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Sanders, O'Rourke give almost nothing to charity

I would bet big money Trumps tax returns are consistent with his low tax policy.

As opposed to the two liberal phonies, who espouse every ELSE paying higher taxes but took full advantage of TRump and Bush's low tax policies by not allocating any extra to the ( liberals genuflect) Government.
 
haymarket said:
It is not in my top ten important concerns as to what I want in a president. It would be nice if they gave more - I will concede that - but they are still light years ahead of making a better president that Trump has been. And that is all that counts right now.
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I think it says quite a lot about a person who preaches altruism and demands that people pay their fair share when they, themselves, contribute virtually nothing.
 
Fletch said:
I think it says quite a lot about a person who preaches altruism and demands that people pay their fair share when they, themselves, contribute virtually nothing.
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What it says is that wen it comes to defeating Trump, I have my priorities in order. And I suspect you that is what irritates you more than anything.
 
KLATTU said:
".,,,,b..b...but Trump"- pathetic liberal response
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Comparing the people running for President is a pathetic liberal response? I would buy that if Trump weren't running for office or if they were comparing someone not running, like Hillary, to Trump. But people SHOULD compare all the candidates running. And that includes Trump.
 
Fletch said:
But as a liberal, why doesnt it bother you that these guys do so little to help the less fortunate? Who is the better person, the guy who donates a large portion of his wealth to charity or the guy who gives next to nothing?
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There are more ways to give back to your community than money. Giving your time is even more effective.
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

You typically miss or ignore the point, but more likely swallow **** for them to cover for them.

These ****s are parading around the country talking about the importance of social programs and charity and paying their fair share. They talk a lot of **** but when it comes to acting on their words they are hypocrites and comically...tragically...they KNOW they can say anything and DO anything and the mindless muppets that comprise the idiot left will nod their heads adoringly.

Yes. Its their money. NO...they have NO obligation to give ANYTHING. SO their message SHOULD be "Hey...idiot leftists...Ive got 3 houses and several mill in the bank so **** off til election day, then make sure you run and vote for me."

And of course...the idiot leftists will.
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Nice attempt at dodging. You claimed that they want to use "other people's money" but given their bracket, they are advocating higher taxes on themselves. Your claim makes no sense. Why can't you admit you are wrong?

You're trying to dodge by bringing up another point but your first point is wrong. They are advocating for increasing their own tax rates. They are in the high tax bracket.
 
haymarket said:
What it says is that wen it comes to defeating Trump, I have my priorities in order. And I suspect you that is what irritates you more than anything.
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Lol. No it doesnt irritate me at all. That you want to beat Trump is obvious. But that doesnt mean you cant hold the people running to replace him to even the most basic of standards.
 
Fletch said:
I think it says quite a lot about a person who preaches altruism and demands that people pay their fair share when they, themselves, contribute virtually nothing.
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I'm sorry but 2% of your income is not "nothing" or virtually nothing. Keep in mind that it's 2% of your gross income which doesn't take into account your life expenses. If you have children you may be paying tuition. You may be supporting them etc. You may have relatives your helping etc. That 2% could easily be 10% of the money you actually have to give.

But aren't you impressed that these candidates have released their tax returns and are at least honest about their finances? Compare that to the president who hides his returns. We don't know anything about Trump.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
There are more ways to give back to your community than money. Giving your time is even more effective.
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I get that, but in what ways did Beto and Bernie 'give back to their communities?' And if you are going to make the wealthy paying more the platform of your campaign, shouldnt you at least practice what you preach? Im not saying these guys should be disqualified, but they should be shamed. Making hundreds of thousands of dollars and giving basically nothing to charity is pretty inexcusable for a guy running for virtually any office.
 
Fletch said:
Lol. No it doesnt irritate me at all. That you want to beat Trump is obvious. But that doesnt mean you cant hold the people running to replace him to even the most basic of standards.
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I wish you would apply basic standards to Trump.
 
Ya,

those tight wads Bernie and Beto, look at how much Trump has donated!! Oh wait, its difficut to tell as the first two have released there returns, and Trump has not. We all know the IRS is slow, but 3 years on an audit, wow must be some sort of record.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
I'm sorry but 2% of your income is not "nothing" or virtually nothing. Keep in mind that it's 2% of your gross income which doesn't take into account your life expenses. If you have children you may be paying tuition. You may be supporting them etc. You may have relatives your helping etc. That 2% could easily be 10% of the money you actually have to give.

But aren't you impressed that these candidates have released their tax returns and are at least honest about their finances? Compare that to the president who hides his returns. We don't know anything about Trump.
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This thread is not about Trump. You hate the guy so I dont know why you use him as your standard. If you want someone better than Trump you are going to have to demand it from your own candidates. 2% to charity is pathetic for a guy running for president.
 
This is for anyone that doesn't support Trump.
Please stop engaging with these people. The only response should be....as long as the current occupant of the white house hides his taxes they have no complaint about anything in anyone elses.
Don't let them lure you into this false arguement.
 
yankintx said:
Ya,

those tight wads Bernie and Beto, look at how much Trump has donated!! Oh wait, its difficut to tell as the first two have released there returns, and Trump has not. We all know the IRS is slow, but 3 years on an audit, wow must some sort of record.
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Try to focus for once. This thread isnt about Trump. Its about the guys you hope to replace him with and its clear that you have no particular standards in mind for them.
 
Middle_Ground said:
This is for anyone that doesn't support Trump.
Please stop engaging with these people. The only response should be....as long as the current occupant of the white house hides his taxes they have no complaint about anything in anyone elses.
Don't let them lure you into this false arguement.
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Its not a false argument. You just dont want to hold your own candidates accountable. There are plenty of anti Trump threads here. Find your way to one of those
 
Fletch said:
I get that, but in what ways did Beto and Bernie 'give back to their communities?' And if you are going to make the wealthy paying more the platform of your campaign, shouldnt you at least practice what you preach? Im not saying these guys should be disqualified, but they should be shamed. Making hundreds of thousands of dollars and giving basically nothing to charity is pretty inexcusable for a guy running for virtually any office.
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Again, I think this calculation based on the percentage of your income is flawed. You may have a high income but have a lot of personal non-tax deductible expenses. Like I said, 2% of your income could easily be 10% or 20% of the money you have to give.

Someone can make $500k a year and be struggling in debt. Your income doesn't tell the whole story.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Nice attempt at dodging. You claimed that they want to use "other people's money" but given their bracket, they are advocating higher taxes on themselves. Your claim makes no sense. Why can't you admit you are wrong?

You're trying to dodge by bringing up another point but your first point is wrong. They are advocating for increasing their own tax rates. They are in the high tax bracket.
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If they weren't hypocrites, they would be leading the way by paying more than they owe.

But, they aren't and you're going to defend them for it.
 
Fletch said:
2% to charity is pathetic for a guy running for president.
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Since the last guy who won and will be their likely opponent despite defrauding charities, 2% to legitimate charities is extremely generous.

If you insist on standards being set based on charity contributions, I guess it will be an easy choice for you in 2020.
 
Middle_Ground said:
This is for anyone that doesn't support Trump.
Please stop engaging with these people. The only response should be....as long as the current occupant of the white house hides his taxes they have no complaint about anything in anyone elses.
Don't let them lure you into this false arguement.
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You make a good point. They have no right to criticize anyone for information they revealed in their tax returns while they support someone who refuses to release his tax returns.
 
Middle_Ground said:
This is for anyone that doesn't support Trump.
Please stop engaging with these people. The only response should be....as long as the current occupant of the white house hides his taxes they have no complaint about anything in anyone elses.
Don't let them lure you into this false arguement.
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This thread is about % of charitable donations. Not making tax returns public.

Since their returns make them look like dumbasses, I bet they regret making such a fuss about it.
 
Middle_Ground said:
This is for anyone that doesn't support Trump.
Please stop engaging with these people. The only response should be....as long as the current occupant of the white house hides his taxes they have no complaint about anything in anyone elses.
Don't let them lure you into this false arguement.
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You bring up a valid point. By the Right supporting a man who lies on a daily basis, bangs porn stars and pays them off weeks before an election, reneged on releasing his tax returns, they have lost ANY moral high ground they use to claim. Evangelical family values my ass, what a cartload of hypocrites. The best part, the Right has been exposed for the frauds they are. And dont get me started on these faux fiscal Conservatives, Goldwater must be rolling in his grave!!
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Again, I think this calculation based on the percentage of your income is flawed. You may have a high income but have a lot of personal non-tax deductible expenses. Like I said, 2% of your income could easily be 10% or 20% of the money you have to give.

Someone can make $500k a year and be struggling in debt. Your income doesn't tell the whole story.
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Debt from what? Most manage to live on about 1/10th of that annual income.
 
KLATTU said:
Bernie Sanders, Beto O'Rourke Give Almost Nothing To Charity
Two of the liberal precious darlings give almost nothing to help the people they pretend to care about.

Oh ,they are very good and spouting all the usual soundgood Marxist cliches which the ignorant liberal masses eat up. but as for actualy * doing* something? Not so good.

Why should I listen to anything these two babblers have to say?
[Rhetorical-I shouldn't]
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Trump steals money meant to help children with cancer. He has got them both beat by a mile.

How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Again, I think this calculation based on the percentage of your income is flawed. You may have a high income but have a lot of personal non-tax deductible expenses. Like I said, 2% of your income could easily be 10% or 20% of the money you have to give.

Someone can make $500k a year and be struggling in debt. Your income doesn't tell the whole story.
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Bernie made a ton of money in book sales and gave virtually nothing to charity. Beto may have more of an excuse because he is young and has a young family to worry about, so I can cut him a bit more slack.
 
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