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Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist

KAG2020 said:
Economically they were socialists, just like Democrats

Their foreign policy is a whole other issue.




You left out that the Black Panthers and other racist organizations are Democrats, not Republicans
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How about the Nazi domestic policy; do away with Communists, socialists, gypsies, Jews, homosexuals?
 
OlNate said:
Mussolini got to power by promising the middle class to eliminate Italy's leftists, and perpetrated massive violence against Communists.
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Promising the middle class is a classic leftist move. Eliminating Italy's leftists doesn't prove political bent nor does perpetuating violence against Communists. For example, the white communists fought the red communists over control of Russia after the Tsar was overthrown.
 
GDViking said:
Well I've worked in a comedy club and bad comedians get old just as fast as people who think hey can sing on karaoke night...
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Uh, I can totally sing on karaoke night, thank you very much. Especially after 6 beers. ;)
 
TheGoverness said:
s o c a l i z m.
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Correct. I mean, so long as we're not going to use the word correctly or understand what the system actually calls for, but instead just use it as some buzz word of hate and throw it out there like some partisan grenade and not look back. Then yes, socialism.
 
snakestretcher said:
How about the Nazi domestic policy; do away with Communists, socialists, gypsies, Jews, homosexuals?
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Jews, for example, owned banking in Germany. The Jews weren't lefties, necessarily. The Jews were scapegoated because the Deutschmark was so greatly devalued because of the reparations Germany had to pay for WWI losses.

And the others were scapegoated because they weren't necessary nationalistic and Germany was fighting for its very identity at that time.
 
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KAG2020 said:
Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist

Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist - Glenn Beck

QUOTE: ".... Yes, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, for the simple reasons that they were staunchly anti-capitalist and believed that the means of production in their society should be controlled by a centralized state power. That is very clear from their writings, their words and their actions. Done and done....."

ME: I found this great post in another forum; moderators, I will provide a link if I am supposed to link to another forum:

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NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
or, "National Socialist German Workers' Party"

Funny, I don't see a lot of Germans in the Republican Party but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party.

In fact, not only do I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party, but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to be able to murder an entire class of people (abortion) just like Hitler did, and who violently attack people in the streets who disagree with them, just like Hitler did. Plus, I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to teach junk science about the human race (transgenderism) just like Hitler did.

The next time you Democrats and Liberals yell "Nazi", just look in the mirror and you'll see the biggest Nazi of them all. Better yet, watch news video of the last couple of weeks regarding Kavanaugh. Democrat Party Fascism at its finest.
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Wrong, they were fascists and the manufactures were owned not by the state, but by the owners who owned them before the war. Some war production was eventually taken over by the government and run with slave labor. They used both concentration camp labor and that of prisoners of war. This happened only after most of the privately owned mnufactoring plants were put out f condition by the bombing.
 
Ikari said:
The Nazi party was more a militaristic fascist system in practice. But the ones who carry the Nazi flags now and shout out the racist BS and run people over with cars tend not to be from the Democrat Party, but rather the Republicans.
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I would consider the Nazis unique- neither left nor right, and had aspects of both fascism and socialism, but never really both. Nazi members always corrected the media when they were labeled as fascist, claiming that they were not. In summary- they were a blood cult, totally devoted to racism and extreme nationalism, and used government to achieve that end in any way possible.
 
KAG2020 said:
Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist

Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist - Glenn Beck

QUOTE: ".... Yes, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, for the simple reasons that they were staunchly anti-capitalist and believed that the means of production in their society should be controlled by a centralized state power. That is very clear from their writings, their words and their actions. Done and done....."

ME: I found this great post in another forum; moderators, I will provide a link if I am supposed to link to another forum:

. QUOTE:

NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
or, "National Socialist German Workers' Party"

Funny, I don't see a lot of Germans in the Republican Party but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party.

In fact, not only do I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party, but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to be able to murder an entire class of people (abortion) just like Hitler did, and who violently attack people in the streets who disagree with them, just like Hitler did. Plus, I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to teach junk science about the human race (transgenderism) just like Hitler did.

The next time you Democrats and Liberals yell "Nazi", just look in the mirror and you'll see the biggest Nazi of them all. Better yet, watch news video of the last couple of weeks regarding Kavanaugh. Democrat Party Fascism at its finest.
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Hitler actively attempted to exterminate all Germans socialists, so your claim is flat out foolish.
 
PoS said:
I would consider the Nazis unique- neither left nor right, and had aspects of both fascism and socialism, but never really both. Nazi members always corrected the media when they were labeled as fascist, claiming that they were not. In summary- they were a blood cult, totally devoted to racism and extreme nationalism, and used government to achieve that end in any way possible.
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Very astute. Too bad pollicization has so muddied the waters that the truth is never wanted. Just ideology.
 
Ikari said:
The Nazi party was more a militaristic fascist system in practice. But the ones who carry the Nazi flags now and shout out the racist BS and run people over with cars tend not to be from the Democrat Party, but rather the Republicans.
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You are mistaken. Republicans are not socialists, Democrats are.

The American NAZI Party began as the "World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists" (WUFENS) in 1959 by Democrat George Lincoln Rockwell. He renamed it to the "American NAZI Party" in 1960, and was killed in 1967. In 1974 the organization was renamed to the "National Socialist American Workers Freedom Movement" by Democrats Robert Brannen and Cliff Herrington.

Today the "National Socialist Movement" (a.k.a. Neo-NAZIs) have their headquarters based in Detroit, Michigan, where it continues to be staffed by Democrats.
 
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OlNate said:
Uh, I can totally sing on karaoke night, thank you very much. Especially after 6 beers. ;)
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Yeah but it will take me 15 and some shots for you to sound good...

A couple rules I have,

If I'm drunk enough to sing, I am too drunk to sing,

If I'm drunk to dance, I'm too drunk to dance,

I consider these self Imposed rules to be a public service...
 
cabse5 said:
Jews, for example, owned banking in Germany. The Jews weren't lefties, necessarily. The Jews were scapegoated because the Deutschmark was so greatly devalued because of the reparations Germany had to pay for WWI losses.

And the others were scapegoated because they weren't necessary nationalistic and Germany was fighting for its very identity at that time.
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No, Germany was fighting for global domination and lebensraum at the time, and those scapegoats were, in Nazi terminology, considered untermenschen. Hitler even had his eyes on the US, and in view of how hopelessly weak and unprepared America was militarily at the outset of the war, it was fortunate that Hitler didn't take advantage of the fact.
 
cabse5 said:
Jews, for example, owned banking in Germany. The Jews weren't lefties, necessarily. The Jews were scapegoated because the Deutschmark was so greatly devalued because of the reparations Germany had to pay for WWI losses.

And the others were scapegoated because they weren't necessary nationalistic and Germany was fighting for its very identity at that time.
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Hence the push towards nationalism that trump and people like the OP are promoting day and night.
 
Glitch said:
You are mistaken. Republicans are not socialists, Democrats are.

The American NAZI Party began as the "World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists" (WUFENS) in 1959 by Democrat George Lincoln Rockwell. He renamed it to the "American NAZI Party" in 1960, and was killed in 1967. In 1974 the organization was renamed to the "National Socialist American Workers Freedom Movement" by Democrats Robert Brannen and Cliff Herrington.

Today the "National Socialist Movement" (a.k.a. Neo-NAZIs) have their headquarters based in Detroit, Michigan, where it continues to be staffed by Democrats.
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Please, please find me one nazi that voted for Hillary!!!!
 
KAG2020 said:
Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist

Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist - Glenn Beck

QUOTE: ".... Yes, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, for the simple reasons that they were staunchly anti-capitalist and believed that the means of production in their society should be controlled by a centralized state power. That is very clear from their writings, their words and their actions. Done and done....."

ME: I found this great post in another forum; moderators, I will provide a link if I am supposed to link to another forum:

. QUOTE:

NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
or, "National Socialist German Workers' Party"

Funny, I don't see a lot of Germans in the Republican Party but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party.

In fact, not only do I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party, but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to be able to murder an entire class of people (abortion) just like Hitler did, and who violently attack people in the streets who disagree with them, just like Hitler did. Plus, I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to teach junk science about the human race (transgenderism) just like Hitler did.

The next time you Democrats and Liberals yell "Nazi", just look in the mirror and you'll see the biggest Nazi of them all. Better yet, watch news video of the last couple of weeks regarding Kavanaugh. Democrat Party Fascism at its finest.
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What you have never seen is a president who stirs hatred between groups of people...until this president. Socialism and all the comparisons the folks from the right try to insist would happen in america are bullcrap. First off when you look at 'socialism' the right uses to insist it's horrible, all have one thing in common. The socialism in those countries have all been run by vicious dictators, like trump would love to become. Basically none of them were socialists, they used the socialist word to achieve their goals of becoming the all powerful dictator of the country. Tell the masses it's for their benefit, actually do a few things the masses like and then boom, lower the hammer and take over.
 
Glitch said:
You are mistaken. Republicans are not socialists, Democrats are.

The American NAZI Party began as the "World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists" (WUFENS) in 1959 by Democrat George Lincoln Rockwell. He renamed it to the American NAZI Party in 1960, and was killed in 1967. In 1974 the organization was renamed to the "National Socialist American Workers Freedom Movement" by Democrats Robert Brannen and Cliff Herrington.

Today the "National Socialist Movement" (a.k.a. Neo-NAZIs) have their headquarters based in Detroit, Michigan, where it continues to be staffed by Democrats.
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Not sure how much it's staffed by Democrats. It was a racist, white supremacist organization which is not quite in line with the modern Democratic party. Neo-Nazism still falls under right-wing extremism.

Neo-Nazism consists of post-World War II militant social or political movements seeking to revive and implement the ideology of Nazism. Neo-Nazis seek to employ their ideology to promote hatred and attack minorities, or in some cases to create a fascist political state.[1][2] It is a global phenomenon, with organized representation in many countries and international networks. It borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, xenophobia, ableism, homophobia, anti-Romanyism, antisemitism, anti-communism and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is the incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of Adolf Hitler.
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Doesn't really talk about economic models of socialism there, just racism and violence. I know...I know...the word "socialist" is in there. But it rarely has to do with economic theories of socialism.

lol
 
Ikari said:
The Nazi party was more a militaristic fascist system in practice. But the ones who carry the Nazi flags now and shout out the racist BS and run people over with cars tend not to be from the Democrat Party, but rather the Republicans.
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But everyone knows that the Nazis are reviled for the brutal economic policies.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
But everyone knows that the Nazis are reviled for the brutal economic policies.
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They did have some pretty brutal economic policies. Massive debt spending to fuel militaristic funding and wars, strong entanglement of the State and Corporation, crushing labor unions, the use of slave labor, etc.
 
Ikari said:
They did have some pretty brutal economic policies. Massive debt spending to fuel militaristic funding and wars, strong entanglement of the State and Corporation, crushing labor unions, the use of slave labor, etc.
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Sounds a bit familiar doesn't it???
 
cabse5 said:
Don't ya know? Trump is a classic liberal. Not the progressive, radical, bent that is now democratic. Democrats hate classic liberals.
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Nice side step... ;) :lol:
 
GDViking said:
Yeah but it will take me 15 and some shots for you to sound good...

A couple rules I have,

If I'm drunk enough to sing, I am too drunk to sing,

If I'm drunk to dance, I'm too drunk to dance,

I consider these self Imposed rules to be a public service...
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:lamo Must be nice to have it all figured out.
 
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