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Trumps bad economy

gdgyva said:
he has NEVER been popular....will NEVER be popular....can NEVER be popular

but if the economy keeps rolling along, that will make him HARDER to beat in 2020

people VOTE their pocketbook
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You don’t win with low numbers. Most people are not feeling a great economy.
 
Here's the thing: if the economy was doing a lot worse, don't we all know it wouldn't matter to trumpistas, that none of them would be here saying they ended their support?

trump's the one who said he could should someone on the street and not lose supporters- he understands the con man effect. This isn't a normal 'Republican' situation where the supporters leave over the economy. And remember Republicans kept most of their voters even in the 2008 election, even with Sarah Palin on the ticket.
 
tres borrachos said:
Two problems with your post.

This isn't about Obama. He hasn't been POTUS in 2 1/2 years. And Obama isn't running against Trump in 2020.
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Actually Obama became fair game starting with this post comments: Esp., "Trump inherited a solid economy from Obama."

Amelia said:
Indeed. Had Republicans been willing to work with Obama, the nation would be much better off. And if she had pulled off a victory, Hillary would have had sound economic policies, and we would be doing well now with her at the helm.

As a Republican at the time, I gloated when Republicans obstructed Obama, but the victories were so hollow and when I looked at it as an intelligent human and not a team-jersey-wearing Republican, I knew that the party I had been voting for was hurting me to spite Obama.

And I quit being a Republican.

Trump inherited a solid economy from Obama. Then he claimed credit for it from his first day in office. Then after a year he started his trade wars and jerked the economy around (and flatlined the stock market), but the economy is still doing well ... in spite of Trump. Not because of him. He's making us weaker as a nation. Weaker as a trading partner. Weaker as far as the tools we will have to deal with a recession if it does come.

Maybe just maybe the tax cut has fired up the economy enough that Trump can't kill it. I hope so, since if we went into all that debt for nothing, then that is very sad for the country. Trump and his supporters would deserve it. But for myself and my family I really hope that Wisconsin can weather Trump's trade wars without too much sustained damage.
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And in numerous posts after that...............
 
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Mycroft said:
Tre: "nah nah nah...I can't hear you!!!"
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Oh, I'm dismissed, because you lied - again? Good stuff!

Don't make it so easy, Mycroft. We all know you want to carry Trump's dirty sock in your mouth. You don't need to lie for him too.
 
Sabre said:
Actually Obama became fair game starting with this post comments:



And in numerous posts after that...............
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My name isn't Amelia. Perhaps you should pay better attention to posts so you don't quote posters when you intend to address someone else. My post never mentioned Obama.
 
Mycroft said:
That article provided data and reasons for the data in just the first six months of Trump's presidency. It's only gotten better since then.

And please stop demanding something that I already told you that you won't get. Repeating nonsense doesn't make any point.
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She sounds a lot like the Dems on the House Judiciary committee
 
smallvoice said:
She sounds a lot like the Dems on the House Judiciary committee
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You sound triggered. Are you mad because I exposed the fact that you don't know the difference between George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush? I guess I do understand it. That was humiliating for you.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Good to see lefties mad at America being great again.
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America has been great for years. Still is great even now, despite an anti-American president and his lemmings in the GOP working to destroy it.
 
Sabre said:
Bad for anti-Trumpers that is:

Job creation smashes expectations, unemployment rate falls to 49-year low



More at:
Job creation smashes expectations, unemployment rate falls to 49-year low
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As a few of you know, I am a stock market chart analyst and though I am strongly against Trump for many valid reasons, the stock market and the economy is not one of them. I am consciously aware of the benefits that his presidency has brought to both of those, at least so far.

FYI

Below is the comment I gave today to my subscribers regarding what happened today and for the past few months:

Simply stated, the bulls won again and have made this 5 month rally into a historic one.

The fundamental picture continues to be supportive and it is the kind the bulls love, meaning it is a sustained one. There have been no big surprises on either side.

As I stated a few weeks ago, this latest rally that started in January is unique and from a chart trading perspective difficult to trade given that there have been no peaks and valleys in the fundamental picture. For example, one of the things that I was looking at the other day is that GDP under Obama showed months at 5.1% followed the very next month with a negative number. This has not happened under the trump administration, meaning that the Fed has been doing a good job and the tax cuts and deregulation seen have brought about continued growth.

The ultimate benefits and consequences of this is a completely other discussion because everything has benefits (now being felt) but also consequences (such as deregulation ultimately brought about with the mortgage crisis in 2008). At this time, there is no tangible evidence of the consequences that are to come at some point, such as the National Debt being at the highest ever and the Trade War that had not occurred since 1930. There will be consequences to these but when those consequences are to occur no one yet knows.

For now and until some of the consequences start to cause problems, the bulls are likely to continue to be in control. It does need to be mentioned that the agreement between China and the U.S. regarding the trade war is likely to be known within the next 2-4 weeks and that will be the next catalyst. Will it be a positive or negative catalyst is not yet known but the reality is that for it to be a positive catalyst, it has to be better than expected as $40+ billion has already been lost because of it and I have read that some analysts do not anticipate that the agreement will be good enough to recover what has been lost because of it and that would cause a big drop in the market.

For now and after today's action, what needs to be watched closely is when the trade agreement will be announced. That will be the next catalyst.
 
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tres borrachos said:
My name isn't Amelia. Perhaps you should pay better attention to posts so you don't quote posters when you intend to address someone else. My post never mentioned Obama.
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Another Lib with LRD. I intended to address you and I did, you said this was not about Obama and I pointed out Obama became fair game when the post I referenced for you.
Ah yes you did mention Obama, "Two problems with your post. This isn't about Obama. He hasn't been POTUS in 2 1/2 years. And Obama isn't running against Trump in 2020." you mentioned Obama and your post was in reference to my post that did. So simple even a Lib should understand.
 
Puigb said:
America has been great for years. Still is great even now, despite an anti-American president and his lemmings in the GOP working to destroy it.
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Yeah we are destroying it by fixing the economy, putting people back to work and trying to enforce our borders according to the constitution. To a lefty..yes that is destroying the nation. So you dislike the Trump economy right?
 
Sabre said:
Another Lib with LRD. I intended to address you and I did, you said this was not about Obama and I pointed out Obama became fair game when the post I referenced for you.
Ah yes you did mention Obama, "Two problems with your post. This isn't about Obama. He hasn't been POTUS in 2 1/2 years. And Obama isn't running against Trump in 2020." you mentioned Obama and your post was in reference to my post that did. So simple even a Lib should understand.
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You were talking to a Lib with what? No idea what LRD is, or why you're again quoting me when you intend to talk to other people.

Obama had nothing to do with my post. Please quote Amelia or the Lib you're referring to if you want to discuss Obama. I didn't mention his name in my post. Everyone understands that.

By the way - I mentioned Obama in response to your post to me, where you quoted a post I made that didn't reference Obama, and droned on about Obama. Did you forget what you posted?

My post to Mycroft:

tres borrachos said:
Which of the "great swat of regulations" that he repealed resulted in more jobs. Be specific and provide links to back it up so we can see for ourselves.
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You quoted that post and said this:

Sabre said:
I would be curious about that also, but I can tell you what his record was in his last year:

- Annualized GDP growth nearly stalled in the first quarter at a meager 0.5 percent. This was down from already tepid 1.4 percent growth in the fourth quarter of 2015.

- Obama is the only U.S. chief executive in history not to preside over even a single year with 3 percent GDP growth, from 1790 to 2000 U.S. real GDP growth averaged 3.79 percent, when Obama took office.

‐ During the Obama years, the number of Americans below the poverty line was up 3.5 percent.

‐ Real median household income: down 2.3 percent.

‐ Americans on Food Stamps — 46 million: up 39.5 percent.

‐ Americans who own homes: down 5.6 percent.

‐ National debt — was $19.19 trillion, up 80.5 percent.
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Puigb said:
America has been great for years. Still is great even now, despite an anti-American president and his lemmings in the GOP working to destroy it.
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America never stopped being great, even though Trump and his America-hating supporters insisted it was no longer great.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Yeah we are destroying it by fixing the economy, putting people back to work and trying to enforce our borders according to the constitution. To a lefty..yes that is destroying the nation. So you dislike the Trump economy right?
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Your first mistake is thinking Trump and only Trump is responsible for the economy. And yes, the GOP is known for screwing things up, and handing the Democrats a mess to fix and then trying to blame them for their mistakes. It's happened numerous times already. Even this guy acknowledged it:
 
tres borrachos said:
America never stopped being great, even though Trump and his America-hating supporters insisted it was no longer great.
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Kind of funny and sad how anti American Trump's 2015/2016 campaign was. Had Obama or ANY Democrat ran a campaign like that, the GOP would have went ballistic calling them anti American communists. Hell, they already do that.
 
Puigb said:
Your first mistake is thinking Trump and only Trump is responsible for the economy. And yes, the GOP is known for screwing things up, and handing the Democrats a mess to fix and then trying to blame them for their mistakes. It's happened numerous times already. Even this guy acknowledged it:
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I don't know about you, but I absolutely love rubbing the words of Trump in his Fan Club's noses.

This video is a classic. Glad you posted it.:lol:
 
Puigb said:
Kind of funny and sad how anti American Trump's 2015/2016 campaign was. Had Obama or ANY Democrat ran a campaign like that, the GOP would have went ballistic calling them anti American communists. Hell, they already do that.
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Remember, these are the same people who tinkled their collective panties that Michelle Obama said that she was proud of her country for the first time when her husband was elected. They had their pitchforks and nooses ready for her.

But the large reality TV game show host says America isn't great, and they toss their panties at his feet like housewives at a Tom Jones concert.
 
tres borrachos said:
I don't know about you, but I absolutely love rubbing the words of Trump in his Fan Club's noses.

This video is a classic. Glad you posted it.:lol:
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What's funny is there's plenty more. Trump spent so many years bashing Republicans and their policies, and praising Democrats, that I can spend all day (in fact, several) rubbing it in his fans faces. The fact that Trump himself can now be a supporter of policies he himself not too long ago thought were bad means Trump is either really stupid, or an opportunist, or both. I'm leaning towards both. And his fans are even dumber than him (and he knows it).
 
Puigb said:
What's funny is there's plenty more. Trump spent so many years bashing Republicans and their policies, and praising Democrats, that I can spend all day (in fact, several) rubbing it in his fans faces. The fact that Trump himself can now be a supporter of policies he himself not too long ago thought were bad means Trump is either really stupid, or an opportunist, or both. I'm leaning towards both. And his fans are even dumber than him (and he knows it).
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Oh trust me, I know. I said that when he first declared. People were horrified why I, a 36 year Republican voter and supporter of the party, refused to support the man. It was because of this. He wasn't a Republican until 15 minutes after he realized that he could sucker the easily duped into supporting him by playing on the paranoia and fear that sadly was permeating the party.

The same man who publicly supported partial birth abortion, gun control, and all of the Democrats, managed to brainwash millions of idiots into thinking he's a Christian Republican. It would be funny if it wasn't so damn pathetic.

Yes, he absolutely thinks his fans are stupid. We all knew that when he boasted that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and not lose a single vote. The funny thing is - it was one of the few honest comments he ever made.
 
tres borrachos said:
Oh trust me, I know. I said that when he first declared. People were horrified why I, a 36 year Republican voter and supporter of the party, refused to support the man. It was because of this. He wasn't a Republican until 15 minutes after he realized that he could sucker the easily duped into supporting him by playing on the paranoia and fear that sadly was permeating the party.

The same man who publicly supported partial birth abortion, gun control, and all of the Democrats, managed to brainwash millions of idiots into thinking he's a Christian Republican. It would be funny if it wasn't so damn pathetic.

Yes, he absolutely thinks his fans are stupid. We all knew that when he boasted that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and not lose a single vote. The funny thing is - it was one of the few honest comments he ever made.
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Trump's rise in GOP politics will be studied and analyzed for many years to come. I loathe Trump, but the fact that he single handily hi-jacked a political party he never used to support in such a quick and easy fashion is down right eye popping. We've never seen anything like it before, and we may never see something like it again. Those of us on the outside can use it as learning experience as to what happens when a con man and a carnival barker manipulates gullible people.
 
tres borrachos said:
Oh trust me, I know. I said that when he first declared. People were horrified why I, a 36 year Republican voter and supporter of the party, refused to support the man. It was because of this. He wasn't a Republican until 15 minutes after he realized that he could sucker the easily duped into supporting him by playing on the paranoia and fear that sadly was permeating the party.

The same man who publicly supported partial birth abortion, gun control, and all of the Democrats, managed to brainwash millions of idiots into thinking he's a Christian Republican. It would be funny if it wasn't so damn pathetic.

Yes, he absolutely thinks his fans are stupid. We all knew that when he boasted that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and not lose a single vote. The funny thing is - it was one of the few honest comments he ever made.
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He was last on my list too, or almost. When he announced. Trump must have had a come to Jesus experience. He is delivering on Republican promises.

Results over pandering for the first time in the Republican Party since Reagan.

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Puigb said:
Trump's rise in GOP politics will be studied and analyzed for many years to come. I loathe Trump, but the fact that he single handily hi-jacked a political party he never used to support in such a quick and easy fashion is down right eye popping. We've never seen anything like it before, and we may never see something like it again. Those of us on the outside can use it as learning experience as to what happens when a con man and a carnival barker manipulates gullible people.
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Never underestimate the power of the corrupt against the minds of the weak.

Jim Jones' supporters would tell you that too. The ones who didn't drink the purple Flavor-Aid anyway.
 
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