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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Conventional wisdom was typically governor's experience translated as the best experience for presidents. It is basically the same job on a smaller stage.

    However i think there is an appetite for people outside of washington to lead coming from both parties. I think there is a growing sentiment that france experienced leading up to the french revolution.

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    Could be. Of course what happened immediately after the French Revolution should also be kept in mind.
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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Conventional wisdom was typically governor's experience translated as the best experience for presidents. It is basically the same job on a smaller stage.

    However i think there is an appetite for people outside of washington to lead coming from both parties. I think there is a growing sentiment that france experienced leading up to the french revolution.

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    Washington experience (especially as senator) should be a disqualifier.

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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    ???

    You said a candidate could be a buyer. I asked you how. You respond about a candidate being bought.

    Dude...make up your mind what you want to talk about, eh?
    If political candidates or elected officials can be bought, someone out there is doing the buying.

    There's nothing stopping one of those buyers from deciding to run for office. I'm not sure what you're confused about.
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    I don't know who [Individual-1] is and neither do you.

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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If political candidates or elected officials can be bought, someone out there is doing the buying.

    There's nothing stopping one of those buyers from deciding to run for office. I'm not sure what you're confused about.
    LOL!!

    Why does it make a difference if a candidate used to be a buyer? Does that mean, in your mind, that he is bought?

    I know...maybe he bought himself.
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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    LOL!!

    Why does it make a difference if a candidate used to be a buyer? Does that mean, in your mind, that he is bought?

    I know...maybe he bought himself.
    Are not both sides of that transaction corrupt? Why do you think people do the buying in the first place?
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    I don't know who [Individual-1] is and neither do you.

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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    From The Globe and Mail


    Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Gerald Ford had more of it than Jimmy Carter. George H.W. Bush had more of it than Ronald Reagan. Al Gore had more of it than George W. Bush. Richard Nixon had more of it than John F. Kennedy. And Donald Trump had none of it at all.

    But the question is this: Does Washington experience – or other political experience – really matter, in seeking the American presidency or in actually being the American President?

    It is an academic question – scholars have been debating this for more than a century – but it is also a practical one, particularly relevant as nearly two dozen Democrats, many of them with little or even no traditional experience, seek to defeat an incumbent President who himself had no traditional political experience. The latest is the mayor of South Bend, Ind., who officially launched his campaign on Sunday. Pete Buttigieg has already attained zeitgeist status with his fresh face and folksy manner that overshadow his inexperience at 37 years old.

    The 2020 Democratic field is unusually weak in traditional presidential preparation. Seven of the party’s White House hopefuls have been on Capitol Hill only six years. One of them, Kamala Harris, has been in the Senate only two years. Two of them have never served in an office higher than mayor. Two of them – one an entrepreneur, the other the author of spiritual and self-help books – have no political experience at all. And one of them with enormous experience – Jay Inslee, with 15 years in the House of Representatives and six as governor of Washington State – isn’t considered a major contender.

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    It appears to me that the real question to be asked is "Is ANY experience still relevant in the U.S. presidential race, or is the only relevant factor 'electability'?".

    What does it seem like to you?
    Not as important as REAL WORLD experience, especially in INTERNATIONAL as well as DOMESTIC COMMERCE.

    You know..LIKE THE PRESIDENT.

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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Are not both sides of that transaction corrupt? Why do you think people do the buying in the first place?
    I've always said that the best way to stop the influence of money in politics is to elect politicians who refuse to be influenced by money.
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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I've always said that the best way to stop the influence of money in politics is to elect politicians who refuse to be influenced by money.
    I don’t disagree, but how can we determine that before hand? It isn’t like most multimillionaires and billionaires aren’t influenced by money. Even once they have enough money to live a comfortable life many times over many keep trying to accrue MORE money.

    There ARE rich people who once they get to a comfortable point stop. And for those people money really isn’t a factor in their lives anymore. But those types of people, content people, tend not to run for high office.
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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I've always said that the best way to stop the influence of money in politics is to elect politicians who refuse to be influenced by money.
    Yeah but the dude who was previously buying politicians is definitely not that person.
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    I don't know who [Individual-1] is and neither do you.

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    Re: Is Washington experience no longer relevant in the U.S. presidential race?

    Americans are FED UP with "Washington insiders" = why Trump is POTUS, and will remain so.

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