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The Russiagate democrat spy operation

marke said:
Move over, Nixon, the new and improved democrat political spy operation has now been revealed to have been the biggest and baddest ever in the history of America. Barr is going to look into the spying that was done on Trump that resulted in the failed attempt to keep him from getting elected president and to then keep him from remaining president.

At the heart of the scam operation lies the dirty Clinton dossier that was wickedly promoted by Trump-haters in the DOJ. Here are some facts:

HUGE: Top DOJ Officials Were WARNED 'Biased' Dossier Was Connected to Hillary - Corrupt DOJ Officials Then Went to Work For Mueller
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lwf said:
You read too much conservative propaganda. It is now established fact that the Russian efforts to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election were not a hoax, Donald Trump himself, along with everyone in his campaign, were aware of it, repeatedly lied about it, and were expecting to benefit from it, Donald Trump actively and repeatedly tried to get the subsequent investigation into this fact shut down without incriminating himself, more than 20 people connected to Trump were either indicted or referred elsewhere for indictment for felony crimes, and it's a fact that a two plus year investigation into the whole thing by a Republican DOJ was unable to exonerate Trump of the crime of obstruction of justice.
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To hell with Rachel Maddow and her perverted fellow leftist media quacks. Trump never colluded with the Russians and never obstructed justice. That is not true, however, about those crooks resisting and obstructing investigations into the Russiagate spy scandal initiated by Obama and his gang of democrat thugs.
 
independentusa said:
The FBI never said Gates did nothing wrong, if so, please provide a link. And then they found out that the russians were helping the Trump campaign and that the Trump campaign were having meetings with said Russians and lying about it. So, do you think that they should have just said, all of that is okay and we should leave it alone or would that have been a dereliction of their duty?
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You are repeating fairy tales, not facts. Mueller found no collusion. Nobody else ever found collusion. Not in 3 years. Time to get off the spinning tale and join reality.
 
marke said:
You are repeating fairy tales, not facts. Mueller found no collusion. Nobody else ever found collusion. Not in 3 years. Time to get off the spinning tale and join reality.
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This is not accurate. According to the Mueller report, Trump requested that Russia find Hillary's emails and implied a reward for doing so. Hours later, Russian intelligence hacked into the DNC servers looking for Hillary's emails. Russia then passed intelligence to Wikileaks, which Roger Stone was grooming as a cutout to shield Trump from prosecution. This is in the Mueller report. Don't trust those propaganda sites. If you want to live in reality, think for yourself and fact check the talking heads that get paid to spew nothing but what you want to hear.
 
marke said:
Barr is going to look into the spying that was done on Trump
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Barr has already made a fool of himself and the Justice Department and right now he's hoping people forget about that.
 
lwf said:
This is not accurate. According to the Mueller report, Trump requested that Russia find Hillary's emails and implied a reward for doing so. Hours later, Russian intelligence hacked into the DNC servers looking for Hillary's emails. Russia then passed intelligence to Wikileaks, which Roger Stone was grooming as a cutout to shield Trump from prosecution. This is in the Mueller report. Don't trust those propaganda sites. If you want to live in reality, think for yourself and fact check the talking heads that get paid to spew nothing but what you want to hear.
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The Mueller report is filled with the biased opinions and twisted facts which can be expected from the vicious hate-Trump team so filled with animosity towards the President of the United States. And yet Mueller had to admit there was no evidence of collusion, a fact well known to US intelligence agencies for years. The Hillary campaign invented the Russian collusion lie to deflect attention from the fact that the emails showed the irrefutable fact that the democrats in Hillary's campaign were crooked, corrupt, wicked and evil.
 
Irwin Corey said:
Barr has already made a fool of himself and the Justice Department and right now he's hoping people forget about that.
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The democrats who have been corruptly promoting the DNC lie about collusion now are desperate to derail every good law enforcement officer seeking to uncover the causes for the phony investigation and spying on the Trump campaign.
 
marke said:
The democrats who have been corruptly promoting the DNC lie about collusion now are desperate to derail every good law enforcement officer seeking to uncover the causes for the phony investigation and spying on the Trump campaign.
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No they are not.

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marke said:
That may be what you think since that is what you say. Your are wrong.
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Marke, your hate is going to destroy you.
 
Lesh said:
And see "evil" in any one that isn't batcrap crazy
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Your fellow Americans aren’t evil. Wherever you’re getting there crazy ideas, that’s evil.
 
marke said:
The Mueller report is filled with the biased opinions and twisted facts which can be expected from the vicious hate-Trump team so filled with animosity towards the President of the United States. And yet Mueller had to admit there was no evidence of collusion, a fact well known to US intelligence agencies for years. The Hillary campaign invented the Russian collusion lie to deflect attention from the fact that the emails showed the irrefutable fact that the democrats in Hillary's campaign were crooked, corrupt, wicked and evil.
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I understand that you want to believe this, but the evidence is not on your side for any of this. You do nothing but make yourself look foolish when you post things like this without fact checking the information you're being spoon fed. There better places to get your news than Fox News, Breitbart, and Infowars. Try:

AP, Reuters, Bloomberg, CSPAN, NPR, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, Politico, New York Times, TIME, Forbes, Business Insider, The Guardian, Slate, Vox, Buzzfeed, or the Wall Street Journal. All of these are highly respected news organizations that report only the facts.

Avoid these like the plague:

Infowars, WorldTruth.TV, National Enquirer, Gateway Pundit, Blaze, The Daily Caller, Brietbart, Twitchy, Conservative Tribune, Daily Wire, Daily Mail, New York Post, and Fox News. These are all well known for posting propaganda and false news stories meant solely to rile the emotions of those who believe everything they read.
 
lwf said:
I understand that you want to believe this, but the evidence is not on your side for any of this. You do nothing but make yourself look foolish when you post things like this without fact checking the information you're being spoon fed. There better places to get your news than Fox News, Breitbart, and Infowars. Try:

AP, Reuters, Bloomberg, CSPAN, NPR, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, Politico, New York Times, TIME, Forbes, Business Insider, The Guardian, Slate, Vox, Buzzfeed, or the Wall Street Journal. All of these are highly respected news organizations that report only the facts.

Avoid these like the plague:

Infowars, WorldTruth.TV, National Enquirer, Gateway Pundit, Blaze, The Daily Caller, Brietbart, Twitchy, Conservative Tribune, Daily Wire, Daily Mail, New York Post, and Fox News. These are all well known for posting propaganda and false news stories meant solely to rile the emotions of those who believe everything they read.
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I don't get the facts from Fox News and others. I am one of the people supplying them with the facts.
 
marke said:
I don't get the facts from Fox News and others. I am one of the people supplying them with the facts.
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How so?
 
lwf said:
How so?
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Let me just say that news anchors do not do all their own research and that anyone with a computer can unearth incontrovertible facts which are not generally factored into the public narrative. Those facts can then be passed on to public news outlets. More Americans should do their own research instead of relying solely on pundits to tell them what to think.
 
marke said:
Let me just say that news anchors do not do all their own research and that anyone with a computer can unearth incontrovertible facts which are not generally factored into the public narrative. Those facts can then be passed on to public news outlets. More Americans should do their own research instead of relying solely on pundits to tell them what to think.
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Where can I find these facts?
 
lwf said:
Where can I find these facts?
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The internet posts all sorts of information for anyone to examine. Take the issue of whether or not Glenn Simpson was involved with the democrat plot to get a Russian spy to talk with Trump Jr. at Trump Tower, for example. How can we know whether what we read is fact or not? We must do research. We can look into the public record of Congressional testimony, for example, in which Simpson admits he met with the woman the day before and the day after she met with Trump Jr.

And so forth, sometimes through dozens of articles in an effort to sort out truth from error. Don't trust anyone and check every story and you will come out ahead.
 
marke said:
The internet posts all sorts of information for anyone to examine. Take the issue of whether or not Glenn Simpson was involved with the democrat plot to get a Russian spy to talk with Trump Jr. at Trump Tower, for example. How can we know whether what we read is fact or not? We must do research. We can look into the public record of Congressional testimony, for example, in which Simpson admits he met with the woman the day before and the day after she met with Trump Jr.

And so forth, sometimes through dozens of articles in an effort to sort out truth from error. Don't trust anyone and check every story and you will come out ahead.
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The internet doesn't post anything. People with agendas post on the internet, and you shouldn't believe everything you read. To get a sense of someone's agenda, you should research the person or organization who posted the information before you dive too deeply into the information itself. If all you are doing is researching the information and not the source of said information, you are falling victim to confirmation bias and are at risk of falling down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories.

A few good places to start if you want to research sources and fact check information:

Media Bias/Fact Check
PolitiFact
Snopes
FactCheck.org

I also recommend doing a google search for the author of any article you find that sounds sensational. I can't tell you how many times I've found that the authors of controversial sounding articles that challenge commonly accepted facts are on the payroll of lobbying groups or a member of a 'think tank' with a plainly partisan agenda.
 
lwf said:
The internet doesn't post anything. People with agendas post on the internet, and you shouldn't believe everything you read. To get a sense of someone's agenda, you should research the person or organization who posted the information before you dive too deeply into the information itself. If all you are doing is researching the information and not the source of said information, you are falling victim to confirmation bias and are at risk of falling down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories.

A few good places to start if you want to research sources and fact check information:

Media Bias/Fact Check
PolitiFact
Snopes
FactCheck.org

I also recommend doing a google search for the author of any article you find that sounds sensational. I can't tell you how many times I've found that the authors of controversial sounding articles that challenge commonly accepted facts are on the payroll of lobbying groups or a member of a 'think tank' with a plainly partisan agenda.
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I quote from the Mueller report itself, from the NY Times, from the Washington Post, from Congressional testimony and dozens of other sources, but you are right, we must be careful not to be led astray by errors in reporting whether intentional or not.
 
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