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    Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    Rudy Giuliani said on Sunday that there’s ‘nothing wrong’ with taking information from Russians, after the Mueller report laid out extensive ties between the Trump campaign and Russians during the 2016 election campaign. Giuliani was being interviewed with Jake Tapper on CNN this morning and said; “Any candidate in the world would take information,” even as Tapper noted the information came from a “hostile foreign source.”

    Here's a primer for Rudy Giuliani and anyone else who thinks there's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians. NO it's not okay to take information from a foreign country who hacked our election and used social media to help Trump win the election.


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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    The only reason Twump keeps him around is he's Donnie's most obsequious fluffer.

    This, if nothing else, shows how far the GOP has fallen and how it's essentially become a criminal syndicate obsessed with maintain power.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Rudy Giuliani said on Sunday that there’s ‘nothing wrong’ with taking information from Russians, after the Mueller report laid out extensive ties between the Trump campaign and Russians during the 2016 election campaign. Giuliani was being interviewed with Jake Tapper on CNN this morning and said; “Any candidate in the world would take information,” even as Tapper noted the information came from a “hostile foreign source.”

    Here's a primer for Rudy Giuliani and anyone else who thinks there's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians. NO it's not okay to take information from a foreign country who hacked our election and used social media to help Trump win the election.


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    Evidently Mueller agrees with Rudy, since no American was indicted for "taking information from the Russians".
    TANSTAAFL

    Liberal turned conservative David Mamet famously said: In order to continue advancing their illogical arguments modern liberals have to pretend not to know things…

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    The only reason Twump keeps him around is he's Donnie's most obsequious fluffer.

    This, if nothing else, shows how far the GOP has fallen and how it's essentially become a criminal syndicate obsessed with maintain power.
    The GOP is dead. It committed fratricide beginning in the early 90s and finally killed off the last members in 2017. It's just the Republican party; a meaner, more extreme version of the Democrats. They spend money like Democrats but kill taxes for the rich and corporations. The Republicans have approved two budgets that were near or over a TRILLION dollar deficit. We live in interesting times.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Rachel Maddow is fake news.






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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Evidently Mueller agrees with Rudy, since no American was indicted for "taking information from the Russians".
    AFAIK, it wasn't illegal, just immoral. Consorting with an enemy who has repeatedly acted hostile toward US interests goes up to the line but doesn't seem to cross over into treason. Sad.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    The GOP is dead. It committed fratricide beginning in the early 90s and finally killed off the last members in 2017. It's just the Republican party; a meaner, more extreme version of the Democrats. They spend money like Democrats but kill taxes for the rich and corporations. The Republicans have approved two budgets that were near or over a TRILLION dollar deficit. We live in interesting times.
    Too true. The foot in the door was the GOP joining up with the fundamentalists under Reagan, and then Newt "alcohilic facial bloat' Gingrich and Lee Atwater kicked it all the way open.

    That SO many can't or refuse to remember that spells doom for our nation.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Rudy Giuliani said on Sunday that there’s ‘nothing wrong’ with taking information from Russians, after the Mueller report laid out extensive ties between the Trump campaign and Russians during the 2016 election campaign. Giuliani was being interviewed with Jake Tapper on CNN this morning and said; “Any candidate in the world would take information,” even as Tapper noted the information came from a “hostile foreign source.”

    Here's a primer for Rudy Giuliani and anyone else who thinks there's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians. NO it's not okay to take information from a foreign country who hacked our election and used social media to help Trump win the election.
    IMO he is correct.

    Dirt is always being dug up by campaigns, and sources are myriad. That is simply a fact of politics.

    If someone comes in volunteering evidence of such dirt, and it is factually established as true, then unless the party receiving it knows it was obtained illegally and it would violate the law to publish it, I believe it is fair game.

    As I stated several times during the 2016 election period, when allegations that hacked material publicized by Wikileaks were obtained by a foreign source illegally...what matter the source if the information is true?

    This in no way excused the source regarding the commission of a crime, they can be held fully accountable as happened to Chelsea Manning.

    However, unlike our Court system, there is no such thing as "fruit of the poisonous tree" when it comes to how the public handles illegally obtained yet true facts presented to us.

    We are not required to "unlearn, unhear, and not speak" such things. Nor should we ever be required to outside of a court of law.

    Had such information been damaging to the Trump campaign, would his detractors be arguing "Not fair, someone stole it from his server so we can't use this information!"? I don't think so.
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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    Too true. The foot in the door was the GOP joining up with the fundamentalists under Reagan, and then Newt "alcohilic facial bloat' Gingrich and Lee Atwater kicked it all the way open.

    That SO many can't or refuse to remember that spells doom for our nation.
    Agreed except about being doomed. However, it is a major problem and we can't move forward until we fix it as a nation.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: "There's nothing wrong about taking information from the Russians"

    A green light to Russians to continue and even increase their efforts to interfere in our elections. There are no penalties for doing so and the GOP welcomes it. Why not hack our election to kingdom come in 2020?

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