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Mueller won't testify next week, says House Judiciary chair

I wouldn't want to testify either.

Only a complete lunatic would want to get in the middle of this ****storm. Being the Chief Inquisitor was bad enough...but the crap he had to deal with then was nothing compared to what's going on now.

The poor man just wants to move as far away from DC as humanly possible to regain his sanity.
 
Cardinal said:
He memorialized his disagreement by writing a stern letter pointing out that Barr confused the public about the facts of the report. Calling a news conference is not how Mueller rolls, in case you haven't been paying attention for the last two years.
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This,

“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

is not a all confusing.
 
hanger4 said:
This,

“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
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...to a criminal extent.

hanger4 said:
is not a all confusing.
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Sure it is, because you came away with a confused interpretation of the Mueller report as a result of Barr's letter, just as Mueller said. Just because you don't feel confused doesn't mean that you are not, in fact, confused.
 
Cardinal said:
And that he could not indict due to DOJ policy. Don't pretend that the OLC isn't a part of the DOJ and that we haven't been over this already.
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Of course. And don't pretend that the OLC, or Mueller, sets policy for the DOJ.
They don't. Barr does.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Of course. And don't pretend that the OLC, or Mueller, sets policy for the DOJ.
They don't. Barr does.
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Your disinformation campaign is becoming less coherent with every post you make. You're clearly burning out.
 
Cardinal said:
Your disinformation campaign is becoming less coherent with every post you make. You're clearly burning out.
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There is no disinformation on my end. You seem to think the Justice Dept. is some sort of free for all. But they do have directors and supervisors and chains of command and all that kind of fun stuff
Hint-- The attorney general is the boss of the guy in charge of the OLC. Barr is actually his boss.
 
Cardinal said:
Cite the exact passage from the Mueller report.
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You have cited it plenty of times. No coordination. The Stone indictment said that the Trump campaign reached out to Stone after the first Wikileaks release to see if he could find out if there would be any more.
Translation: the Trump campaign didn't know.
Further translation: No coordination.
Remarkably, that's what Mueller said also.
Still more remarkably: Barr said that's what Mueller said.
No coordination/no conspiracy/no collusion.
Just confusion-- from those who thought to the contrary.
 
Athanasius68 said:
You have cited it plenty of times. No coordination. The Stone indictment said that the Trump campaign reached out to Stone after the first Wikileaks release to see if he could find out if there would be any more.
Translation: the Trump campaign didn't know.
Further translation: No coordination.
Remarkably, that's what Mueller said also.
Still more remarkably: Barr said that's what Mueller said.
No coordination/no conspiracy/no collusion.
Just confusion-- from those who thought to the contrary.
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I'm not interested in what you have to say. Cite the passage from the Mueller report directly.
 
apdst said:
Of coure he isn't. Mueller doesn't want to testify and the Democrats sure as hell don't want him to testify...



They aren't going to subpoena Mueller.
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So I take it Mueller won’t be charged with contempt of Congress? What about threats of jail?
 
Cardinal said:
...to a criminal extent.



Sure it is, because you came away with a confused interpretation of the Mueller report as a result of Barr's letter, just as Mueller said. Just because you don't feel confused doesn't mean that you are not, in fact, confused.
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"did not establish ......... conspired or coordination" is actually very easy to understand. This,

“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

did not change.
 
Mycroft said:
Before Mueller testifies, he'll need to have about 10 hours of meetings with Congressional aides to get everyone on the same sheet of music...like they did with Cohen.

Of course, presumably Mueller is more capable of remaining on script than Cohen is. The Dems should get a whole bunch of sound bites for the Trump hating media to use.
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This is all that it is for the Democrats anymore. Their substitute for talking about issues, solution to problems, doing the people's work, substituted for little more than vacuous sound bites that can be used to attack their political opponents. Its all they have let, and it appears that they believe it is real governing, or something. :roll:
 
Lutherf said:
The only way he was going to come through this clean would have been to find Trump guilty of conspiracy, obstruction and a few dozen financial crimes. Unless Trump ended up under the jail the Democrats weren't going to accept Mueller's report.

In a sane world his report would have been enough to give both sides a little bit of what they wanted. Trump would be clear of anything Russia and the Democrats could still campaign on "obstruction". The trouble is that we're no longer in the realm of sanity and Democrats have gone "all or nothing". They got used to the GOP giving them whatever they wanted under Obama and the GOP was supposed to give them another Bush to lead around by the nose. That didn't happen and now they want whet they believe they were entitled to.
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Weaning them off of this is going to be painful. At least it'll be more painful for them than for the rest of us, but it'll be painful for us as well, putting up with their **** while they are weaned.
 
hanger4 said:
This,

“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

is not a all confusing.
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Unfortunately even a direct quote as this this won't convince the TDS afflicted that Trump didn't collude with the Russians, nor that he didn't commit obstruction.

Seems they are off in their own reality again, and it appears to be on a permanent basis as well.

I wonder if 'deprogramming' is going to be necessary.
 
hanger4 said:
"did not establish ......... conspired or coordination" is actually very easy to understand. This,

“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

did not change.
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Right, as I said, to a criminal extent. Mueller specifically used a legal term. He then went on to point out the hundred plus contacts that the Trump Campaign had with Russians. And remember: everybody in the Trump campaign lied 100% of the time about those contacts. Where those lies were merely to the American people, it was legal. Where those lies were under oath, they were indicted.

But relying solely on Barr's letter has left you with a confused and simplistic interpretation of Mueller's report, just as Mueller said.
 
Cardinal said:
Right, as I said, to a criminal extent. Mueller specifically used a legal term. He then went on to point out the hundred plus contacts that the Trump Campaign had with Russians. And remember: everybody in the Trump campaign lied 100% of the time about those contacts. Where those lies were merely to the American people, it was legal. Where those lies were under oath, they were indicted.

But relying solely on Barr's letter has left you with a confused and simplistic interpretation of Mueller's report, just as Mueller said.
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The whole point of the investigation was to establish a criminal extent / intent :doh:
 
hanger4 said:
The whole point of the investigation was to establish a criminal extent / intent :doh:
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You have an incredibly simplistic and misleading understanding of the conclusions of the Mueller report. All I can suggest is that you get away from Barr's summary and deal with the Mueller report directly.
 
Mycroft said:
News came out today that makes it even more unlikely that Mueller will talk to any House committee.

Seems we have new evidence that supports the belief that Mueller and his people tried to entrap Papadopoulus.

EXPLOSIVE – FOIA Documents Show Evidence of Weissmann/Mueller Entrapment Scheme… | The Last Refuge

I'm sure a couple Republican Representatives would like to ask Mueller about this. I'm also sure Mueller doesn't want to talk about it.
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The Last Refuge is The Conservative Treehouse, one of the most hilariously partisan CT sites on the internet.

Your list of bookmarks must be an absolute freak show.
 
Cardinal said:
You have an incredibly simplistic and misleading understanding of the conclusions of the Mueller report. All I can suggest is that you get away from Barr's summary and deal with the Mueller report directly.
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OK, how did this change;

“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

to

“[T]he investigation did establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
 
hanger4 said:
OK, how did this change;

“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

to

“[T]he investigation did establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
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Again, you need to concern yourself with the Mueller report directly. The one line you're citing is hopelessly one dimensional.
 
Cardinal said:
The Last Refuge is The Conservative Treehouse, one of the most hilariously partisan CT sites on the internet.

Your list of bookmarks must be an absolute freak show.
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As you know, I look at facts and dismiss the spin...at this site as well as any other site.

If you avoid sites because you are afraid of spin, then all you are doing is avoiding facts.

Shrug...your choice.
 
It’s a matter of time, short time. Mueller will testify and the unredacted report, maybe minus grand jury testimony, will surface.
 
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