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[W:108]Which Trump do you agree with

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snakestretcher said:
Basically Trump does whatever he thinks will show him in a favourable light at any one time; inconsistency means nothing to him. It's all ego-driven, the poor insecure little man needs all the affirmation he can get.
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Right...

How much affirmation is getting in the main stream media?
 
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code1211 said:
The Democrat Primary was rigged.

The Democrat Party is Socialist.

The Democrat Party loves Abortion.

There was nothing for him in the Democrat Party.
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He was a Dem his entire life until 2015. He used to make fun of Republicans. Called them stupid.
 
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code1211 said:
He said he hated abortion then and he still hates it now.

His policy position changed. Could be that he is actually conscious of the real world changes in the scientific understanding of life in the womb.

Could be that he feels that as POTUS, he needs to set a better example. The actions of a young man change dramatically when he becomes a role model as a father.
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I hate abortion too. I would never have one. But unlike Trump, I was never an advocate for partial birth abortion.

No, his "policy" position didn't change. He didn't have a "policy" 20 years ago when he was a real estate developer. He was also a father/role model well before 1999. In 1999 his son Junior was 22 years old (after he was raised by nannies when his father left his mother for a much younger woman - that kind of a role model father you mean?).

He's lying to you now, and you know it. He's pandering to the religious right, and you know it. You just lack the honest gene to admit it.
 
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code1211 said:
Well, maybe his messaging will improve during his second term.
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If he gets a second term, he won't have to cater to the rubes anymore. He'll shift his interests to those who can make him money.
 
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How much do you have to avoid reality to tell yourself a cheating lying dog of a husband like Donald Trump didn't pay off any of his mistresses to have abortions? Does anyone think if Stormy had gotten pregnant during their 'hey let's meet and **** without protection' session that he would have supported her to have the baby and step up and be a father? :lol: If you believe that, send me a message because I have some pet rocks to sell you.
 
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tres borrachos said:
I keep pointing out to people that Trump was adamantly pro-choice, up to and including partial birth abortion. But the cult mentality is real. His fans ignore the truth.

Trump is a fraud. He's lying to the idiotic pro-lifers to get their votes.
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Your comrades the Clinton;s in 1992 were known to reverse their opinions on abortion on the same day, depending on whether they were campaigning in a pro-life state or pro-baby killing state. And Obama reversed his position on gays in the military in the course of two weeks.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
Your comrades the Clinton;s in 1992 were known to reverse their opinions on abortion on the same day, depending on whether they were campaigning in a pro-life state or pro-baby killing state. And Obama reversed his position on gays in the military in the course of two weeks.
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As usual, you are confusing me with your fellow Liberal, Donald Trump. I never voted for the Clintons. He did. But what do they or Obama have to do with Trump lying to you Liberals and the Evangelicals today that he's pro-life anyway? Did his great friends the Clintons force him to change his mind?
 
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code1211 said:
He hated Abortion then and he hates Abortion now.

Like any other thinking individual, his understanding of the state of life in the womb should reasonably be expected to impact his opinion in this topic.

Has your own understanding regarding the various scientific advances impacting the definition of life in the womb over the last 20 years not made any impact on your own understanding of the questions surrounding this topic?

My guess is that real world information of any sort has no impact on your opinions, but I felt the question needed to be asked.
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Most people hate abortion. The difference is that, before he liked choice. Now he hates choice as well. He has done a complete 180 on the subject, from adamantly pro choice to adamantly pro life. He re made himself into some caricature of the right wing "conservative" movement, adopting every position that the dittoheads take. That got him elected, as not many saw through his con job.
 
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trouble13 said:
Theres nothing to defend. You want to make a big deal out of his positions evolving over time, have at it.

Bidens positions have evolved as has obamas and clintons.

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Over what, the time it took trump to take a ****?
 
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code1211 said:
He hated Abortion then and he hates Abortion now.

Like any other thinking individual, his understanding of the state of life in the womb should reasonably be expected to impact his opinion in this topic.

Has your own understanding regarding the various scientific advances impacting the definition of life in the womb over the last 20 years not made any impact on your own understanding of the questions surrounding this topic?

My guess is that real world information of any sort has no impact on your opinions, but I felt the question needed to be asked.
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If you don't think trump ever paid for an abortion with all the raw dogging he's done over the years you are more deluded than I thought
 
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code1211 said:
Was this a 180?

He leads his answer by stating pretty directly that he hated abortion both then and now.
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Yes, trump does say things.
 
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code1211 said:
He said he hated abortion then and he hates abortion now.

Do you love abortion?
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Did he hate abortions or did he hate paying for them?
 
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tres borrachos said:
As usual, you are confusing me with your fellow Liberal, Donald Trump. I never voted for the Clintons. He did. But what do they or Obama have to do with Trump lying to you Liberals and the Evangelicals today that he's pro-life anyway? Did his great friends the Clintons force him to change his mind?
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Says the poster who defends the hildabeast every time her illegal activities are dicussed.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
The Trump of then:





or the Trump of now?
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It's a miracle, hallelujah! Trump was born again when the Pastors prayed for him. He finally asked God for forgiveness and became saved.

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What if...? said:
Over what, the time it took trump to take a ****?
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What are you talking about?

Trumps positions have changed over time as has every politicians. Pelosi, schummer, nadler, take your pick. My own positions have changed over time as has yours and everyone elses in this thread. Other than the fact that you dont like Trump because he is Trump; what's your complaint?

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trouble13 said:
What are you talking about?

Trumps positions have changed over time as has every politicians. Pelosi, schummer, nadler, take your pick. My own positions have changed over time as has yours and everyone elses in this thread. Other than the fact that you dont like Trump because he is Trump; what's your complaint?

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Observation.

Trump says anything, espouses anything that he thinks will get him what he wants. Then abandons that position and denies he ever held it as needed

I have witnessed this with my own eyes for decades.

He's a high end con artist, nothing more. Cunning and charisma are all he ever brings to any table.

He's a flip flopper of the highest order. His position on abortion "evolved" after he decided to run as a republican and someone told him his pro choice position would cost him votes.

He would pay for an abortion today if one of the porn stars he raw dogs got pregnant. Have you ever even wondered why he doesn't have any illegitimate children that anyone knows of. I don't. Because I'm sure he had all those pregnancies terminated.
 
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code1211 said:
Right...

How much affirmation is getting in the main stream media?
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Why does a 74 year old man need affirmation from the media? Sounds rather infantile...
 
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What if...? said:
Observation.

Trump says anything, espouses anything that he thinks will get him what he wants. Then abandons that position and denies he ever held it as needed

I have witnessed this with my own eyes for decades.

He's a high end con artist, nothing more. Cunning and charisma are all he ever brings to any table.

He's a flip flopper of the highest order. His position on abortion "evolved" after he decided to run as a republican and someone told him his pro choice position would cost him votes.

He would pay for an abortion today if one of the porn stars he raw dogs got pregnant. Have you ever even wondered why he doesn't have any illegitimate children that anyone knows of. I don't. Because I'm sure he had all those pregnancies terminated.
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Again he isnt different than any other politician.

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trouble13 said:
What are you talking about?

Trumps positions have changed over time as has every politicians. Pelosi, schummer, nadler, take your pick. My own positions have changed over time as has yours and everyone elses in this thread. Other than the fact that you dont like Trump because he is Trump; what's your complaint?

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Trump has been a politician for 2 years.

So you're okay with Trump supporting partial birth abortion, which is probably the one thing you won't even get pro-choice advocates to approve?
 
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trouble13 said:
Again he isnt different than any other politician.

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I thought you supported him because he isn't a politician. He isn't establishment. He's an outsider, sent to DC to shake it up. Now you're saying he's nothing but the same old, same old.

Looks like he snowed you.
 
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In the opening of Bob Woodward's new book, "Fear" he talks about Trump being told that he can't run as a Republican because he's pro-choice. He basically said "what the hell is that, I can change."

And he did change. 5 times over 3 days.
 
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