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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    No, it's not a lie. Trump put out a weirdly weak-on-Nazis statement on August 12 shortly after those Nazis killed a woman. This is what you reference in the OP. He spent two days taking heat on his statement so John Kelly forced him to issue a stronger statement of August 14, which he reportedly regretted doing. He then answered questions at a presser on August 15 in which he backtracked again, defending those Nazis and uttering his infamous "very fine people on both sides" gaffe.
    You snowflakes just make way too many assumptions. You actually believe every single person that was at that rally was a white supremacist and racist? Well sure they were, just like all the ones on the left were crazy antifa scumbags and rioting pychos who destroy property and physically attack innocent citizens on the right.

    All on the left are good people and all on the right are bad people.

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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by beancounter View Post
    Trump University is all anyone needs to know to assess his true character.
    It proved that Trump has a natural born ability to identify and take advantage of suckers. He has continued to do it to this day. Look at the 2016 election results and continued unwavering support if you don't believe me.

    Jim Jones posses the same uncanny ability.
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    The FBI isn't an intelligence agency.

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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by KAG2020 View Post
    This is the beginning of a series of threads about the BIG FIVE lies told about Trump. PART ONE:

    "President Trump called white supremacists 'very fine people!'"

    THAT IS A LIE.

    From THIS SOURCE (Link) I quote the following:

    QUOTE: Whenever Democrats want to blame President Trump for an act of white supremacist violence such as the horrific attack in New Zealand or the imagined attack on Jussie Smollett in Chicago, they and their allies in the national news media invariably cite his statements in the wake of the deadly riot in Charlottesville, Virginia.
    "President Trump called white supremacists 'very fine people!'" they shriek.
    Only he didn't. He actually said the exact opposite.
    In an on-camera statement just two hours after a white supremacist plowed his car into a group of protesters, killing 32 year-old Heather Heyer and injuring 19 people, President Trump expressed his outrage:

    The President's inclusion of the phrase "on many sides" immediately set off a media feeding frenzy. Even though violent members of Antifa had joined with those peacefully protesting the "Unite the Right" rally and had sparked physical altercations with the white supremacists attending the rally, Trump critics immediately pounced on what they considered to be equivocation. It was nothing of the sort.........(END QUOTE)

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    Donald Trump is a racist. Here is a list that spans 56 years and chronicles many of Trump's racist actions during that period of time.

    Donald Trump's entire presidential campaign is about race. He launched his campaign with an argument over whether all Mexican immigrants were rapists and murderers, or merely most of them. He's maintained his relevancy through fall by replacing Latinos with Muslims as the villains of his campaign narrative — including a call to ban them from entering the US.

    It might be easy to write this off as pandering to the segment of America who feels threatened by ethnic difference. But it's not as if Donald J. Trump was a paragon of multiculturalism before he ran for president. Trump has been accused of racism for literally as long as he's been in public life — in his capacities as a real estate developer, a TV star, and now as a politician. At various times, he's insulted African Americans, the Japanese, Native Americans, Muslim Americans and Latinos.

    Through it all, Donald Trump has maintained that he is "the least racist person you will ever meet."

    Here's a — by no means comprehensive — timeline of some previous times Donald Trump has gotten in trouble for racial comments.
    His own people saying Trump is racist:



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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by beancounter View Post
    Trump University is all anyone needs to know to assess his true character.
    True, but itís in competition with the Trump Foundation, his Central Park Five ads, and his comments on Judge Curiel. A lot to choose from.

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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It proved that Trump has a natural born ability to identify and take advantage of suckers. He has continued to do it to this day. Look at the 2016 election results and continued unwavering support if you don't believe me.

    Jim Jones posses the same uncanny ability.
    And the democrat leadership doesn't?

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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyone View Post
    Donald Trump is a racist. Here is a list that spans 56 years and chronicles many of Trump's racist actions during that period of time.



    His own people saying Trump is racist:



    If any campaign is racist its the democrats. Every issue for them turns into a racial issue. Anytime they are loosing an issue they play the race card. If they somehow cannot apply that they go to the gender card. Lately their cry is "old white men" cause all their problems. They are the ones who keep racism alive in our political system.

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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    If any campaign is racist its the democrats. Every issue for them turns into a racial issue. Anytime they are loosing an issue they play the race card. If they somehow cannot apply that they go to the gender card. Lately their cry is "old white men" cause all their problems. They are the ones who keep racism alive in our political system.
    What does your post mean? That Trump is not a racist? That his own people (Republicans) calling him racist means nothing because the Democrats are playing the race card?

    Are you seeking the truth and solution to the problem or just seeking who to blame?

    By the way, are you true to your own nick of integrity and respect or is that just for show?
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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyone View Post
    Donald Trump is a racist. Here is a list that spans 56 years and chronicles many of Trump's racist actions during that period of time.



    His own people saying Trump is racist:



    Maybe there are good reasons to accept hearsay from some people, but I personally would not accept it from either of these people.

    Ryan is not really aligned with Trump just because they're both Republicans. He's the sort of "Washington insider" that Trump campaigned against.

    After Donald Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee in the 2016 presidential election on May 4, 2016, Ryan was hesitant to endorse him, stating on May 5 that he was "not ready".[88] Ryan and Trump met in private on May 12, releasing a joint statement afterward, acknowledging their differences but stating "we recognize that there are also many important areas of common ground."[89] On June 2, Ryan announced his support for Trump in an op-ed in The Janesville Gazette--
    WIKIPEDIA on PAUL RYAN.

    As for Cohen, he's someone Trump employed, but does that make him anything more than a business associate? And he's shown that he's willing to lie for profit, so everything he says is dubious at best.

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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Maybe there are good reasons to accept hearsay from some people, but I personally would not accept it from either of these people.

    Ryan is not really aligned with Trump just because they're both Republicans. He's the sort of "Washington insider" that Trump campaigned against.



    WIKIPEDIA on PAUL RYAN.

    As for Cohen, he's someone Trump employed, but does that make him anything more than a business associate? And he's shown that he's willing to lie for profit, so everything he says is dubious at best.
    Cohen got put in jail because he got caught lying for Trump. If the truth was otherwise, there would not have been a reason to lie for Trump and therefore no reason for going to jail. As such, he is believable simply because lying about Trump was then not necessary. He is 100% believable for that simple reason. In addition, it all makes 100% sense that Trump is everything Cohen says he is. He has proven to be exactly that kind of person throughout his entire life.

    As far as Ryan is concerned, he is a Republican and had no reason to say that Trump lied if he didn't lie. Ryan was not running against Trump and saying something untrue would make him become a Trump enemy, and there is no reason to do that given that he had to work with Trump..

    Common sense is totally against you. You on the other hand are looking at 1 in a hundred million chance that Trump is not a liar.
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    Re: Biggest Lies told About Trump - Part One

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyone View Post
    Cohen got put in jail because he got caught lying for Trump. If the truth was otherwise, there would not have been a reason to lie for Trump and therefore no reason for going to jail. As such, he is believable simply because lying about Trump was then not necessary. He is 100% believable for that simple reason. In addition, it all makes 100% sense that Trump is everything Cohen says he is. He has proven to be exactly that kind of person throughout his entire life.

    As far as Ryan is concerned, he is a Republican and had no reason to say that Trump lied if he didn't lie. Ryan was not running against Trump and saying something untrue would make him become a Trump enemy, and there is no reason to do that given that he had to work with Trump..

    Common sense is totally against you. You on the other hand are looking at 1 in a hundred million chance that Trump is not a liar.
    Cohen was not a helpless slave of Donald Trump. He was a person with a choice about whether or not he told lies, whether they involved Trump or just his own income . Remember, five of the eight charges against Cohen were related to tax evasion, so we're not dealing with any sort of straight shooter corrupted by the Evil Donald. There's no "common sense" in trusting his word, though you can certainly do so if you wish.

    Ryan might be telling the truth or not, but my principal quarrel with the earlier post is that I don't think it's fair to term him one of Trump's people. At best they were political bedfellows, and in politics, stabbing a former ally in the back is par for the course.

    Look, I don't have a problem with the idea that Trump is, at the least, massively insensitive on racial matters. However, that's not quite the same as being a doctrinaire racist, and that's the only thing that should bear on his Presidential duties. I tend to think that his blanket denigration of Mexicans in his infamous campaign speech was not an intentional declaration of his racist beliefs about Mexicans, but resulted from an attempt to denigrate only illegals generally, bungled by his near legendary tin ear.

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