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Candace Owens: Black vote is up for grabs in 2020

You really are blind, aren't you.

All you have posted is divisive income inequality crap.

No, I'm posting information refuting all your claims that Trump can take credit for the record low unemployment among black people in the U.S. You also keep posting known right-wing sources. When I provide something a bit more neutral, suddenly I'm blind? GTFO

First, a more neutral perspective of the record unemployment:


African-American unemployment hit record low in December


More info on minority unemployment:

AP FACT CHECK: Trump on unemployment for blacks, Latinos



WASHINGTON (AP) — A look at one of President Donald Trump’s statements from his State of the Union address on Tuesday night and how it compares with the facts:

TRUMP: “African-American, Hispanic-American and Asian-American unemployment have all reached their lowest levels ever recorded.”

THE FACTS: What he’s not saying is that the unemployment rates for all three groups have gone up since reaching record low levels.

Black unemployment reached a record low, 5.9 percent, in May, but rose to 6.8 percent in January.

Latino unemployment fell to 4.4 percent, its lowest ever, last October, and Asian unemployment fell to a record low of 2.2 percent in May. But Latino and Asian unemployment also have increased, in part because of the government shutdown, which elevated unemployment last month.

The African-American rate is still nearly double the jobless rate for whites, at 3.5 percent.

The most dramatic drop in black unemployment came under President Barack Obama, when it fell from a recession high of 16.8 percent in March 2010 to 7.8 percent in January 2017.

Posting this one again too, because it absolutely relevant:

AP FACT CHECK: Trump on black unemployment
 
Moderates are no better. A Moderate screams, I have no position on the serious issues of the day.
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No, that's what radical ideologues like to PRETEND that "moderates" say. Moderates also, by nature, do a lot reading and listening, not a lot of screaming. Your remarks, above, are the kind of weak rationalization that ideologues seemingly ALWAYS resort, because they know they can't defend their extreme views substantively. The problem with you radical ideologues is that you think everyone is as unhinged and emotional as you are.


I will vote for people on either side of the issue.
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Who are you kidding? The only Democratic politicians you'd vote for are the Dixiecrats and Segregationists who no longer exist within the party.


An "uneducated ideologue" is someone who adheres to bad ideology.
Wrong. Like a lot of right wingers, you think you have the ability to make up your own definitions of already well-defined words and terms. Unfortunately, for you, an uneducated ideologue is exactly what those two words describe: Uneducated (or, miseducated), and ideological (as opposed to empirical/objective)


The correct thing to be is a conservative. That is what educated ideologues are. Conservatism is a belief in Liberty and limited government.
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More wingnut nonsense. But thanks for helping to demonstrate what I've been saying.
 
At this moment, there are more minorities of every description with more jobs paying higher wage rates providing a higher median household income than at any point in American history.

This is STILL a LIE. It was a lie the first time you said it, and nothing has changed. So, I guess, liars just do what they do, huh?:roll: Wages are NOT at an all-time high. And median household incomes have risen under EVERY president. In fact, INFLATION adjusted incomes is DOWN under this president.

What interests are you thinking about? Whatever they are, they seem to have nothing whatever to do with the self-interest and self improvement of minorities.
Another conclusions based upon a false assumption. What we've learned about you, so far, is that you are the kind of rightwinger who runs from facts, and the people who challenge you with facts. Typical anti-intellectual angry-white-guy stuff, basically.

Trump is not a White Nationalist. The ideals espoused by Trump are based on self reliance, personal freedom and individual integrity.
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I just gotta say.....empty-headed, brainwashed Trump acolytes really do make me laugh, somethings. What kind of idiot SERIOUSLY believes that a mediocre student who inherited almost a BILLION dollars from his daddy....who's personal and professional life includes multiple bankruptcies, literally dozens of defaulted million-dollar-plus loans, 3 wives, dozens of mistresses and documented histories of racial discrimination....and whose presidency has been predicated upon restricting personal freedoms......actually espouses the ideals of "self-reliance, personal freedom and individual integrity"? Of course, intelligent Americans understand that Trump represents the literal antithesis of those things.

Racism is something that consumes racists. Racists live and prosper in the Democrat Party.
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More ignorance (or, thinly disguised racial bigotry). Only someone who doesn't understand what racism is....would say what you just said. Wake up, Rip Van Winkle. The 60's are long-gone. It's not the 21st century, and your old Democratic Party bigots are now all comfortably residing within the GOP.

Individuals who are Black are enjoying the best personal economic environment they have ever lived in while Trump implements his programs.
This is the same LIE that you've repeated several times in this thread. I've documented it, and challenged you to rebut me, each time. So far, you've only run from me. Could that be because you know you're lying...and don't care? I think so. It's just what you people do. LOL.
 
It is also complete nonsense. More than 90% of the blacks will vote Democrat, regardless of who is running. They have been doing this since the Democrats unconstitutionally created federal social programs during the 1930s, and nothing has changed in the last 90 years. Despite the abusive and condescending treatment by Democrats. Despite the slum conditions Democrats create everywhere they hold power, blacks will continue to vote for Democrats. They have been almost (90%+) completely indoctrinated.

That's a lot of ignorant white rage/resentment stuffed into 6 short, nearly fact-free sentences.

So let's get a few of those FACTS straight, shall we?

1. There was nothing "unconstitutional" about the New Deal programs enacted by FDR. Any/all arguments to the contrary are the calling cards of idiotic right wingers, and thus not to be taken seriously.

2. The FACT is that, throughout the 30's, while African-American party ID was split almost evenly between the Democratic Party and the GOP, FDR garnered about 65% of the vote because he was the only candidate promoting civil rights (at the FEDERAL level) as part of the New Deal. Northern Republicans were telling black voters to "be patient" about matters of equality. And ALL southern politicians (GOP and Democratic) were OPPOSED to civil rights in any form. THAT is why African-American voters supported FDR. It was rational and logical, and clearly in the best interests of all fair-minded, decent Americans.

3. Abusive and condenscending treatment? What nonsense. Give some examples, if you can. Of course, you won't, because that is just another popular empty-headed talking point for you people. In reality, no one has ever suggested, or believed, that the Democratic Party was perfect-only that it has been CLEARLY the only reasonable option for African-Americans since the end of the Eisenhower era, at the very least.

4. "Slum conditions created everywhere they hold power"? Again, please give concrete examples of the Democratic policies that created "slum conditions". And then please use that "logic" to tell us why brainwashed poor, rural and working class WHITE VOTERS throughout the South...throughout the Appalachians...throughout the Upper/Mountain west...continue to vote for Republicans, even as the GOP has held power over those communities for the last 40+ years, ok? And, know this: When you can't answer that last question, understand that you have been exposed.
 
That's a lot of ignorant white rage/resentment stuffed into 6 short, nearly fact-free sentences.

So let's get a few of those FACTS straight, shall we?

1. There was nothing "unconstitutional" about the New Deal programs enacted by FDR. Any/all arguments to the contrary are the calling cards of idiotic right wingers, and thus not to be taken seriously.
Denying history is an incredibly stupid thing to do when there is documented evidence. Such as the specific Supreme Court cases that held New Deal laws to be unconstitutional. Such as:

  • Panama Refining Co. v. Ryan, 293 US 388 (1935) invalidated the National Industrial Recovery Act;
  • Railroad Retirement Board v. Alton Railway Co., 295 US 330 (1935) invalidated the Railroad Pension Act of 1934;
  • Schechter Poultry Corp. v. US, 295 US 495 (1935) invalidated the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933;
  • Louisville Joint Stock Land Bank v. Radford, 295 US 555 (1935) found the federal government violated the Fifth Amendment in the Farm Bankruptcy Act of 1934;
  • United States v. Butler, 297 US 1 (1936) held the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1933 to be in violation of Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the US Constitution; and
  • Carter v. Carter Coal Co., 298 US 238 (1936) overturned Bituminous Cal Conservation Act of 1935 for violating the Tenth Amendment.

2. The FACT is that, throughout the 30's, while African-American party ID was split almost evenly between the Democratic Party and the GOP, FDR garnered about 65% of the vote because he was the only candidate promoting civil rights (at the FEDERAL level) as part of the New Deal. Northern Republicans were telling black voters to "be patient" about matters of equality. And ALL southern politicians (GOP and Democratic) were OPPOSED to civil rights in any form. THAT is why African-American voters supported FDR. It was rational and logical, and clearly in the best interests of all fair-minded, decent Americans.
Since when have Democrats ever promoted civil rights? Only the Republicans have ever voted for civil rights legislation, while the majority of Democrats have always opposed them. That is also part of the historical record if you care to visit the Library of Congress. So be careful about dismissing these verifiable facts, as I demonstrated above.

3. Abusive and condenscending treatment? What nonsense. Give some examples, if you can. Of course, you won't, because that is just another popular empty-headed talking point for you people. In reality, no one has ever suggested, or believed, that the Democratic Party was perfect-only that it has been CLEARLY the only reasonable option for African-Americans since the end of the Eisenhower era, at the very least.
You mean like all the lynching and segregation Democrats did in the southern States? Or perhaps you need to be reminded of the Democrat-created Ku Klux Klan. Even today Democrats staunchly support Affirmative Action, which is as demeaning to minorities and women as it gets. Democrats are supporting the concept that minorities and women are so inferior that they require special government support to make a more balanced playing field. It doesn't get any more condescending than that.

4. "Slum conditions created everywhere they hold power"? Again, please give concrete examples of the Democratic policies that created "slum conditions". And then please use that "logic" to tell us why brainwashed poor, rural and working class WHITE VOTERS throughout the South...throughout the Appalachians...throughout the Upper/Mountain west...continue to vote for Republicans, even as the GOP has held power over those communities for the last 40+ years, ok? And, know this: When you can't answer that last question, understand that you have been exposed.
Cities where Democrats have held power for decades include, but certainly not limited to:

  • Washington D.C.;
  • Baltimore;
  • Detroit;
  • Chicago;
  • St. Louis;
  • New Orleans; and
  • San Francisco.
The above cities, just to name a few, are fine examples of Democrats turning once prosperous and thriving cities into sh*thole slums with outrageously high unemployment and crime, the highest in the nation by far. The following meme says it all.

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“I spent a year and a half running from these guys (Antifa). Running through kitchens going through back doors hiding from them! Not any more. Black Americans, if you have the audacity to think for yourselves #BLEXIT! — Candace Owens

Video: link
 
ok who wants to start the betting with me?

If trump gets 80% or more of the black vote you get to control my avatar and signature for a year!
If not i get to control yours

any takers :)

crickets!
 
crickets!

I’ll do the same, but drop it to 20% If Trump gets more than 20% of the black vote nationwide, you get to control my avatar and signature for a year. If not, I get to control yours.

Any conservatives want to take the bet?
 
Denying history is an incredibly stupid thing to do when there is documented evidence. Such as the specific Supreme Court cases that held New Deal laws to be unconstitutional. Such as:

  • Panama Refining Co. v. Ryan, 293 US 388 (1935) invalidated the National Industrial Recovery Act;
  • Railroad Retirement Board v. Alton Railway Co., 295 US 330 (1935) invalidated the Railroad Pension Act of 1934;
  • Schechter Poultry Corp. v. US, 295 US 495 (1935) invalidated the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933;
  • Louisville Joint Stock Land Bank v. Radford, 295 US 555 (1935) found the federal government violated the Fifth Amendment in the Farm Bankruptcy Act of 1934;
  • United States v. Butler, 297 US 1 (1936) held the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1933 to be in violation of Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the US Constitution; and
  • Carter v. Carter Coal Co., 298 US 238 (1936) overturned Bituminous Cal Conservation Act of 1935 for violating the Tenth Amendment.


Since when have Democrats ever promoted civil rights? Only the Republicans have ever voted for civil rights legislation, while the majority of Democrats have always opposed them. That is also part of the historical record if you care to visit the Library of Congress. So be careful about dismissing these verifiable facts, as I demonstrated above.

You mean like all the lynching and segregation Democrats did in the southern States? Or perhaps you need to be reminded of the Democrat-created Ku Klux Klan. Even today Democrats staunchly support Affirmative Action, which is as demeaning to minorities and women as it gets. Democrats are supporting the concept that minorities and women are so inferior that they require special government support to make a more balanced playing field. It doesn't get any more condescending than that.


Cities where Democrats have held power for decades include, but certainly not limited to:

  • Washington D.C.;
  • Baltimore;
  • Detroit;
  • Chicago;
  • St. Louis;
  • New Orleans; and
  • San Francisco.
The above cities, just to name a few, are fine examples of Democrats turning once prosperous and thriving cities into sh*thole slums with outrageously high unemployment and crime, the highest in the nation by far. The following meme says it all.

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Any particular reason your dumb ass meme changes the format in the last image?
 

No, I'm posting information refuting all your claims that Trump can take credit for the record low unemployment among black people in the U.S. You also keep posting known right-wing sources. When I provide something a bit more neutral, suddenly I'm blind? GTFO

First, a more neutral perspective of the record unemployment:


African-American unemployment hit record low in December


More info on minority unemployment:

AP FACT CHECK: Trump on unemployment for blacks, Latinos



WASHINGTON (AP) — A look at one of President Donald Trump’s statements from his State of the Union address on Tuesday night and how it compares with the facts:

TRUMP: “African-American, Hispanic-American and Asian-American unemployment have all reached their lowest levels ever recorded.”

THE FACTS: What he’s not saying is that the unemployment rates for all three groups have gone up since reaching record low levels.

Black unemployment reached a record low, 5.9 percent, in May, but rose to 6.8 percent in January.

Latino unemployment fell to 4.4 percent, its lowest ever, last October, and Asian unemployment fell to a record low of 2.2 percent in May. But Latino and Asian unemployment also have increased, in part because of the government shutdown, which elevated unemployment last month.

The African-American rate is still nearly double the jobless rate for whites, at 3.5 percent.

The most dramatic drop in black unemployment came under President Barack Obama, when it fell from a recession high of 16.8 percent in March 2010 to 7.8 percent in January 2017.

Posting this one again too, because it absolutely relevant:

AP FACT CHECK: Trump on black unemployment

So what you're saying is that things are better in general for the people who comprise this demographic since Trump took office.

As JFK said, "A rising tide lifts all boats".

Improvement is improvement. You are arguing that other demographic groups have improved more than this demographic group so any improvement is bad since it's not the "most" improved.

That is divisive income inequality crap.

If an individual is drowning and is plucked from the water to the safety of a life boat, by your logic, you'd say he's worse off because he's not in a penthouse suite on dry land.
 
Black People have been watching and victims of a system of white society stupidity for centuries; people should by now have learned to stop trying to manipulate and play "idiot" games targeted at black people. There is no mass black support for anything the "Right Wing -"Conservative"-"Confederate"-"Republican Ideologist" have in their party or their agenda that is of appeal or benefit to or for black people.

There many not be mass wealthy in the broader segment of black people, but don't be foolish enough to think that black people measure themselves to the degree by money and material things, to the level that so many in white society measure themselves. What one does not see in the black community, is: They don't see a mass of young black kids committing suicide because someone did not like their clothes or hair or because their family does not have money or some material objects, there is no mass cycle of black people killing the family becasue they find themselves buried in debt, or black people. As to the bullying, not even during the era of segregation with all the public denigration, black kids did not go home and kill themselves. They are not plotting to shoot up schools, or burning churches, and they are not open to accepting being hoodwinked by any "Right Wing -"Conservative"-"Confederate"-"Republican Ideologist".

People forget, black people had many situational centuries and decades to know how to spot "Right Wing -"Conservative"-"Confederate"-"Republican Ideologist" in a very quick over-view. Black people were not "hoodwinked groomed" by a long history of "White TV Character", where as white society has a general non suspect mentality about other white people, if they resemble some "TV Character". We see how (some) white people don't take serious the malice of Lori Loughlinr", because they associate her as if she is, the TV Character they became enamored with; with not even a concept to know she is not the Individual of which the Character who played the script depicted.

Some of these people still believe in the Andy of Mayberry imagery, and the John Wayne Media Character Imagery... Segregation Era invested a great deal in promoting imagery in media in commercials as a grooming tool... until people think those show are real life. Unaware to look at their own lives and see it is not the TV Script or the Commercial Advertisement Imagery they see in the Media.

Black people have a very deep awareness of Politics, beause it is politics that promoted and sanctioned slavery and spread the segregationist ideas, and it is the same spread of such political ideology that have damaged black people economic opportunities for centuries and decades.

Maybe some of these people should have given attention to "Motown 60"... where it spoke of how black society made music for "society", and over the decades it brought "All" ethnicity of people together, around the globe. MLK, spoke about "Human Unity", and in society, black people don't have a mission to deny whites the same thing black want for themselves. Black people have never been a society that begrudges whites having the same things blacks want for themselves. Sadly, much of the "Right Wing -"Conservative"-"Confederate"-"Republican Ideologist" CAN'T say the same thing!!!!
 
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This is STILL a LIE. It was a lie the first time you said it, and nothing has changed. So, I guess, liars just do what they do, huh?:roll: Wages are NOT at an all-time high. And median household incomes have risen under EVERY president. In fact, INFLATION adjusted incomes is DOWN under this president.


Another conclusions based upon a false assumption. What we've learned about you, so far, is that you are the kind of rightwinger who runs from facts, and the people who challenge you with facts. Typical anti-intellectual angry-white-guy stuff, basically.


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I just gotta say.....empty-headed, brainwashed Trump acolytes really do make me laugh, somethings. What kind of idiot SERIOUSLY believes that a mediocre student who inherited almost a BILLION dollars from his daddy....who's personal and professional life includes multiple bankruptcies, literally dozens of defaulted million-dollar-plus loans, 3 wives, dozens of mistresses and documented histories of racial discrimination....and whose presidency has been predicated upon restricting personal freedoms......actually espouses the ideals of "self-reliance, personal freedom and individual integrity"? Of course, intelligent Americans understand that Trump represents the literal antithesis of those things.


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More ignorance (or, thinly disguised racial bigotry). Only someone who doesn't understand what racism is....would say what you just said. Wake up, Rip Van Winkle. The 60's are long-gone. It's not the 21st century, and your old Democratic Party bigots are now all comfortably residing within the GOP.


This is the same LIE that you've repeated several times in this thread. I've documented it, and challenged you to rebut me, each time. So far, you've only run from me. Could that be because you know you're lying...and don't care? I think so. It's just what you people do. LOL.

You're wrong on every point you lie about.

Throwing pearls before Swine seems like a waste of time, but I'll try again.

Access to this page has been denied.

Median household income in the United States rose to $63,688 in January 2019, a 0.3% increase over the Sentier Research's estimate of $63,517 for December 2018. The following chart shows the nominal (red) and inflation-adjusted (blue) trends for median household income in the United States from January 2000 through November 2018. The inflation-adjusted figures are presented in terms of constant January 2019 U.S. dollars.

While the overall trend since December 2016 remains positive for U.S. median household income growth, the rate at which it is growing appears to be starting to slow, which can be seen in the following chart showing the year-over-year growth rate:
 
Sadly, much of the "Right Wing -"Conservative"-"Confederate"-"Republican Ideologist" CAN'T say the same thing!!!!
You were doing just fine, until you got to the above piece of fiction. Considering the Marxist indoctrination centers that try to pass themselves off as public schools, I can't really fault you for not knowing.

It was the Republicans who not only freed the slaves (every slaveholder by 1860 was a Democrat), but also enacted Reparation legislation for all former slaves (which was vetoed by a Democrat President), and enacted every Civil Rights bill since 1866. Despite stiff opposition by the Democrats.
 
You were doing just fine, until you got to the above piece of fiction. Considering the Marxist indoctrination centers that try to pass themselves off as public schools, I can't really fault you for not knowing.

It was the Republicans who not only freed the slaves (every slaveholder by 1860 was a Democrat), but also enacted Reparation legislation for all former slaves (which was vetoed by a Democrat President), and enacted every Civil Rights bill since 1866. Despite stiff opposition by the Democrats.

Don't cherry pick... learn history, try starting with 1969, to correct your selective omission of facts.... but even before you went into that spill... you discredit yourself by calling AMERICA'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS... Marxist Indoctrination.... see... you can't help but expose yourself as a Right Wing Bigot no matter how covert and deceptive you try to be.
 
Denying history is an incredibly stupid thing to do when there is documented evidence. Such as the specific Supreme Court cases that held New Deal laws to be unconstitutional. Such as:
  • Panama Refining Co. v. Ryan, 293 US 388 (1935) i......
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Talk about bait and switch arguments! Ignorance of history isn't the issue here (at least, not for me). The issue here is a familiar one: blind ideologues, like you, don't understand or read enough to know how to put history in proper context. In this case, you and I both know that you said "social programs". The New Deal was a series of legislative reforms that included mainstream social programs (like SS, labor laws, etc), as well as major regulatory reforms and financial/market reforms. Calling the NIRA, the RPA, etc. "social programs" is something that only a radical rightwinger (who views all federal government interference as such) would do. And, I'm sorry, but that's just dumb.

The New Deal's "social programs" were largely upheld in the courts. That's the point to be made here. We all know that there were many programs that were successfully challenged, but most of those involved banking regulations, business/market regulations, and the like. But the SOCIAL PROGRAMS that wingnuts have always opposed (i.e. SS, Housing Act, Wage/Labor laws, etc) were largely upheld in the courts.
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Since when have Democrats ever promoted civil rights? Only the Republicans have ever voted for civil rights legislation, while the majority of Democrats have always opposed them. That is also part of the historical record if you care to visit the Library of Congress. So be careful about dismissing these verifiable facts, as I demonstrated above.
Again, READ a little history (since you obviously didn't live it). Geez...just MORONICALLY stupid comments and questions from you.
Take the Civil Rights Act of '64. About 60% of Democrats in the House supported it (i.e. 152 FOR, 96 AGAINST). In the Senate, about 70% of Democrats supported it (i.e. 46 FOR, 21 AGAINST). So, CLEARLY, you are a righty whose views are based upon emotions and the wingnut propaganda that you people are being fed daily. But that's not the real bottom line here. The FACT of the matter (with regard to support/opposition for Civil Rights) is that the divide was NOT along party lines, but along IDEOLOGICAL lines. In general, CONSERVATIVES (of both parties) have ALWAYS opposed Civil Rights, while LIBERALS (regardless of party) have supported Civil Rights.

The only thing that has changed over the last 50 years is that the two parties have been realigned along strictly ideological lines. The GOP is now home to almost ALL social conservatives who remain hostile toward African-Americans and other racial/religious minorities in this country. That why people like you,who would have been Democrats 50 years ago, call the GOP home today.


You mean like all the lynching and segregation [RIGHT WING SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES] did in the southern States? Or perhaps you need to be reminded of the [RIGHT WING SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES]-created Ku Klux Klan.

There, I fixed it for you...in terms that even you should be able to understand. Party ID, from a historical or academic perspective, is irrelevant. Understanding this was, and is, all about understanding IDEOLOGY. There were social conservatives in both parties during the Jim Crow era of our history...and they all aligned with opposition to civil rights and hostility toward African-Americans. The fact that Southern-style Democrats were dominant in the former Confederate states (and among those who sympathized with the "Lost (traitorous) Cause") was not a coincidence.

Even today Democrats staunchly support Affirmative Action, which is as demeaning to minorities and women as it gets.
No, it's not. You're (once again) mistaking your angry-white-guy views for those of society as a whole. The FACT is that AA is rarely a factor in the workplace. It's just that angry-white-guys (like you) amplify it as a way to stir up white grievance among other resentful and/or underachieving whites, like them.

Democrats are supporting the concept that minorities and women are so inferior that they require special government support to make a more balanced playing field. It doesn't get any more condescending than that.
LOL, nonsense. Yet again, you mistake your emotion-based opinions for acknowledged facts. You can't help it. That's your sense of entitlement showing itself, yet again. It's stupid, but you can't see it. With every remark, your "issues" are becoming more and more clear, for all to see.
 
Cities where Democrats have held power for decades include, but certainly not limited to:

  • Washington D.C.;
  • Baltimore;
  • Detroit;
  • Chicago;
  • St. Louis;
  • New Orleans; and
  • San Francisco.
The above cities, just to name a few, are fine examples of Democrats turning once prosperous and thriving cities into sh*thole slums with outrageously high unemployment and crime, the highest in the nation by far.

:roll:Typical talk-radio bigotry-inspired ignorance. Your racial bigotry is very poorly disguised, "Glitch".

So once again I challenge you to address the following (and you'll run away from the question again, like all standard, message-board cowards):
  • Please tell us what the RACE of city leadership had to do with loss of ALL of the auto and manufacturing hubs in cities throughout the Midwest.
  • Please tell us why WHITE VOTERS throughout the South and Appalachia, in cities and states that have "enjoyed" DECADES of consistent GOP control, continue to blindly support the GOP.
  • Tell us, what have 40 years of tax cuts for the rich, de-funded public schools and de-funded public infrastructure (among other things) done for all of you angry-white-guy/white grievance voters, huh?
  • San Francisco and Washington, D.C.?? :lamo Dude, clearly you don't travel very much. Why is that? Can you not afford it, or is this just another example of you being a loyal "FAKE-NEWS" embiber?


The following meme says it all.
Yes, it does. It says that you really do have "issues" about race...that you are a blind right-wing ideologue...and that you are neither interested in having, nor intellectually equipped to hold a substantive debate on these issues.
 
Don't cherry pick... learn history, try starting with 1969, to correct your selective omission of facts.... but even before you went into that spill... you discredit yourself by calling AMERICA'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS... Marxist Indoctrination.... see... you can't help but expose yourself as a Right Wing Bigot no matter how covert and deceptive you try to be.

Actually, after the 1968 election and Wallace's crushing defeat, the southern states began voting for Republicans. They had had enough of Democrat bigots. Which is why by 1972 Nixon had won those very same southern States that supported George Wallace in 1968, giving him the biggest landslide victory in US history at that time (Reagan would later beat it in 1984).

Public schools became Marxist indoctrination centers in 1980 after Democrats created the federal Department of Education. One of the very first things they did was to abolish civics requirements.

This is why the US went from being in the top 10 industrialized nations in science and mathematics prior to 1980 to becoming the 20th and 21st industrialized nation in science and mathematics today. It is the long sought after "Dumbing Down of America" Democrats have been striving for since day one.
 
You're wrong on every point you lie about.

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I see you've doubled down on your original ignorance and lies...just like your Dear Leader. It's hardly surprising, I must say.

Now, go back and re-read what i said.

  • I said you were LYING when you said that "median incomes are at an all-time high". That is a FACT. You were LYING, and the fact that you keep running away from every chance to document that stupid, dishonest comment...makes it clear to me that you know it, too.
  • I also told you that median household incomes are NOT at an "all-time high", as you claimed. That was LIE #2, from you. And you know it.
  • I also told you that median household incomes have risen under EVERY president. So that claim, on behalf of Trump, was just IGNORANT, FoxNews talk. I was correct, and the total deflection from that allegation makes it clear that you know it, too.
  • You claimed that Trump's values reflect "personal responsibility, individual integrity and personal freedom". That was probably the DUMBEST thing anyone has ever said on this board. I simply pointed out that little bit of stupidity as a reflection of how brainwashed you and your ilk really are. Obviously, you can't rebut that, either. So let's note that, as well.
  • Finally, I pointed out that ANYONE who honestly argues that Democrats (and/or liberals) are the "real" racists in America.....is either a fool, or a liar. Those are pretty much the only two options, and it really doesn't matter what people like you think about that. Bullfrogs don't think they're ugly...but their opinions don't really matter, either. LOL.

Now, if you think you can summon the intellectual "muscle" to actually rebut ANY of the above FACTS that have been noted, by me, about you in this thread...please do so. Otherwise, you're only making yourself the fool in this thread. Based upon your previous history of avoidance, deflection and dissembling, it is my strong belief that you will continue to do same....because you and both know that I've pegged you correctly, don't we?
 
The New Deal's "social programs" were largely upheld in the courts. That's the point to be made here. We all know that there were many programs that were successfully challenged, but most of those involved banking regulations, business/market regulations, and the like. But the SOCIAL PROGRAMS that wingnuts have always opposed (i.e. SS, Housing Act, Wage/Labor laws, etc) were largely upheld in the courts.
You are factually incorrect. There are a total of 15 New Deal programs enacted by Congress, 11 of them were struck down by the Supreme Court. Even those that remained are questionable. The federal government's power is limited by the US Constitution, something the Democratic Party hasn't quite seemed to grasp yet, despite being reminded by the Supreme Court almost annually. Nobody has ever accused Democrats of being particular bright, particularly those who refute documented evidence from the Supreme Court.

Take the Civil Rights Act of '64. About 60% of Democrats in the House supported it (i.e. 152 FOR, 96 AGAINST).
Of those 96 who were against the legislation in the House, 91 of them were Democrats. So clearly without the Republicans there would never have been a veto-proof majority.

The only thing that has changed over the last 50 years is that the two parties have been realigned along strictly ideological lines. The GOP is now home to almost ALL social conservatives who remain hostile toward African-Americans and other racial/religious minorities in this country. That why people like you,who would have been Democrats 50 years ago, call the GOP home today.
Again, you are mistaken. The GOP have never been hostile towards blacks, or any minority. Unlike the Democrats, Republicans support the founding principles of the nation - "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" for everyone.

There, I fixed it for you...in terms that even you should be able to understand.
All you did was try to change history, once again. Sorry, but it doesn't work that you. You can't just manufacture any old history that pleases you. Democrats created the Jim Crow "equal but separate laws," just as Democrats created the federal Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 that arrested free blacks and run-away slaves alike. Democrats are also the creators of the KKK and there is no dodging that reality. Just like the Democrats created the National Socialist Movement (a.k.a. "Neo-NAZIs"), and the ALF & ELF environmental terrorist organizations, as well as the BLM and ANTIFA domestic terrorist organizations.

That is all Democrats know is hatred and violence. As evidenced by every election they lose.

No, it's not. You're (once again) mistaking your angry-white-guy views for those of society as a whole. The FACT is that AA is rarely a factor in the workplace. It's just that angry-white-guys (like you) amplify it as a way to stir up white grievance among other resentful and/or underachieving whites, like them.
Of course it is demeaning and condescending, and I can prove it. Since all minorities and all women are recipients of Affirmative Action, whether they want it or not, why is it Democrats become so upset whenever it is pointed out that Obama is the very first Affirmative Action President in US history? Wasn't that suppose to be the point of Affirmative Action, to help minorities and women to become something they could never possibly be without government support?
 
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I see you've doubled down on your original ignorance and lies...just like your Dear Leader. It's hardly surprising, I must say.

Now, go back and re-read what i said.

  • I said you were LYING when you said that "median incomes are at an all-time high". That is a FACT. You were LYING, and the fact that you keep running away from every chance to document that stupid, dishonest comment...makes it clear to me that you know it, too.
  • I also told you that median household incomes are NOT at an "all-time high", as you claimed. That was LIE #2, from you. And you know it.
  • I also told you that median household incomes have risen under EVERY president. So that claim, on behalf of Trump, was just IGNORANT, FoxNews talk. I was correct, and the total deflection from that allegation makes it clear that you know it, too.
  • You claimed that Trump's values reflect "personal responsibility, individual integrity and personal freedom". That was probably the DUMBEST thing anyone has ever said on this board. I simply pointed out that little bit of stupidity as a reflection of how brainwashed you and your ilk really are. Obviously, you can't rebut that, either. So let's note that, as well.
  • Finally, I pointed out that ANYONE who honestly argues that Democrats (and/or liberals) are the "real" racists in America.....is either a fool, or a liar. Those are pretty much the only two options, and it really doesn't matter what people like you think about that. Bullfrogs don't think they're ugly...but their opinions don't really matter, either. LOL.

Now, if you think you can summon the intellectual "muscle" to actually rebut ANY of the above FACTS that have been noted, by me, about you in this thread...please do so. Otherwise, you're only making yourself the fool in this thread. Based upon your previous history of avoidance, deflection and dissembling, it is my strong belief that you will continue to do same....because you and both know that I've pegged you correctly, don't we?

Well, you are truly a true believer.

Logic, fact and real world occurrences have no impact on your belief system.

You must be a Democrat.

After Trump has placed his fourth nominee on the Supreme Court in 2023, it won't make much difference, I suppose...

You are free to deny reality and ignore the real world. I hope that you and AOC are very happy together.
 
For Starters: Let's just note that you are STILL are too afraid to address my direct questions of you, as itemized neatly for you in my previous response. That, alone, tells me a lot about you and your mentality.
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You are factually incorrect. There are a total of 15 New Deal programs enacted by Congress, 11 of them were struck down by the Supreme Court. Even those that remained are questionable. The federal government's power is limited by the US Constitution, something the Democratic Party hasn't quite seemed to grasp yet, despite being reminded by the Supreme Court almost annually. Nobody has ever accused Democrats of being particular bright, particularly those who refute documented evidence from the Supreme Court.
You keep saying stupid things, and I'll keep setting you straight, ok?
Stop lying. There were LITERALLY DOZENS of programs and agencies created over 3 phases, as part of the New Deal. Next, when you consider bedrock laws like Glass-Stegall, which prevented another Depression for almost 7 decades (until it was gutted by the Clinton/Gingrich team), so any idea that remaining New Deal programs were constitutionally "questionable" is just more of the FoxNews-styled idiocy that you've been spreading in this thread. Finally, your ignorant, wingnut ideas about the limits of the federal government aren't worth the time it takes you to give them. Sorry.

Of those 96 who were against the legislation in the House, 91 of them were Democrats. So clearly without the Republicans there would never have been a veto-proof majority.
Stop. You're making yourself look like an idiot. Just admit you were WRONG when you stated that "ONLY Republicans" supported Civil Rights...and that "the majority of Democrats have always opposed them"...and that "this is part of historical record in the Library of Congress". Those were ALL LIES, and you know it. And the FACT here is that large majorities of Democrats in BOTH HOUSES supported the Civil Rights Act. Practically the ONLY votes against it came of the CONSERVATIVES of both parties. Period. Full Stop. Clearly, your attempt, here, to deflect from that proves that you know you got caught spewing lies/ignorance.

Again, you are mistaken. The GOP have never been hostile towards blacks, or any minority. Unlike the Democrats, Republicans support the founding principles of the nation - "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" for everyone.
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You're trying to pretend to be retarded, right? Of course, you KNOW that I said that CONSERVATIVES (of both parties) have ALWAYS opposed Civil Rights, and endorsed/promoted racism toward minority groups in this country. Today, the GOP is THE home for the social conservatives who still adhere to racism and bigotry. This stuff is simply NOT arguable. So stop trying. It makes you look silly.


All you did was try to change history, once again. Sorry, but it doesn't work that you. You can't just manufacture any old history that pleases you. Democrats created the Jim Crow "equal but separate laws," just as Democrats created the federal Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 that arrested free blacks and run-away slaves alike. Democrats are also the creators of the KKK and there is no dodging that reality.
Again...this is your "retarded" act, right? Why else would you continue to ignore my remarks and respond to arguments that I have not made? Those FACTS are not open to debate. No one is "dodging" the history of the Democratic party. It is YOU who is dodging the history of the Conservative movement in America. The FACT is that CONSERVATIVES supported slavery. CONSERVATIVES supported the Confederacy. CONSERVATIVES dismantled Reconstruction, then created and enforced a century of Jim Crow. CONSERVATIVES created the KKK and the CCC. CONSERVATIVES opposed Civil Rights in the 20th Century. And CONSERVATIVES are responsible for most of the hate crimes and domestic terrorism in America today. The ONLY thing that has changed over the last 150 years is that those bigots and racists gradually migrated from the Democratic to the Republican party beginning in the 1940's and ending in the 1980's. The party labels have changed, but the ideology (i.e. Social Conservatism) has remained the same. And no amount of historical revisionism by uneducated rightwingers can refute those FACTS. Period. End of discussion.
 
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Just like the Democrats created the National Socialist Movement (a.k.a. "Neo-NAZIs"), and the ALF & ELF environmental terrorist organizations, as well as the BLM and ANTIFA domestic terrorist organizations.
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This is the kind of idiocy that confirms my initial impressions of you. You really are one of those irrational, emotional, empty-headed right wingers who gets his "news" from fake news sources, aren't you? I didn't want to believe it, at first. But the above just makes it obvious.

No, the Democrats did NOT create the Nazi Party. LOL.
No, BLM is NOT a terrorist group (unlike many of the white nationalist people and groups that populate your Republican Party, btw).
And ELF, ALF, and ANTIFA.....COMBINED.....don't hold a candle to the number, or severity of domestic terrorist activities of right wing white nationalist/supremacist/sovereign citizen groups out there.
But hey, don't let that FACTS confuse you. Just cling to your angry white guy delusions about non-whites and non-conservatives, ok? I'll just keep laughing at you. LOL.

That is all Democrats know is hatred and violence. As evidenced by every election they lose.
...says someone who undoubtedly supported the angry white Tea Party mobs. LOL.

Of course it is demeaning and condescending, and I can prove it. Since all minorities and all women are recipients of Affirmative Action, whether they want it or not...
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Bless your angry little heart. You thought you proved your point? Well, first.....Affirmative Action isn't random. It's a very specific process. Most minorities (and women) do NOT receive AA. But thanks for saying that, because it let's everyone know just who clueless and emotional you are. You really should educate yourself about some of the things that motivate your anger.

why is it Democrats become so upset whenever it is pointed out that Obama is the very first Affirmative Action President in US history?
This makes zero sense, given that Obama won two landslide popular and electoral victories by defeating white candidates. But I know what people like you think. You people are obsessed with race and filled with resentment. I get it. I do.

Wasn't that suppose to be the point of Affirmative Action, to help minorities and women to become something they could never possibly be without government support?
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Ummm...NO. That would be what the bigots and racists among us THOUGHT Affirmative Action was about. So, once again, THANKS for identifying yourself so clearly.
 
ok who wants to start the betting with me?

if trump gets 80% or more of the black vote you get to control my avatar and signature for a year!
if not i get to control yours

any takers :)

I’ll do the same, but drop it to 20% If Trump gets more than 20% of the black vote nationwide, you get to control my avatar and signature for a year. If not, I get to control yours.

Any conservatives want to take the bet?

DOesnt look like anybody is interested in either bet lol
 
I'm saying in no universe will Trump get even 10% of Black voters, much less 60%. Look at all the rhetoric you've already used. You've called them mindless block voters who are brainwashed by the media because they're too stupid and uninformed to judge Trump on his own words and actions. You said their situation is so incredibly bad it couldn't possibly get worse.

You seriously think these arguments will convince them? Keep going, please.

Trump received 13% of the black male vote in the 2016 election, a little work on the black women & he'll
easily get to 10% in 2020. If he gets 10% it's all over for the Dems & they are worried. The only way the
Demi can keep Trump down to the almost 9% he got in 2016 would be the nominate a black candidate in
2020 probably Harris has the best chance.
 
In 1975, Trump settled in court for racial discrimination against black Americans and Hispanics. It's a documented reality that the President is known for being a bigoted turd.

It's 1975 your talking about, many if not all real estate moguls in the city were doing the same thing. They were protecting
there business interests. In the same era George Wallace won the Michigan & Maryland primaries on the same day.
Imagine a George Wallace type winning a democratic primary in the Maryland of today!!!!! That's how weak your attempt to
trash Trump is.
 
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