying that alcohol being legal is forcing you not to intervene against it. That is just plain wrong and idiotic on your part. Choice is not forcing anything on you. Don’t want an abortion? Don’t have one. that is YOUR choice.
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I prefer civil discussions. You on my unofficial ignore list now for repeated rude comments. You will have to Find someone else to be a jackarse to.
 
Simpletruther said:
I prefer civil discussions. You on my unofficial ignore list now for repeated rude comments. You will have to Find someone else to be a jackarse to.
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Yes run away, that is typical for pro lifers who are proven wrong.
 
Logical1 said:
Over this last week end there is a move by some democrats to purge the party of any pro life people. How stupid can they get. Democrats have already driven out some blacks and Jewish people, and now some want to drive out pro life people.

It is a fact the democrat party has become the party of hate and socialism. Now it want to be known as the party of baby killers. Is there any normal real Americans left in the party?
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It's courtesy to provide a link when you start a thread with a claim.
 
Moderate Right said:
They lost the 2016 election by chasing away white middle class working people and calling the other side deplorables. I actually find it quite funny that the left claim to be tolerant and want to unite the country using phrases like "Stronger together", "For the People", etc and yet they are very intolerant of others, call the other side names, and only want to unite the left. They have no plans whatsoever to include people who are pro-life, pro-second amendment, and against the socialist policies being presented by many of the 2020 candidates.
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You forgot to mention that many dems criticized Hillary for this. Also, the most popular candidate, Biden, eschews socialism and the socialist label.

How many repubs are criticizing Trump's blatantly egregious and bizarre claims, numbers of which make whatever Hillary's guffaws seem insignificant? So far, very few.


I personally welcome middle of the road dems. Most dems I know, do, as well. Keeps radicals from getting nominated and insuring loss in the general election.


Hillary lost by a very slim margin in the swing states, a detail which deflates the huffing and puffing in your comment.
 
veritas1 said:
My claim isn't false as PP's statements and the posted article shows. You can't show it is false, either. All you can do is prattle on while barely concealing your consternation over what PP's main business is. I wonder why.
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The article doesn't show anything. It discusses some objections (deservedly so) to PP's statements. None of them have anything to do with profit coming almost exclusively from abortions, which was your false claim.

Nothing in the article also acks up your second false claim that abortions are PP's "main business".

I don't have to prove your statements to be false. You have to prove them to be true, and you can't. Because you know you are lying.
 
tres borrachos said:
The article doesn't show anything. It discusses some objections (deservedly so) to PP's statements. None of them have anything to do with profit coming almost exclusively from abortions, which was your false claim.

Nothing in the article also acks up your second false claim that abortions are PP's "main business".

I don't have to prove your statements to be false. You have to prove them to be true, and you can't. Because you know you are lying.
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Abortions are the profit driver as has already been explained. You simply deny what is already well established.
 
veritas1 said:
Abortions are the profit driver as has already been explained. You simply deny what is already well established.
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Stop telling me what you "explained" and show me, in their annual report, where it backs up your claim.

The National Review link didn't address it. Nor did the other one from the partisan pro-life site. Neither one addresses the profit margin in abortions or the total income from abortions versus the entire organization's income.

If you don't want to admit you lied, then just say "I can't find that information". That would be honest and not the fake posts of "it's been proven" or "it's been explained". It has not.
 
tres borrachos said:
Stop telling me what you "explained" and show me, in their annual report, where it backs up your claim.

The National Review link didn't address it. Nor did the other one from the partisan pro-life site. Neither one addresses the profit margin in abortions or the total income from abortions versus the entire organization's income.

If you don't want to admit you lied, then just say "I can't find that information". That would be honest and not the fake posts of "it's been proven" or "it's been explained". It has not.
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PP won't give out the actual dollar figures because they know what we know, that abortions are the lifeblood of their business. They must be embarrassed by that fact or they'd present the revenues in their statements. Since they do about 900 abortions a day and they are far and away the most expensive service they provide, it is easy to see that this is the profit engine. If you can't understand that, it's OK. Just say so.
 
veritas1 said:
PP won't give out the actual dollar figures because they know what we know, that abortions are the lifeblood of their business. They must be embarrassed by that fact or they'd present the revenues in their statements. Since they do about 900 abortions a day and they are far and away the most expensive service they provide, it is easy to see that this is the profit engine. If you can't understand that, it's OK. Just say so.
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So in other words, you have no data to back your claim up.
 
Logical1 said:
Over this last week end there is a move by some democrats to purge the party of any pro life people. How stupid can they get. Democrats have already driven out some blacks and Jewish people, and now some want to drive out pro life people.

It is a fact the democrat party has become the party of hate and socialism. Now it want to be known as the party of baby killers. Is there any normal real Americans left in the party?
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Right wing nuts are experts at projection.
 
veritas1 said:
I've already explained it. It's like asking for data to show that cars makes up most of GM's revenue. It's on the same level.
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You can see GM's data by car line in their financials. So no, it isn't on the same level at all.
 
lurchadams said:
Right wing nuts are experts at projection.
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For every right wing nut, there is 10,000 left wing nuts. Just look at all the democrats nuts running for president.
 
Logical1 said:
For every right wing nut, there is 10,000 left wing nuts. Just look at all the democrats nuts running for president.
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*are*

When you fail on basic grammar you sacrifice all credibility.
 
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