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How the world votes: 2019

TU Curmudgeon

TU Curmudgeon

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From al-Jazeera

How the world votes: 2019
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In 2019, more people will vote than ever before.


Nearly two billion voters in 50 countries around the world will head to the polls this year to elect their leaders.

Some of the biggest elections include India - the world’s largest democracy with 800 million eligible voters, Indonesia - 187 million registered voters and Nigeria - 84 million registered voters.

Here’s how different voting systems work around the world:

COMMENT:-

An interesting interactive graphic presentation that I thought some might find interesting.

PS - It will probably surprise some people to know that parts of this graphic were actually used by the Province of British Columbia in a recent referendum on whether to change the "electoral method" in BC.

PPS - Did you know that the main interest of the Indian government is to ensure that EVERY eligible voter actually gets a chance to vote, and that the Indian laws respecting elections specify that NO ONE can be required to travel more than 2 km (1.25 miles) to a polling place?
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A lot of those are "elections".
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From al-Jazeera

How the world votes: 2019
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In 2019, more people will vote than ever before.


Nearly two billion voters in 50 countries around the world will head to the polls this year to elect their leaders.

Some of the biggest elections include India - the world’s largest democracy with 800 million eligible voters, Indonesia - 187 million registered voters and Nigeria - 84 million registered voters.

Here’s how different voting systems work around the world:

COMMENT:-

An interesting interactive graphic presentation that I thought some might find interesting.

PS - It will probably surprise some people to know that parts of this graphic were actually used by the Province of British Columbia in a recent referendum on whether to change the "electoral method" in BC.

PPS - Did you know that the main interest of the Indian government is to ensure that EVERY eligible voter actually gets a chance to vote, and that the Indian laws respecting elections specify that NO ONE can be required to travel more than 2 km (1.25 miles) to a polling place?
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Greenland, Swaziland, Bhutan, China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, and Qatar all have elections.
 
Carjosse said:
A lot of those are "elections".
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A comment that means - what?

Are you implying that an election is ONLY valid if the competing parties actually have different ideologies, support different sub-sets of the social matrix, and actually work to ensure that all eligible voters have a reasonably accessible way of voting for representatives in electoral districts which have not been "adjusted" so as to ensure that one party has an electoral advantage and which are run/overseen by politically independent bodies?

If that is what you mean, wouldn't that indicate that the US does not have valid "elections"?
 
AmNat said:
Greenland, Swaziland, Bhutan, China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, and Qatar all have elections.
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True, and your point would be - what? That Greenland is a Communist (ref. China) Dictatorship (ref. DPRK) Monarchy (ref. Saudi Arabia) run by Muslims (ref. Qatar)?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
True, and your point would be - what? That Greenland is a Communist (ref. China) Dictatorship (ref. DPRK) Monarchy (ref. Saudi Arabia) run by Muslims (ref. Qatar)?
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Those were the countries omitted from the map.
 
In the article is showed that the United States didn't allow everyone to vote until the 1960's. Where did they get that information from? Blacks were given the right to vote in 1870, Women given the right to vote in 1920, Native Americans given the right to vote in 1927, did I leave anyone out???? The first Black elected to congress was elected in 1870, so if blacks couldn't vote and had no right then how did this happen.
 
Terryj said:
In the article is showed that the United States didn't allow everyone to vote until the 1960's. Where did they get that information from? Blacks were given the right to vote in 1870, Women given the right to vote in 1920, Native Americans given the right to vote in 1927, did I leave anyone out???? The first Black elected to congress was elected in 1870, so if blacks couldn't vote and had no right then how did this happen.
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Not too familiar with the history of discrimination in the South I take it? Black voters were systemically disenfranchised through discriminatory policies in the South after the end of reconstruction till the passing of the Voting Rights Act in 1965.
 
Terryj said:
In the article is showed that the United States didn't allow everyone to vote until the 1960's. Where did they get that information from? Blacks were given the right to vote in 1870, Women given the right to vote in 1920, Native Americans given the right to vote in 1927, did I leave anyone out???? The first Black elected to congress was elected in 1870, so if blacks couldn't vote and had no right then how did this happen.
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Al Jazeera is an anti-American propaganda rag.
 
Carjosse said:
Not too familiar with the history of discrimination in the South I take it? Black voters were systemically disenfranchised through discriminatory policies in the South after the end of reconstruction till the passing of the Voting Rights Act in 1965.
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I'm very familiar with discrimination that took place in the South, however, this doesn't change the fact that blacks were given the right to vote in 1870. The United States is comprised of more States than just the South, your view on this subject needs to be broadened just a bit.
 
Terryj said:
I'm very familiar with discrimination that took place in the South, however, this doesn't change the fact that blacks were given the right to vote in 1870. The United States is comprised of more States than just the South, your view on this subject needs to be broadened just a bit.
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Why can't conservatives admit the obvious? If a country gave all citizens the right to vote, but required a poll tax no one could afford or you had to be 75 years old, is it still a 'fact' they could vote?

Wow, you can lead a horse to water...
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
PPS - Did you know that the main interest of the Indian government is to ensure that EVERY eligible voter actually gets a chance to vote, and that the Indian laws respecting elections specify that NO ONE can be required to travel more than 2 km (1.25 miles) to a polling place?
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Hmmmmm. How do they keep them dark skinned people from vot....wait a second.....oooohhhhhhhhh!
 
Terryj said:
I'm very familiar with discrimination that took place in the South, however, this doesn't change the fact that blacks were given the right to vote in 1870. The United States is comprised of more States than just the South, your view on this subject needs to be broadened just a bit.
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Black citizens in the South had their right to vote infringed for almost a century, makes the fact they were technically given the right in 1870 a moot point.
 
This whole discussion irrationally presupposes that universal suffrage is a good thing in the first place.
 
AmNat said:
Those were the countries omitted from the map.
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The leaders of those countries are not elected.

PS - Greenland is not a country. (But you knew that and were just having fun by pretending that it was - right?)
 
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Terryj said:
In the article is showed that the United States didn't allow everyone to vote until the 1960's. Where did they get that information from? Blacks were given the right to vote in 1870, Women given the right to vote in 1920, Native Americans given the right to vote in 1927, did I leave anyone out???? The first Black elected to congress was elected in 1870, so if blacks couldn't vote and had no right then how did this happen.
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"In 1964, the 24th Amendment, which abolished the use of poll taxes as a requirement for voting in federal elections, was passed. Full enfranchisement was revived in 1965, with the passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which provided for federal enforcement of rights."
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AmNat said:
This whole discussion irrationally presupposes that universal suffrage is a good thing in the first place.
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Since the article merely provided descriptive information on the different methods that different countries use in their elections WITHOUT supplying any "value judgment", how does the "whole discussion irrationally presuppose that universal suffrage is a good thing in the first place"?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
The leaders of those countries are not elected.

PS - Greenland is not a country. (But you knew that and were just having fun by pretending that it was - right?)
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The leader of Japan isn’t elected either.

TU Curmudgeon said:
Since the article merely provided descriptive information on the different methods that different countries use in their elections WITHOUT supplying any "value judgment", how does the "whole discussion irrationally presuppose that universal suffrage is a good thing in the first place"?
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As a purely descriptive matter, no country has universal suffrage. Defining “universal suffrage” to mean “every adult citizen not in jail or mentally incompetent has voting rights” is indicative of a value judgment.
 
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