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I think I've figured it out.

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For decades I have tried to understand the conservative point of view but it escapes me. Now I'm wondering where is the conservative point of view? Has it been replaced by the party of trump? A cult of personality? Where is the GOP I knew twenty or thirty years ago?

I'm starting to think the old movie, the invasion of the body snatchers is real and targeting the GOP. For what ultimate purpose I don't know but I know for a fact it's happening. I get my 'facts' from the same place the R's get theirs, from god, my god.

Is it possible? The party of lincoln died long ago and the party of reagan is lost on some shining hill somewhere. Are the body snatchers here stealing the republican party?
 
Every party has factions, and it's clear who (unfortunately) came out on top in the GOP.

Buckley-style conservatives still exist, but they no longer have a voice among Republicans.
 
Every party has factions, and it's clear who (unfortunately) came out on top in the GOP.

Buckley-style conservatives still exist, but they no longer have a voice among Republicans.
Yep. And those conservatives in the media are often-enough now on CNN, or similar. They're definitely not on Fox, anymore.
 
For decades I have tried to understand the conservative point of view but it escapes me. Now I'm wondering where is the conservative point of view? Has it been replaced by the party of trump? A cult of personality? Where is the GOP I knew twenty or thirty years ago?

I'm starting to think the old movie, the invasion of the body snatchers is real and targeting the GOP. For what ultimate purpose I don't know but I know for a fact it's happening. I get my 'facts' from the same place the R's get theirs, from god, my god.

Is it possible? The party of lincoln died long ago and the party of reagan is lost on some shining hill somewhere. Are the body snatchers here stealing the republican party?

Well, first of all your mistake is thinking the GOP is necessarily conservative. Your second mistake is thinking the Elites of the GOP and the rank and file of the GOP believe the same thing. Based on those mistakes, I suspect you...like a lot of other people...believe what politicians "tell you", as opposed to "what they do".

Given those mistakes...and your revelation that you get "facts" from some god...it's not surprising that you are confused.

But believe me...you have NOT figured anything out.
 
For decades I have tried to understand the conservative point of view but it escapes me. Now I'm wondering where is the conservative point of view? Has it been replaced by the party of trump? A cult of personality? Where is the GOP I knew twenty or thirty years ago?

I'm starting to think the old movie, the invasion of the body snatchers is real and targeting the GOP. For what ultimate purpose I don't know but I know for a fact it's happening. I get my 'facts' from the same place the R's get theirs, from god, my god.

Is it possible? The party of lincoln died long ago and the party of reagan is lost on some shining hill somewhere. Are the body snatchers here stealing the republican party?

Why would you post this under "General Political Discussion"? Its nothing more than pure partisan ****.
 
For decades I have tried to understand the conservative point of view but it escapes me. Now I'm wondering where is the conservative point of view? Has it been replaced by the party of trump? A cult of personality? Where is the GOP I knew twenty or thirty years ago?

I'm starting to think the old movie, the invasion of the body snatchers is real and targeting the GOP. For what ultimate purpose I don't know but I know for a fact it's happening. I get my 'facts' from the same place the R's get theirs, from god, my god.

Is it possible? The party of lincoln died long ago and the party of reagan is lost on some shining hill somewhere. Are the body snatchers here stealing the republican party?

The party of Reagan wants limited government, abolition of uneccessary regulations and low taxes.

You always hated the party of Reagan. That's why you hate us, now.
 
The party of Reagan wants limited government, abolition of uneccessary regulations and low taxes.

You always hated the party of Reagan. That's why you hate us, now.

Question...Is increasing deficits.. "limited government"

How about banning bump stocks.. making people turn in their prior legal property or destroy it without compensation.. limited government

How about declaring a national emergency that doesn't exist in order to get around the constraints on the executive branch place on it by the constitution?

just curious about this "limited government" thing.
 
Question...Is increasing deficits.. "limited government"

How about banning bump stocks.. making people turn in their prior legal property or destroy it without compensation.. limited government

How about declaring a national emergency that doesn't exist in order to get around the constraints on the executive branch place on it by the constitution?

just curious about this "limited government" thing.

Nobody's 100%. That being said, is the deficit and the bumpstock ban all you have?

As far as declaring an emergency to build the wall, it's legal and I'm all for it. Securing the border is the government's job.
 
The party of Reagan wants limited government, abolition of uneccessary regulations and low taxes.

You always hated the party of Reagan. That's why you hate us, now.

I don't hate anyone but I don't like liver or chitterlings. Thanks for giving me the hatred I didn't know I owned. It's amazing the things you say apdst. I'm sure you've notice from other posters responses to some of the things you come out with.
 
For decades I have tried to understand the conservative point of view but it escapes me. Now I'm wondering where is the conservative point of view? Has it been replaced by the party of trump? A cult of personality? Where is the GOP I knew twenty or thirty years ago?

I'm starting to think the old movie, the invasion of the body snatchers is real and targeting the GOP. For what ultimate purpose I don't know but I know for a fact it's happening. I get my 'facts' from the same place the R's get theirs, from god, my god.

Is it possible? The party of lincoln died long ago and the party of reagan is lost on some shining hill somewhere. Are the body snatchers here stealing the republican party?

I don't believe for a New York minute that you embraced the party of Lincoln or Reagan. But as for conservatives the basic values then and now are pretty much the same:

1. The federal government should stay out of those things for which it has no constitutional authority

2. Federal judges at all levels should understand that the Constitution gives the central government its authority, and where the law is silent so should the courts be silent.'

3. The more the government does for the people, the less they are likely to do for themselves and they will become poorer. The less the government does for the people the more they are likely to do for themselves and they will prosper. The government should promote the general welfare, i.e. establish policy that encourages maximum liberty and prosperity and not get in the way of people doing for themselves, and the government should be otherwise concerned with the truly helpless among us.

4. The government should never interfere with or allow interference with the right of the people to form themselves into whatever societies they wish to be.
 
I don't hate anyone but I don't like liver or chitterlings. Thanks for giving me the hatred I didn't know I owned. It's amazing the things you say apdst. I'm sure you've notice from other posters responses to some of the things you come out with.

I absolutely noticed that you can't produce and argument. That's obvious with most Liberal posters.
 
For decades I have tried to understand the conservative point of view but it escapes me. Now I'm wondering where is the conservative point of view? Has it been replaced by the party of trump? A cult of personality? Where is the GOP I knew twenty or thirty years ago?

I'm starting to think the old movie, the invasion of the body snatchers is real and targeting the GOP. For what ultimate purpose I don't know but I know for a fact it's happening. I get my 'facts' from the same place the R's get theirs, from god, my god.

Is it possible? The party of lincoln died long ago and the party of reagan is lost on some shining hill somewhere. Are the body snatchers here stealing the republican party?

People who follow false gods tend to fall for the first false prophet who comes along. Pretty simple to understand, actually.
 
I don't believe for a New York minute that you embraced the party of Lincoln or Reagan. But as for conservatives the basic values then and now are pretty much the same:

1. The federal government should stay out of those things for which it has no constitutional authority

2. Federal judges at all levels should understand that the Constitution gives the central government its authority, and where the law is silent so should the courts be silent.'

3. The more the government does for the people, the less they are likely to do for themselves and they will become poorer. The less the government does for the people the more they are likely to do for themselves and they will prosper. The government should promote the general welfare, i.e. establish policy that encourages maximum liberty and prosperity and not get in the way of people doing for themselves, and the government should be otherwise concerned with the truly helpless among us.

4. The government should never interfere with or allow interference with the right of the people to form themselves into whatever societies they wish to be.

You don't believe I didn't support the party of lincoln or reagan? Was the clue in my first sentence? Nice words to describe what a conservative is, unfortunately they're only words. Have you noticed Neilson departed today? Yeah, she wouldn't follow trump's clearly illegal orders so she had to go. Maybe try checking out the special cnn is running on tricky dick and then tell me what conservatives believe behind closed doors and not in front of a television camera. The GOP has scammed its base for decades and somehow the base has still not caught on.
 
You don't believe I didn't support the party of lincoln or reagan? Was the clue in my first sentence? Nice words to describe what a conservative is, unfortunately they're only words. Have you noticed Neilson departed today? Yeah, she wouldn't follow trump's clearly illegal orders so she had to go. Maybe try checking out the special cnn is running on tricky dick and then tell me what conservatives believe behind closed doors and not in front of a television camera. The GOP has scammed its base for decades and somehow the base has still not caught on.

This is so non sequitur in response to my post and goes in so many directions it is impossible to respond to it.
 
The party of Reagan wants limited government, abolition of uneccessary regulations and low taxes.

You always hated the party of Reagan. That's why you hate us, now.

The Trump Republican Party has nothing to do with the Republican Party of 20 years ago.

THIS is a Cult of Personality
 
The Trump Republican Party has nothing to do with the Republican Party of 20 years ago.

THIS is a Cult of Personality

Keep dreaming.
 
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