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    Bernie yes, Biden no

    The US is at a historic point, where the concrete of plutocracy will either harden or get attacked. The two main previous inflection points in the country were FDR and Reagan.

    Bernie is a third, to right the course of the nation for the public to regain control of our country from the plutocrats. He's a once in many elections chance for that.

    Biden is not. Biden is a plutocrat-friendly, centrist Democrat of the sort that continues the Reagan inflection, that will simply oversee continuing the road to more inequality, not returning the government to the people.

    While of course Biden would be better than any Republican, it would be terrible for the country instead of changing course with a progressive, preferably Bernie. Not to mention, Bernie will win if nominated much more likely than Biden, who will turn off much of the country similarly to Hillary.

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    Re: Bernie yes, Biden no

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    The US is at a historic point, where the concrete of plutocracy will either harden or get attacked. The two main previous inflection points in the country were FDR and Reagan.

    Bernie is a third, to right the course of the nation for the public to regain control of our country from the plutocrats. He's a once in many elections chance for that.

    Biden is not. Biden is a plutocrat-friendly, centrist Democrat of the sort that continues the Reagan inflection, that will simply oversee continuing the road to more inequality, not returning the government to the people.

    While of course Biden would be better than any Republican, it would be terrible for the country instead of changing course with a progressive, preferably Bernie. Not to mention, Bernie will win if nominated much more likely than Biden, who will turn off much of the country similarly to Hillary.
    Yes, agreed. I think a lot of Trump voters would have voted for Bernie in the last election if he had the nomination. People just wanted change. They still do.

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    Re: Bernie yes, Biden no

    I don't agree. I see Bernie as the cold war USSR where the government runs everything. Whether you want to call him a socialist or communist (take your pick) he is every thing we spent the last 100 years fighting. I think the republicans would work with Biden unlike the democrats who will not work with anyone. If the democrats don't bring and end to this witch hunt and misuse of our justice system for political gain we may have civil war on our hands. I personally think it is time to take back our government. Our forefathers were clearly right about every now and then you have to upset the applecart to get rid of all the rotten apples.
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    Re: Bernie yes, Biden no

    Polls say differently now, but I sincerely believe that if Bernie wins the nom, we'll have 4 more years of Trump.

    But you Dems do what you have to do, even if it's nominating someone who only claims to be a Democrat every four years so he can run for president.
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    Re: Bernie yes, Biden no

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    The US is at a historic point, where the concrete of plutocracy will either harden or get attacked. The two main previous inflection points in the country were FDR and Reagan.

    Bernie is a third, to right the course of the nation for the public to regain control of our country from the plutocrats. He's a once in many elections chance for that.

    Biden is not. Biden is a plutocrat-friendly, centrist Democrat of the sort that continues the Reagan inflection, that will simply oversee continuing the road to more inequality, not returning the government to the people.

    While of course Biden would be better than any Republican, it would be terrible for the country instead of changing course with a progressive, preferably Bernie. Not to mention, Bernie will win if nominated much more likely than Biden, who will turn off much of the country similarly to Hillary.
    Whoever the Democrats nominate better be thick-skinned and squeaky-clean. If the right-wing media can't dig up any dirt or anything they can spin into dirt, they'll make something up.
    In fact, that's liable to start tomorrow.
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    Re: Bernie yes, Biden no

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    Polls say differently now, but I sincerely believe that if Bernie wins the nom, we'll have 4 more years of Trump.

    But you Dems do what you have to do, even if it's nominating someone who only claims to be a Democrat every four years so he can run for president.
    IMHO, the demorat base has moved so far left that whoever can win the DNC primary will have little chance of winning the general POTUS election.
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    Re: Bernie yes, Biden no

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Whoever the Democrats nominate better be thick-skinned and squeaky-clean. If the right-wing media can't dig up any dirt or anything they can spin into dirt, they'll make something up.
    In fact, that's liable to start tomorrow.
    No need to look for anything, nor spin anything. Bernie is the gift that keeps on giving.

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    Re: Bernie yes, Biden no

    You know, if policy and consistency of position were actually important to people, Elizabeth Warren would come out on top, no contest.

    But oh noes, she took a DNA test and took Trump's troll bait. Now she can't be President.

    I often doubt that this country is deserving of a principled and qualified leader.

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    Re: Bernie yes, Biden no

    Quote Originally Posted by PIPEWRENCH View Post
    I don't agree. I see Bernie as the cold war USSR where the government runs everything. Whether you want to call him a socialist or communist (take your pick) he is every thing we spent the last 100 years fighting. I think the republicans would work with Biden unlike the democrats who will not work with anyone. If the democrats don't bring and end to this witch hunt and misuse of our justice system for political gain we may have civil war on our hands. I personally think it is time to take back our government. Our forefathers were clearly right about every now and then you have to upset the applecart to get rid of all the rotten apples.
    Bernie has explained extensively how his "socialism" (which is really nothing more than just having a government which guarantees the basic human rights of its citizens, and nothing more), is different than the USSR.


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    Re: Bernie yes, Biden no

    Quote Originally Posted by PIPEWRENCH View Post
    I don't agree. I see Bernie as the cold war USSR where the government runs everything. Whether you want to call him a socialist or communist (take your pick) he is every thing we spent the last 100 years fighting. I think the republicans would work with Biden unlike the democrats who will not work with anyone. If the democrats don't bring and end to this witch hunt and misuse of our justice system for political gain we may have civil war on our hands. I personally think it is time to take back our government. Our forefathers were clearly right about every now and then you have to upset the applecart to get rid of all the rotten apples.
    I'll use my primary election vote put Biden out in front of Bernie.

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