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Mueller identified Henry Greenberg as a Russian agent who met with Trump officials

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Henry Greenberg is listed in the Mueller report under IV. RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LINKS TO AND CONTACTS WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN as a Russian spy who met with Trump campaign officials. But what are the facts?

The Mueller report claims Henry Oknyansky (a/k/a Henry Greenberg) and another man, Alexei Rasin, met with Michael Caputo and Roger Stone and offered stolen information on the Clinton campaign. What is interesting is that Mueller admits neither Stone nor Caputo wanted the information or made an offer to get it. Mueller also admits Rasin was lying and had nothing to offer anyway. What Mueller does not admit, and maybe did not know, was that Henry Greenberg was a petty crook with a long rap sheet who had been working as an FBI informant for years. The whole thing was not proof of Trump collusion with Russians, but proof of FBI attempts to falsely brand Trump as an evil colluder with Russians.

Interestingly, the Mueller report quotes Roger Stone's response to the dirty duo trying to sell them dirt on Hillary:

"TRUMP WILL NOT PAY FOR OPPOSITION RESEARCH."

Here is more on the dirty FBI informant who posed as a Russian agent:

Meet the mysterious Miami man tied to Trump Russia probe | Miami Herald
 
Barr has access to the truth.
 
Grand Mal said:
Is the truth in the Mueller report?
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As the OP pointed out, there are hints at the truth in the Mueller report...but in this instance, and in others, Mueller seemingly decided to not extend his investigation in logical directions. Or else, he did gather other information but didn't put it in this report.

Perhaps the information is in the millions of pages of grand jury, interrogation, etc, information. This information is what I was referring to. This is information you and I will never see. But Barr can see it all.
 
marke said:
Henry Greenberg is listed in the Mueller report under IV. RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LINKS TO AND CONTACTS WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN as a Russian spy who met with Trump campaign officials. But what are the facts?

The Mueller report claims Henry Oknyansky (a/k/a Henry Greenberg) and another man, Alexei Rasin, met with Michael Caputo and Roger Stone and offered stolen information on the Clinton campaign. What is interesting is that Mueller admits neither Stone nor Caputo wanted the information or made an offer to get it. Mueller also admits Rasin was lying and had nothing to offer anyway. What Mueller does not admit, and maybe did not know, was that Henry Greenberg was a petty crook with a long rap sheet who had been working as an FBI informant for years. The whole thing was not proof of Trump collusion with Russians, but proof of FBI attempts to falsely brand Trump as an evil colluder with Russians.

Interestingly, the Mueller report quotes Roger Stone's response to the dirty duo trying to sell them dirt on Hillary:

"TRUMP WILL NOT PAY FOR OPPOSITION RESEARCH."

Here is more on the dirty FBI informant who posed as a Russian agent:

Meet the mysterious Miami man tied to Trump Russia probe | Miami Herald
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Funny how you left out an incredibly important fact (and posted a lie about another)...

"Trump Campaign advisor Michael Caputo learned through a Floridabased Russian business partner that another Florida-based Russian, Henry Oknyansky (who also went by the name Henry Greenberg), claimed to have information pertaining to Hillary Clinton. Caputo notified Roger Stone and brokered communication between Stone and Oknyansky."

In other words, the Trump campaign advisor was actively seeking Clinton emails and actively sought a meeting with Henry Oknyansky. In other words, Trump campaign approached the Russian third party, not the other way around, as you are suggesting. Contrary to what you claimed, Stone and Caputo DID want the information and actively sought to get it from a Russian citizen. This information can be found on page 69 of the PDF.


The amount of dishonesty from Trump supporters is nearly overwhelming.
Mycroft said:
As the OP pointed out, there are hints at the truth in the Mueller report
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What the OP posted was a lie. I'm not surprised to see you work to amplify the lie.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Funny how you left out an incredibly important fact (and posted a lie about another)...

"Trump Campaign advisor Michael Caputo learned through a Floridabased Russian business partner that another Florida-based Russian, Henry Oknyansky (who also went by the name Henry Greenberg), claimed to have information pertaining to Hillary Clinton. Caputo notified Roger Stone and brokered communication between Stone and Oknyansky."

In other words, the Trump campaign advisor was actively seeking Clinton emails and actively sought a meeting with Henry Oknyansky. In other words, Trump campaign approached the Russian third party, not the other way around, as you are suggesting. Contrary to what you claimed, Stone and Caputo DID want the information and actively sought to get it from a Russian citizen. This information can be found on page 69 of the PDF.


The amount of dishonesty from Trump supporters is nearly overwhelming.
What the OP posted was a lie. I'm not surprised to see you work to amplify the lie.
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Trump and his advisers were seeking Hillary's missing emails which the FBI had on Wiener's laptop but destroyed them. It is not a crime for public figures to want to get their hands on Hillary's destroyed emails. What the democrat plants were offering the men was not what they wanted. Read it again.
 
marke said:
Trump and his advisers were seeking Hillary's missing emails
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Which means the OP you posted was a lie. As I said. Thank you for admitting your thread is false.

which the FBI had on Wiener's laptop but destroyed them. That is not a crime. What the democrat plants were offering the men was not what they wanted. Read it again.
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I'm sorry, I do not speak gibberish. Could you please try this again?

Mueller's report clearly states advisors to the Trump campaign actively sought and approached Russian citizens to get Clinton emails. Nothing in the report says anything about "democrat plants" and it clearly shows the interest Caputo and Stone had in getting the emails, to the point they approached the Russian citizens.

Try again without the posting of lies and gibberish. Thanks.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Which means the OP you posted was a lie. As I said. Thank you for admitting your thread is false.
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I don't know why but you seem to conflate Hillary's missing emails with the DNC emails that Assange got from a DNC insider. Trump was not looking for Wikileaks emails, he was looking for Hillary's destroyed emails. Did you see the date of the meeting between Stone and the FBI plant? It was in May 2016, months before Wikileaks exposed the DNC emails to the world. Not even the DNC knew Wikileaks had the DNC emails in early May 2016, and it was clear to Stone and to Mueller that the two "Russian" bozos clearly did not have anything to do with the DNC emails.

I'm sorry, I do not speak gibberish. Could you please try this again?
Mueller's report clearly states advisors to the Trump campaign actively sought and approached Russian citizens to get Clinton emails. Nothing in the report says anything about "democrat plants" and it clearly shows the interest Caputo and Stone had in getting the emails, to the point they approached the Russian citizens.
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When you read the rest of the story you find that Caputo thought Henry Greenberg was an American. That is another point Mueller should have mentioned but didn't.
 
marke said:
Henry Greenberg is listed in the Mueller report under IV. RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LINKS TO AND CONTACTS WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN as a Russian spy who met with Trump campaign officials. But what are the facts?

The Mueller report claims Henry Oknyansky (a/k/a Henry Greenberg) and another man, Alexei Rasin, met with Michael Caputo and Roger Stone and offered stolen information on the Clinton campaign. What is interesting is that Mueller admits neither Stone nor Caputo wanted the information or made an offer to get it. Mueller also admits Rasin was lying and had nothing to offer anyway. What Mueller does not admit, and maybe did not know, was that Henry Greenberg was a petty crook with a long rap sheet who had been working as an FBI informant for years. The whole thing was not proof of Trump collusion with Russians, but proof of FBI attempts to falsely brand Trump as an evil colluder with Russians.

Interestingly, the Mueller report quotes Roger Stone's response to the dirty duo trying to sell them dirt on Hillary:

"TRUMP WILL NOT PAY FOR OPPOSITION RESEARCH."

Here is more on the dirty FBI informant who posed as a Russian agent:

Meet the mysterious Miami man tied to Trump Russia probe | Miami Herald
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Greenberg was a PAID, FBI INFORMANT.


Another brick in the wall of seditious conspiracy and lies from the pro-Hillary Witch Hunt.
 
Grokmaster said:
Greenberg was a PAID, FBI INFORMANT.


Another brick in the wall of seditious conspiracy and lies from the pro-Hillary Witch Hunt.
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The more we learn about the depth of corruption in the democrat machine the more disconcerting it is to know we have such wicked corrupt officials in places of responsibility in America.
 
marke said:
I don't know why but you seem to conflate Hillary's missing emails with the DNC emails that Assange got from a DNC insider. Trump was not looking for Wikileaks emails, he was looking for Hillary's destroyed emails. Did you see the date of the meeting between Stone and the FBI plant? It was in May 2016, months before Wikileaks exposed the DNC emails to the world. Not even the DNC knew Wikileaks had the DNC emails in early May 2016, and it was clear to Stone and to Mueller that the two "Russian" bozos clearly did not have anything to do with the DNC emails.
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I have not said anything about DNC emails. What are you talking about?

My point is that your entire thread is a lie. I've proven it so. Caputo and Stone were actively seeking and engaging Russians to get emails, which destroys the lies you were insinuating.

When you read the rest of the story you find that Caputo thought Henry Greenberg was an American.
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:lamo

You have completely made that up. It is contradicted in Mueller's report.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I have not said anything about DNC emails. What are you talking about?

My point is that your entire thread is a lie. I've proven it so. Caputo and Stone were actively seeking and engaging Russians to get emails, which destroys the lies you were insinuating.
:lamo
You have completely made that up. It is contradicted in Mueller's report.
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They talked with a paid FBI informant working for the DNC that they did not know was supposedly a Russian spy. They had heard he may have had Hillary's emails and that is why they contacted him. When he offered some other dirt on Hillary, Roger Stone told him neither he nor Trump were interested. All they wanted were Hillary's emails last accessed by the FBI on Wiener's computer. That was not a crime which is why neither Caputo nor Stone were charged with a crime for asking about the emails.
 
marke said:
They talked with a paid FBI informant working for the DNC that they did not know was supposedly a Russian spy.
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You are literally making up lies which are directly contradicted by Mueller's report..

Spread your propaganda elsewhere.
 
Slyfox696 said:
You are literally making up lies which are directly contradicted by Mueller's report..

Spread your propaganda elsewhere.
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I cannot explain how you keep getting it so wrong, but I am used to leftist liberals missing the facts and details so I am not really surprised that you do also.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Funny how you left out an incredibly important fact (and posted a lie about another)...

"Trump Campaign advisor Michael Caputo learned through a Floridabased Russian business partner that another Florida-based Russian, Henry Oknyansky (who also went by the name Henry Greenberg), claimed to have information pertaining to Hillary Clinton. Caputo notified Roger Stone and brokered communication between Stone and Oknyansky."

In other words, the Trump campaign advisor was actively seeking Clinton emails and actively sought a meeting with Henry Oknyansky. In other words, Trump campaign approached the Russian third party, not the other way around, as you are suggesting. Contrary to what you claimed, Stone and Caputo DID want the information and actively sought to get it from a Russian citizen. This information can be found on page 69 of the PDF.


The amount of dishonesty from Trump supporters is nearly overwhelming.
What the OP posted was a lie. I'm not surprised to see you work to amplify the lie.
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Nope-- more of the same. A russian told Caputo that another Russian had access to emails. It's the same story we heard regarding the tower meeting and with PapaD (a Russian says other Russians have the goods).
 
marke said:
I cannot explain how you keep getting it so wrong
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I'm not wrong because you are making things up which don't exist. Mueller's report does not say anything you say it does, it says the opposite. It says Trump campaign went looking for emails. You are posting lies.
Athanasius68 said:
Nope-- more of the same. A russian told Caputo that another Russian had access to emails.
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The Trump campaign actively sought and coordinated a meeting to get the emails they believe a Russian had.

This has nothing to do with the FBI or Democrats and the OP is a lie.

It's the same story we heard regarding the tower meeting and with PapaD (a Russian says other Russians have the goods).
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And, just like all the other times, the Trump campaign rushes off to get information from Russia. The Trump campaign CLEARLY wanted and did everything they could to collude with Russia.

Thank you for admitting how corrupt the Trump campaign was.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I'm not wrong because you are making things up which don't exist. Mueller's report does not say anything you say it does, it says the opposite. It says Trump campaign went looking for emails. You are posting lies.
The Trump campaign actively sought and coordinated a meeting to get the emails they believe a Russian had.
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Someone from the democrat camp contacted a Trump associate promising something he did not have in order to get a meeting which produced nothing. Big deal. The whole thing was set up to create an appearance of impropriety. It is not wrong to look for Hillary's missing emails. The democrat plant offered dirt on Hillary besides the emails but the Trump associates told the guy Trump was not interested in the opposition research crap he was offering. Read the transcript.

Of course Trump associates were looking for the emails Hillary destroyed rather than turn them over to Congress. Millions of people were looking for the emails, even though the FBI already had them and kept them covered up to protect Hillary.
 
marke said:
Someone from the democrat camp contacted a Trump associate
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You have literally made this up.

This is a lie you are telling and propaganda you are spreading.

It is not wrong to look for Hillary's missing emails.
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The Trump campaign actively sought information from Russian citizens, yet again. Everything you have said in this thread on this topic has been false.
 
Slyfox696 said:
You have literally made this up.

This is a lie you are telling and propaganda you are spreading.

The Trump campaign actively sought information from Russian citizens, yet again. Everything you have said in this thread on this topic has been false.
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No, I am not making this up. Lots of people were looking for Hillary's destroyed emails. If the Russians had them then that blows Hillary's claim to hell that her private server was safe and secure. Stone and Caputo were dishonestly accused of meeting with a Russian who claimed he had dirt on Hillary, but the facts of the case and the truth behind the account were not reported publicly in any mainstream outlet. Here is what was reported in the Miami Herald:

Although the meeting apparently produced nothing, it underscored a willingness of the campaign to meet with Russians boasting of scandalous information.

Maybe they did willingly meet with the guy claiming to have dirt on Hillary. So what? That is not a crime or Adam Schitff would also be in jail for arranging to meet with Russians who offered him dirt on Trump - on air and recorded for posterity. Here is more from the Miami Herald:

In any event, if Greenberg was indeed dangling an offer of dirt on Clinton in front of Trump's campaign at the behest of the FBI, it would call into question what the bureau has said about its investigation into alleged Russian collusion.

That is an understatement. Greenberg was a FBI informant and did work for the FBI for 15 years and was dangling dirt he did not have in front of two of Trump's associates, and evidence shows that biased FBI personnel were deliberately creating false 'evidence' which could be used by democrats to support Hillary's lie about alleged Russian hacking of the DNC emails.

Meet the mysterious Miami man tied to Trump Russia probe | Miami Herald
 
marke said:
No, I am not making this up.
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You did make it up. There is nothing to suggest what you are saying is true. But we have Mueller's report which explicitly states Caputo and Stone sought out information from Russians.

You're pushing lies and propaganda.
 
marke said:
"TRUMP WILL NOT PAY FOR OPPOSITION RESEARCH."
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Do you believe that? He spent how much money on finding proof that Obama was born outside of the US when he wasn't even running against him....think of what he would spend when the stakes were higher.:lamo
 
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Slyfox696 said:
You did make it up. There is nothing to suggest what you are saying is true. But we have Mueller's report which explicitly states Caputo and Stone sought out information from Russians.

You're pushing lies and propaganda.
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I will post what I have and then you can try to prove me wrong.

Much about Greenberg is unclear, including where he currently is and whether he had resumed working for the FBI. If he hadn't, then it could mean his offer to sell the Trump advisors derogatory information about Clinton was a private scam conducted on his own.

Which, one former federal prosecutor told the Herald, is probably what happened. The prosecutor, though he's never heard of Geenberg, said the circumstances of his encounter with Stone indicate "it was obviously a shakedown." The ex-prosecutor, who has tried several Russian organized-crime cases in South Florida, said it is entirely possible that Greenberg had worked for the FBI's foreign counterintelligence section. That unit doesn't ordinarily collaborate with the bureau's criminal section.

The shady character who had a history of bad behavior as well as a history of working for the FBI tried, either with or without FBI encouragement, to involve Trump associates with an illegal scam of his own invention or the invention of his handlers. That is not grounds for criminal charges being filed on the Trump aides.

Meet the mysterious Miami man tied to Trump Russia probe | Miami Herald
 
year2late said:
Do you believe that? He spent how much money on finding proof that Obama was born outside of the US when he wasn't even running against him....think of what he would spend when the stakes were higher.:lamo
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Well, maybe Stone was wrong o maybe he was right. Stone is quoted on p. 69 of the Mueller report as saying "Trump will not pay for opposition research."

There is no reason to believe Stone was lying, especially since he and Caputo blew off Greenberg's offer to provide dirt on Hillary for money.
 
marke said:
I will post what I have and then you can try to prove me wrong.
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I've already proven your position is false. Multiple times, in fact.

Stop posting lies and propaganda.
 
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