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What do you dind alarming about this administration and why?

It bothers me that Trump eats his steak well done with ketchup.

I mean, he has pretty much awful taste in everything - the one weird exception being Ivanka. Her being hot is probably the only thing I agree with Trump on.
 
Whats the alternative that you would of perferred? Do you think his starting position with China was unreasonable?
Yes. Because the "starting position" hurts only consumers. Elites are insulated.
 
Trump's disdain and disregard for the standards of the office. Mocking disabled people. Calling other countries ****holes. Naming neo-Nazis and Klansmen 'very fine people'. Threatening or saying he wants to jail his political rivals - both sides of aisles. Believing himself to be above the law, and that paying taxes is for idiots rather than a duty of citizens. Pathological lying about even basic facts or evidence.


I'm more alarmed by the people who support his bad behavior (behavior they would have excoriated Obama for) and who consider him one of the best presidents ever, maybe the very best, and even consider him a good role model for young people. (In 2017, in a poll of evangelicals, 50% said he was a good role model.)

I can understand people voting for him because the alternative was Hillary.

But I find it very alarming that there are so many people who are actually pleased that he is president and admire him. Of all the atrocious things about this president and his administration, that is the one I find most alarming.

There are many atrocious things, including making it policy to break up families in order to try to scare people from seeking amnesty here. That people admire a man who would do these things is the most alarming.
 
uh, yeah, we're really upset that LESS THAN HALF of the country approves of him still...we've literally known that since the election, where he lost the popular vote.


What that tells me is very few people believe the lying mainstream media. That's good news, too. It's a win/win. :cool:
 
Uh-oh, TDS sufferers, more bad news. You MUST try harder.

Trump job approval at highest mark since Feb. 2017, RCP average finds


Don't worry. His highest is only 45.1%. And we don't have to do anything. We can generally count on Trump to screw up his own good news. Instead of riding his good economic numbers and letting them inflate the polls further to see if maybe he might be able to hit 50%, he reopened his trade wars and sent the markets into a dive. The trade wars hit all our pocketbooks but do serious damage to farmers and blue collar workers -- his voters.
 
Post #31 is a list of complaints. Many of which Trump didn't actually have a hand in.

The separation of child from mother.... Was Trump at the border physically separating parents from kids? No. Did Trump specifically order separation or was it already in the procedures? And it is hard to keep track of parents that don't want to be found. Parents that in many cases don't want their children returned. (I have a couple of threads in this).

Please share which executive order was issued that mandated children be separated and the parents not to be tracked.

2) Increased disunity... Hmmmm I think that has been going on pre Trump. Hell, When GWB was elected there were crys of woe and lies about a stolen election...

3). Please show any statement of Trump "supporting" hate.

You are truly a trump minion for sure.

Trump is the president and anything that occurs that needs the president's approval, he is responsible for. As such, separating kids from their mothers and not keeping track of where they are sent, he is the one that takes the blame for as he is the one in charge. He certainly takes credit for the good things (such as tax cuts and deregulation that were ideas Congress wanted to do way before he came on the scene) so he has to take the blame as well. The buck stops with him.

Disunity was occurring before Trump came aboard but disunity has increased tenfold with him in office. Just look at the action both sides are taking against each other. Never before was it that bad. Other presidents when they won they were for all. Trump has shown over and over again that he is only for his base. The other 60% can be discarded, especially if they are Democrats.

Here is just one example of fomenting hate but there are many just like this one.



Get more info here:

Documenting Hate - ProPublica
 
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It bothers me that Trump eats his steak well done with ketchup.

Well I mean, if its a Trump steak, it makes perfect sense, since shoe leather was of better quality and all. For ****s sake, I would sooner eat one of Ivanka's purses.
 
You are truly a trump minion for sure.

Trump is the president and anything that occurs that needs the president's approval, he is responsible for. As such, separating kids from their mothers and not keeping track of where they are sent, he is the one that takes the blame for as he is the one in charge. He certainly takes credit for the good things (such as tax cuts and deregulation that were ideas Congress wanted to do way before he came on the scene) so he has to take the blame as well. The buck stops with him.

Disunity was occurring before Trump came aboard but disunity has increased tenfold with him in office. Just look at the action both sides are taking against each other. Never before was it that bad. Other presidents when they won they were for all. Trump has shown over and over again that he is only for his base. The other 60% can be discarded, especially if they are Democrats.

Here is just one example of fomenting hate but there are many just like this one.



Get more info here:

Documenting Hate - ProPublica


You start with name calling.

Nice.

I guess you could not find any executive order mandating a change in operating procedures.

And you do know a large percentage of parents don't want their children returned to them... Right?

How can the government track foreign nationals that don't want to be tracked?
 
Donald Trump is a hero. He´s going to trigger the worst economic crisis in the history of capitalism, and that´s exactly what people need to open their eyes.
 
This thread is an open invitation to anyone who feels they articulate what Trump has done or is trying to do that concerns them.

Have you heard him talk about nukes? Is this really the guy you want to have his hand on the button?
 
You start with name calling.

Nice.

I guess you could not find any executive order mandating a change in operating procedures.

And you do know a large percentage of parents don't want their children returned to them... Right?

How can the government track foreign nationals that don't want to be tracked?

You blame the parents for the guidelines of the administration? that is a new one for me.

what the parents want or don't want is no excuse for having no program where if they want to reunite they can. Under such conditions, even one is too much. It shows a blatant lack of humanity on the administration's part.

With you supporting or excusing Trump on this, you deserve the name calling of being a Trump supporter which means you do not care about the pain of others. If we can't be humane then we must be called destroyers of humanity.

and by the way, this is not about tracking people that don't want to be tracked, it is about keeping track of where we sent them ourselves so at least there is a way to say we did our job.

I am so fed up with the inhumanity being seen from Trump and his supporters. Humanity is the one thing none of us should ever lose. Without humanity we are animals with no reason for living.
 
You blame the parents for the guidelines of the administration? that is a new one for me.

what the parents want or don't want is no excuse for having no program where if they want to reunite they can. Under such conditions, even one is too much. It shows a blatant lack of humanity on the administration's part.

With you supporting or excusing Trump on this, you deserve the name calling of being a Trump supporter which means you do not care about the pain of others. If we can't be humane then we must be called destroyers of humanity.

and by the way, this is not about tracking people that don't want to be tracked, it is about keeping track of where we sent them ourselves so at least there is a way to say we did our job.

I am so fed up with the inhumanity being seen from Trump and his supporters. Humanity is the one thing none of us should ever lose. Without humanity we are animals with no reason for living.

Still waiting for the executive order mandating the a change in operating procedures.

And for the children abandoned in the US because the parents want the children to remain in the US who else is to blame? Parents entered illegally with child in tow. Parents and children separated because we don't jail minors in with adults. Parents abandon child to the tender mercies of the Border Patrol by choice....

Hmmm

Yep... All TRUMP'S FAULT!! 1!1!1!!!!1!
 
Still waiting for the executive order mandating the a change in operating procedures.

And for the children abandoned in the US because the parents want the children to remain in the US who else is to blame? Parents entered illegally with child in tow. Parents and children separated because we don't jail minors in with adults. Parents abandon child to the tender mercies of the Border Patrol by choice....

Hmmm

Yep... All TRUMP'S FAULT!! 1!1!1!!!!1!

That is no reason for us to lack humanity. You want to blame everyone except the person that did the inhumane thing. You have no excuse for your thinking other than to say you just don't give a damn about anyone else but yourself and your idol.

Good bye.
 
This thread is an open invitation to anyone who feels they articulate what Trump has done or is trying to do that concerns them.

It is not a thread to call him a bunch of names and declare yourself victorious.

I am genuinelt curious what elements of this presidency have people alarmed.

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Many of his appointments have been alarming.

"policy by tweet" is stupid and at times alarming.

His government shutdown wasn't alarming, but it was really stupid and pointless.

His behavior and that of his inner circle as detailed by Mueller is alarming.

Nepotism is alarming.

His use of the office for personal profit...

I could go on, but why should I bother?

Edit : I forgot the obvious fact that Trump is a pathological liar. That should disqualify him from being POTUS. Think about it.
 
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That is no reason for us to lack humanity. You want to blame everyone except the person that did the inhumane thing. You have no excuse for your thinking other than to say you just don't give a damn about anyone else but yourself and your idol.

Good bye.

Still waiting for the executive order....
 
Many of his appointments have been alarming.

"policy by tweet" is stupid and at times alarming.

His government shutdown wasn't alarming, but it was really stupid and pointless.

His behavior and that of his inner circle as detailed by Mueller is alarming.

Nepotism is alarming.

His use of the office for personal profit...

I could go on, but why should I bother?

Agree with all of the above....
 
This thread is an open invitation to anyone who feels they articulate what Trump has done or is trying to do that concerns them.

It is not a thread to call him a bunch of names and declare yourself victorious.

I am genuinelt curious what elements of this presidency have people alarmed.

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I'm not really alarmed by what he's doing. Trump is a Corporate-Statist, that's how he's working it. From the take down of the EPA, the corrupt and incompetent appointments, his Trade War, etc. It's not that these are good things, it's just not surprising in the least. This is what a Corporate-Statist would do.
 
Many of his appointments have been alarming.

"policy by tweet" is stupid and at times alarming.

His government shutdown wasn't alarming, but it was really stupid and pointless.

His behavior and that of his inner circle as detailed by Mueller is alarming.

Nepotism is alarming.

His use of the office for personal profit...

I could go on, but why should I bother?

Edit : I forgot the obvious fact that Trump is a pathological liar. That should disqualify him from being POTUS. Think about it.

What does policy by tweet mean?
Gov shutdown is debatable but i can see the oppositions side to it if they are happy with the current policies in place
What behavior did you have a problem with?
Neptitism bothers you in general or just this current enviroment of it with Trump?
So far Trump has not done anything out of the ordinary in regards to profiteering



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I'm not really alarmed by what he's doing. Trump is a Corporate-Statist, that's how he's working it. From the take down of the EPA, the corrupt and incompetent appointments, his Trade War, etc. It's not that these are good things, it's just not surprising in the least. This is what a Corporate-Statist would do.
I can understand why some people disagree on his policy positions. Those are fair arguments. Its just hard to get them with the name calling tirades that people are engaging in.



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This thread is an open invitation to anyone who feels they articulate what Trump has done or is trying to do that concerns them.

It is not a thread to call him a bunch of names and declare yourself victorious.

I am genuinelt curious what elements of this presidency have people alarmed.

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With me, it's not so much what Trump has or hasn't done. What he has tried or not tried to do. It's his personality, his persona that is a complete turnoff to me. I've had Trump on ignore for quite awhile now. Trump isn't the only one I have hit my ignore button on the Democrats in congress also. Sure would be nice to have some adults in Washington that know what needs to be done and then do it instead of trying to destroy each other, basically playing kids games.

To be honest, Trump has done somethings I like, somethings I didn't and a lot of things that were irrelevant to me. But that goes for every other president in my lifetime. It's Trump's persona, his personality that gives me the hibbie jibbies.
 
With me, it's not so much what Trump has or hasn't done. What he has tried or not tried to do. It's his personality, his persona that is a complete turnoff to me. I've had Trump on ignore for quite awhile now. Trump isn't the only one I have hit my ignore button on the Democrats in congress also. Sure would be nice to have some adults in Washington that know what needs to be done and then do it instead of trying to destroy each other, basically playing kids games.

To be honest, Trump has done somethings I like, somethings I didn't and a lot of things that were irrelevant to me. But that goes for every other president in my lifetime. It's Trump's persona, his personality that gives me the hibbie jibbies.
I can understanding not liking the guy. I would not seek out his company socially. That has nothing to do with if he is doing a good job or not.

What i see from a lot 0f 0eople is them saying they dont like his position on something because he is a moron. Thats not a position.

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This thread is an open invitation to anyone who feels they articulate what Trump has done or is trying to do that concerns them.

It is not a thread to call him a bunch of names and declare yourself victorious.

I am genuinelt curious what elements of this presidency have people alarmed.

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1. The seemingly thoughtlessness in the way he runs the government.

For example, we have numerous instances of very high up government officials discovering they are fired VIA a tweet. We have instances of policies being announced by tweet catching federal government employees off guard and by surprise. We had the president announce Putin is invited to the whitehouse without even running it by people like the head of DNI, we have numerous reports that officials are told to not discuss topics with the president that might upset him, such as Russia interfering in the 2020 election. And I think any honest person has to admit that these few instances I came up with off the top of my head are but the tip of the iceberg. If anyone is really interested I could spend an hour googling and refreshing my memory and come up with dozens.

The response from Trump supporters in general is "well Trump can invite Putin if he wants! Do you want a war with Russia or something? At least he's trying to build a relationship!" and this is the kind of thing that completely misses what I'm saying. As of yet, I haven't specified the problems with his policies, many of which I disagree with. I'm specifying very clearly the dangerous way in which he goes about them.

At the very minimum, every american should be able to expect a few very basic things out of any president/administration, regardless of policies, regardless of political party. Things such as:
- An honest to goodness best attempt at understanding the situation at hand. Read the daily briefs, attend meetings etc.
- All decisions, big and small, should be considered carefully and discussed critically between the president and his staff so that when decisions are made and policy implemented they are done so with the absolute best attempt.
- Positions should be filled with people that know the subject, with experience, be it in government or the private sector, who will work for the betterment of the country, and who will provide thoughtful advice to the president, even if the president disagrees with said advice.
- A president who attempts to be as honest as a politician/leader can be. Of course politicians will try to focus on the positives of their policy and play down the negatives etc, and the president can't tweet out the launch codes, but at the very least we should expect for him to not tell us obvious lies to our face.

I can't see in any meaningful way how it appears that President Trump has considered these duties as part of being POTUS and I can think of numerous ways, such as the ones listed above, that he is falling terribly short of these bare essentials that we should expect.

To be Continued...
 
2. The incredibly dishonesty.

You need only to look at the various talking points of his supporters to see how blatantly obvious it is that often times the words of the president mean absolutely nothing. I couldn't for the life of me imagine defending someone with the line "don't listen to what he says, but instead look at what he does." In general, when you hear that phrase it's about someone who is telling you things that you want to hear but in action is doing something completely different. But in this case I am expected to believe that it's ok that we supposedly have a president that is so dishonest or has such a problem speaking that I shouldn't even concern myself with his words, but instead only look at his actions. I couldn't imagine. The most powerful man in the world at the very least should have an understanding of how important his words are. And I can't see any way that he demonstrates that he understands this beyond probably a very good idea of "if I say this, my base will get very excited".

Or we could look at how his supporters, I assume, know full well that his taxes are not under a 3 year long audit and that he's simply lying because he doesn't want to release them. When you bring up his taxes, it is assumed it's because I'm a stupid libtard that hates him and wants to use them against him. In reality, it's because he is the leader of my country and I think I deserve the base line respect that all of the other aspiring presidents have given to me and show to me where his conflicts lie so that I'm able to judge for myself. Even if he doesn't want to release his returns, in all due respect, he should just say so. Instead he promised to release them, then said he couldn't because of an audit and will release when the audit is done, and is now lying that the audit is still going on. Even if you dreamed up a perfect candidate that agrees with me on every issue and says everything I want to hear and has all the experience that I'd want in a candidate, just this one example of him lying about his taxes rather than saying he doesn't want everyone digging through them would be enough for me to question his character. But for president Trump it's just an item in an incredibly long list. Of course, you can disregard the list by saying "he just talks like a salesman" but I wouldn't allow that excuse for anyone else I know, and I'm not sure why on earth people think I would accept it for my president. If I worked with someone who kept telling me they could get a job done in 10 hours and it kept taking 30 hours I'd have to say something rather than chalk it up to "him being a salesman and talking with bravado". If my son told me his report card was all A's and I found out it was B's and C's I'd have to address those lies with him. In every occasion I can think of where a person expects someone to bull**** them, it is meant as a purely negative thing. Used car salesmen, insurance representative etc. I have no idea why I'm supposed to be ok with my president having this quality when we would all cringe if we had to deal with a salesman with the exact same qualities.

To be Continued when time permits...
 
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